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Title: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 06, 2015, 07:01:46 PM
Couple buddies down at Sportco(archery dept) have been doing a little broadhead testing. Mainly testing sturdiness, deflection and penetration via shooting them from a 60lb compound into a sheet of 5/8" plywood at a 45* angle.
Interesting that some of them would not penetrate at all.
I took a few down today for them to shoot: Slick Trick Razor Trick, Viper Trick and Slick Trick Mag and a Trocar tipped Grave Digger. All Slick Tricks penetrated until the vanes caught in the plywood with "0" damage to anything plus they spin tested them afterward - perfect.  The Grave Digger did the same but with a slight wiggle on spin testing. Kind of gives a guy confidence in what he's using.
For the results of all of them that Sportco tested, I'll let you visit and ask the folks in the archery dept. I don't want to be the guy bad mouthing somebody's favorite broadhead.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 06, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: MLBowhunting on December 06, 2015, 08:34:58 PM
I plan on testing some heads after the ATA show.  I would like to video and show the results. 
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 07, 2015, 10:42:39 AM
I know we don't usually shoot plywood out hunting but the question came up a few times concerning some mech designs opening on raking shots etc especially if bone was contacted. Deflection off bone was also a concern and badly bent ferules was one of my concerns since a badly bent ferule could drastically change the direction of penetration. This actually happened to some of the broadheads they tested (that I wouldn't mention) plus a couple didn't even penetrate the 5/8" plywood.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 07, 2015, 12:21:33 PM
I plan on testing some heads after the ATA show.  I would like to video and show the results.

OH NO :yike:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 07, 2015, 12:41:51 PM
We should shoot cement blocks for no other reason than I like to see arrows just smashed into pieces.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 08, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
We should shoot cement blocks for no other reason than I like to see arrows just smashed into pieces.

I'm in as long as we're using your arrows and broadheads.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: Mxracer532 on December 09, 2015, 12:05:33 AM
Use Magnus Black Hornets and damage the head they will replace them for free. (one of the many reasons I am shooting them) I did shoot ST Standards prior and for the most part was happy with them.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 09, 2015, 12:17:10 AM
Would an honest person really send back a broadhead they destroyed on purpose?
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 09, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
Would an honest person really send back a broadhead they destroyed on purpose?

I'm w/ya Rad but I read about folks on Archery Talk doing it all the time with Magnus broadheads. Pitiful.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 09, 2015, 10:59:49 AM
Cheap advertising then, I guess :dunno:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 09, 2015, 11:00:36 AM
Correction:
The Grave Digger ferule "did not" bend as originally thought. I install tiny O-rings so indexing the broadhead is easy. Come to find out, the o-ring split making the head wobble at Sportco. When I got home and removed the broken o-ring, the head was perfect.
I'm going to resharpen it and use it again.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: PA BEN on December 09, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
Good video on broadhead test
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 09, 2015, 06:54:12 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: PA BEN on December 09, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
Ok you seem to be a know it all explain
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: Mxracer532 on December 09, 2015, 08:00:34 PM
Would an honest person really send back a broadhead they destroyed on purpose?

I myself heck no, but I would bet if you asked Magnus for a test head they would gladly send you one. :dunno:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 09, 2015, 08:22:48 PM
Would an honest person really send back a broadhead they destroyed on purpose?

I myself heck no, but I would bet if you asked Magnus for a test head they would gladly send you one. :dunno:

Pretty good chance of that.  They seem like very generous folks and take advantage of free advertising better than most.  They also used to supply some very nice eye candy at the ATA show :o
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: Mxracer532 on December 10, 2015, 12:12:00 AM
Would an honest person really send back a broadhead they destroyed on purpose?

I myself heck no, but I would bet if you asked Magnus for a test head they would gladly send you one. :dunno:

Pretty good chance of that.  They seem like very generous folks and take advantage of free advertising better than most.  They also used to supply some very nice eye candy at the ATA show :o

OH man, some queen bees with huge nice heads?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 10, 2015, 01:39:42 AM
OH man, some queen bees with huge nice heads?  :chuckle:

Let's put it this way.  All my single sales reps and half the married ones were MIA most of the show.  When I needed to find them I always checked the Magnus booth first.  That was usually where I found them.  You combine true beauty, intelligence and wonderful personality and the men were stung for sure.  Pretty smart guys over there at Magnus!
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 10, 2015, 08:21:37 AM
So politically correct :chuckle:

I want to see a Rage vs. concrete block.

In seriousness though, the broadhead test thing has never really made sense to me.  Not when they are shooting steel drums, cinder blocks and 2x4s  :dunno:
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: MLBowhunting on December 10, 2015, 06:25:30 PM
Shoulder bones. 
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: YJ Guide Service on December 10, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
I used the grim reapers and the blades all broke off hitting the ribs and only penetrated 9-10 inches at 22 yds from a hoyt set at 63lbs. Wont be buying them again
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 11, 2015, 08:30:06 AM
Shoulder bones.

That's the only test that makes any sense to me.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: PA BEN on December 11, 2015, 06:42:34 PM
I tried a mechanical broadhead this year. These flew like my field points, you can get practice heads also.  NAP Spitfire 3 blade 100gr.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/hunting/archery/broadheads-points/mechanical%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104237280/i/103986180/nap-spitfire-3-blade-mechanical-broadheads/743070.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fmechanical%2F_%2FN-1100029%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103986180
I took a meat doe last Saturday, 19yds, 65lb HOYT Factor 30. Went through the shoulder and a rib, clipped a rib on the off side and into the off leg, didn't poke through the hide on the off side. Good blood right away, blood started about 6' from the shot. She did go about 150yds. Not sure I would take a heavy quartering shot w/these. The head held together, one blade was slightly bent.   
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 11, 2015, 06:57:34 PM
Shoulder bones.

That's the only test that makes any sense to me.

That's what the plywood was supposed to represent.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: RadSav on December 11, 2015, 10:59:03 PM
I used the grim reapers and the blades all broke off hitting the ribs and only penetrated 9-10 inches at 22 yds from a hoyt set at 63lbs. Wont be buying them again

Wow!  I would send those off to Jay immediately.  His heads should not do that.  I've seen quite a few big critters taken with his heads.  Always good results! 

We use the same heat treater for our blades as Grim Reaper does on theirs.  Our first run of DelMastro HPV blades came in way too hard.  We sent them back to be redone and they stretched the living heck out of them.  So we threw them out.  Wonder if the blades you got were run about the same time.  Could have been new employees or something goofy like that...and QC just missed it.  Quick customer response is often the best feedback to catch things that sneak by accidentally.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: sakoshooter on December 12, 2015, 05:51:54 PM
I used the grim reapers and the blades all broke off hitting the ribs and only penetrated 9-10 inches at 22 yds from a hoyt set at 63lbs. Wont be buying them again

Wow!  I would send those off to Jay immediately.  His heads should not do that.  I've seen quite a few big critters taken with his heads.  Always good results! 

We use the same heat treater for our blades as Grim Reaper does on theirs.  Our first run of DelMastro HPV blades came in way too hard.  We sent them back to be redone and they stretched the living heck out of them.  So we threw them out.  Wonder if the blades you got were run about the same time.  Could have been new employees or something goofy like that...and QC just missed it.  Quick customer response is often the best feedback to catch things that sneak by accidentally.

Similar results as YJ Guide Service by the guys testing at Sportco with those heads. Bent blades if memory serves.
Title: Re: Broadhead Test
Post by: tgomez on December 17, 2015, 08:36:31 PM
We should shoot cement blocks for no other reason than I like to see arrows just smashed into pieces.
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