Hunting scope with LR capabilities

[headshot5]

I'll second the Burris XTR II.  The tube is 34mm instead of 30.  But it has 110 MOA of internal adjustment, 50mm lens.  It is however FFP if that is a deal breaker.

If that won't do it for you, then a Leupold CDS VX-6 would work (also has 34mm tube).  Good luck.   

[coachcw]

ok little buddy , your a great hunter and i know you can get within 800 yards  ... how much moa are you shooting at that distance now ? I'm pretty sure you can get there without 20 moa .

[CAMPMEAT]

The very first time I ever shot long range, I shot a 308 Armalite with a $100 Opsrey Scope. So you really don't need to spend HUGE bucks on scopes IMO.

[jasnt]

I have the PST FFP 6-24 in mils.  Great scope and i have never had a problem but I have not been out in -20 with it either.  Bummer about the deer, it would be interesting to hear what Vortex has to say about it.  If you can pass that on.

Most definitely.  I played with it some more and upon closer inspection, you do get a little reticle rotation when you get to each end of the power ring.

On the plus side, my Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x with a Kenton Industries MOA turret on it worked fine.  105gr Berger VLD out of my .243, right in the heart at 500 yards. Was a one shot dirt nap on the next buck, who was even bigger

see now the vortex did you a favor

[carpsniperg2]

Will a 20 MOA rail be too tall on a sporter stock?  Also, I've only played with one cds model and the original dial on it that was MOA didn't have a zero stop.  The yardage turret he eventually got did though.  Are they all like this?  I had a custom turret systems tape on my Vortex and they just aren't accurate enough for my liking.  Pressure and temp swings really play with bullet drop

I run several on plain sporter style stocks. A rail with built in moa is angled downward in the front. Allowing you to get more vertical adjustment once zeroed. You just have to use a little shorter rings to make up for the rail.

If you are shooting a fairly flat loading. You will have no problem with the leupold I listed getting to around 800 yards without a 20 moa rail. So it just depends on how far you want to walk it out. If I am going to be running a rifle at over 600 usually I put a 20 moa rail on it. If most of my shots are going to be under 600. I will just run a 0 moa rail.

That leupold has 113 moa and comes in at 17oz. A very light scope with a lot of adjustment even without the rail.

The yardage dials on the new cds do have a zero stop. I just had 3 of them built and have 3 more to order

For sure pressure, elevation and temp are big factors. That's why some people prefer to use just a moa dial over a yardage dial. My G7 takes in my turret information and reads those factors for accurate shoot to ranges.

[Karl Blanchard]

Will a 20 MOA rail be too tall on a sporter stock?  Also, I've only played with one cds model and the original dial on it that was MOA didn't have a zero stop.  The yardage turret he eventually got did though.  Are they all like this?  I had a custom turret systems tape on my Vortex and they just aren't accurate enough for my liking.  Pressure and temp swings really play with bullet drop

I run several on plain sporter style stocks. A rail with built in moa is angled downward in the front. Allowing you to get more vertical adjustment once zeroed. You just have to use a little shorter rings to make up for the rail.

If you are shooting a fairly flat loading. You will have no problem with the leupold I listed getting to around 800 yards without a 20 moa rail. So it just depends on how far you want to walk it out. If I am going to be running a rifle at over 600 usually I put a 20 moa rail on it. If most of my shots are going to be under 600. I will just run a 0 moa rail.

That leupold has 113 moa and comes in at 17oz. A very light scope with a lot of adjustment even without the rail.

The yardage dials on the new cds do have a zero stop. I just had 3 of them built and have 3 more to order

For sure pressure, elevation and temp are big factors. That's why some people prefer to use just a moa dial over a yardage dial. My G7 takes in my turret information and reads those factors for accurate shoot to ranges.

   

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm running the 190gr ABLR @ 2788fps so it is definitely not breaking any speed records but its where they wanted to be so thats where they stay.

[carpsniperg2]

Agree. Im not a speed demon. Whatever loads shoot best at any speed is what i run. My 300wsm is running a 180 accubond at 2800 so pretty close to yours but you have a higher bc with the lr. My dial on that one goes to 750.

Im running the 168 lr accubonds in my 7 stw. They are the same way. If i run them over 3k my groups open up.
 

[Karl Blanchard]

ok little buddy , your a great hunter and i know you can get within 800 yards  ... how much moa are you shooting at that distance now ? I'm pretty sure you can get there without 20 moa .

Mild temps 20 moa.  I could only get 16 out of that Zeiss last night.  Mounted pretty high too.  Only gets me to 7.  Get down to single digits and its less than that.  Probably won't ever need that much for killing animals but I like to have the skill and the option if ever needed

[Karl Blanchard]

I have the PST FFP 6-24 in mils.  Great scope and i have never had a problem but I have not been out in -20 with it either.  Bummer about the deer, it would be interesting to hear what Vortex has to say about it.  If you can pass that on.

Most definitely.  I played with it some more and upon closer inspection, you do get a little reticle rotation when you get to each end of the power ring.

On the plus side, my Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x with a Kenton Industries MOA turret on it worked fine.  105gr Berger VLD out of my .243, right in the heart at 500 yards. Was a one shot dirt nap on the next buck, who was even bigger

see now the vortex did you a favor

No kidding huh!

[yorketransport]

I can think of a couple of great scopes in your price range that have everything except a zero stop. I'm partial to MIL/MIL scopes but I have a few MOA scopes too. I'm a big fan of Leupolds and have them 3 to 1 over anything else. You can find a used NF with zero stop in that price range or a Gen I Vortex Razor. I'm not a fan of most Vortex scopes but the Razors are pretty hard to beat. Sightron SIII scopes are great but I wouldn't consider them tough. I still have 2 but I wouldn't put them on heavy caliber guns.

FWIW I don't have zero stops on any of my long range guns and I've never had an issue. The other option is to run the Burris Signature rings with the max inserts installed to shift your POI at 100 yards so that it's as high as possible. Then when you zero the scope at 100 you end up dialing down the elevation closer to the last revolution of the dial. It's not a true zero stop but at least you're not going to be off by a complete revolution. I used the Signature rings combined with a 40 MOA base to set up my 7 RUM with a 760 yard zero so that the Mk 4 scope could dial out to 2350 yards. No need for a zero stop, just spin the turret all the way to the bottom! It did hit about 13" high at 100 yards though!

Andrew

[crabcreekhunter]

BLRman had a viper pst fail on me this year too straight from the factory, they definitely lost me as a rifle scope customer.. Will be returning to Leupolds at the end of the year, I don't mind not having a true zero stop as long as I know where I'm at on my revolution.  Personally looking at the 6-18x50 vx6 cds

[chiefeng]

I have a huskemaw and love it my son shot his first deer ever at 430 yards perfect shot

[elkaholic123]

I just put a Nightforce SHV 5-20x56 on my 300 WM and haven't had much time to play with it but I think it's gonna be an awesome scope for $1171.00.  It has 80 Moa adjustment. I got the non-illuminated IHR reticle and has a zero-set dial. I just need to find some sturdy scope covers for it.

[scudmaster]

BLRman had a viper pst fail on me this year too straight from the factory, they definitely lost me as a rifle scope customer.. Will be returning to Leupolds at the end of the year, I don't mind not having a true zero stop as long as I know where I'm at on my revolution.  Personally looking at the 6-18x50 vx6 cds

Out of curiosity, how did it fail?