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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: TheHunt on December 22, 2015, 08:40:58 AM
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Did you see it?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=845234138929152&set=p.845234138929152&type=3&theater
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Cant see it
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I saw it.
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No
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Which Hunt-WA on fb there's 2 isn't there, hw & hw2?
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https://m.facebook.com/groups/752804368092230?view=permalink&id=1003755112997153
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So what is the problem ? Why can not we see it ..?
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Are you a facebook member of that group?
If not, it looks like that page is not public viewable.
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It's a closed group.
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This thread is now useless ...haha
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Either someone take a screen shot, or delete this dang thread :dunno: :chuckle:
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You're welcome.
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Nice, thanks for posting.
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cool fronts.
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Dang, that's a brute
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He's a great bull.
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pretty bull!
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That's the 3rd or 4th one posted on there the last few days. They've all been deleted except that one due to the onslaught of tribal bashing.
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Boy that's a dandy bull elk! Getem where you getem. :tup:
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Wonder which tribe and what area ? We can obviously tell its Wetside ...lmao
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nice, right next to the road. mike w
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nice, right next to the road. mike w
I can appreciate that ! Easy to load into the truck and bring him home to the garage ! hahaha
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I don't miss being banned from those pages one bit. Funny that I got one of them Indians in serious trouble last year.
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I don't miss being banned from those pages one bit. Funny that I got one of them Indians in serious trouble last year.
serious trouble and Indians don't go together, just saying. Unless your selling eagle and hawk parts. Or from what I heard, you eat some of plats pepperoni!
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I'd bet the farm that it was killed somewheres near greenwater, or the unit to the north :twocents:
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I had a very similar bull at about 20 yds last year during early archery in one of the Northern coastal units... I wonder???? He had two brow tines on the left side though. Heavier on the right just like this one. :bash: :bash: :bash:
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so the mucks get one elk per house hold ..... and as long as its not a yak that shoots 27 elk in a month , I really don't see a issue . nice bull !
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You guys should see Plats Bull :IBCOOL:
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No one knows the story on this bull for sure but we should get mad and blame someone for something we think it might be. Merry Christmas! (I should make a meme out of this).
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:yeah:
I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
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I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
I have an on-call tag which will allow me to shoot any elk during a 5-day period, which is causing damage to a specific lot of private property. Hopefully when i get called, I can post it up and cause lots of flaming to occur. I actually welcome that! :tup:
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I know this doesn't sound very PC..buuut tribal bulls don't really count no matter what the size do they :dunno:
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I know this doesn't sound very PC..buuut tribal bulls don't really count no matter what the size do they :dunno:
I'm betting most tribal members don't give a rip what you think.
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Lol! You are correct, sir! (Ed McMann voice). :chuckle:
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I know this doesn't sound very PC..buuut tribal bulls don't really count no matter what the size do they :dunno:
Opinions........
:chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
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Now if above bull was taken with a stick-bow then maybe :tup:
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I know this doesn't sound very PC..buuut tribal bulls don't really count no matter what the size do they :dunno:
Opinions........
:chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
He's already received two.
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That a great Bull!
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Now if above bull was taken with a stick-bow then maybe :tup:
I'm sure they are looking for your acceptance.
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That is a great bull.
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I would shoot that bull from the road. But I wouldn't take pics with the road in the background.. :chuckle:
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I would shoot that bull from the road. But I wouldn't take pics with the road in the background.. :chuckle:
After my watershed experience this year I would shoot this bull from the road every day of the week. Closer the better!!
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The bull probably wouldn't have been shot if it wasn't next to the road... Seems like most of the "Native Americans" I have met are die hard road hunters...
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So, you wouldn't have shot it because you're not an Indian? :chuckle: Right!
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I would certainly shoot that bull, I would also hope it got closer to the road, I could quarter it up, pack it 5 ft to the truck and then make up a big whopper of a story about how I killed it 6.9 miles from the pick up and had to pack it up hill both ways. And still be home by noon :tup:
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:tup:
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Don't get me wrong... Beautiful bull.....Buuut if I had a late season tag for the unit of my choice... No I wouldn't shoot that bull....
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I had a very similar bull at about 20 yds last year during early archery in one of the Northern coastal units... I wonder???? He had two brow tines on the left side though. Heavier on the right just like this one. :bash: :bash: :bash:
Not a coastal bull. A lot of pictures of Mt Rayonier on his fb page. My guess is cascades Rosie.
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing the whole point to this post besides, that the natives can shoot what ever they want
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I don't think there was a point to the post other than to show a nice western Washington bull elk that was recently killed by a hunter.
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing the whole point to this post besides, that the natives can shoot what ever they want
Wrong!
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O.K So I am driving up a road ..It is gravel and owned by a private timber company or State or Federally owned . I have permission to be there . As I come around a corner there stands a monster 6X6 Bull ..I stop and check him out and say to myself ( What a nice bull but since your next to a country gravel road and I did not hike 6 miles today to see you , I am letting you live today ) Hahahaha YEAH RIGHT ! Looks to me it was a young lady who actually shot the bull ....
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing the whole point to this post besides, that the natives can shoot what ever they want
No one knows what the story really is here and you've got a problem with the natives? This is too good. :chuckle:
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:yeah:
I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
Why can't you?
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I'm pretty sure I'm missing the whole point to this post besides, that the natives can shoot what ever they want
No one knows what the story really is here and you've got a problem with the natives? This is too good. :chuckle:
Must be hard to drive around and shoot an elk this time of year. Sure are real sportsman.
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Must be just as hard to sit at a computer and judge people of whom you know nothing and of whose circumstances you know nothing. This thread has no intrinsic value at all except to create bad feelings on Christmas Eve. I'm out. Time for a birthday drink! :brew:
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how many guys drive up a road and just see a big buck or bull standing there and shoot it ......Plenty ! I get irritated every year when some guy that dosnt have a clue just happens along a giant ..... again congrats on a fine bull .
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Must be just as hard to sit at a computer and judge people of whom you know nothing and of whose circumstances you know nothing. This thread has no intrinsic value at all except to create bad feelings on Christmas Eve. I'm out. Time for a birthday drink! :brew:
I know there native and get to hunt when know one else can. That's how I judge. Everyone needs to follow same rules.
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Must be just as hard to sit at a computer and judge people of whom you know nothing and of whose circumstances you know nothing. This thread has no intrinsic value at all except to create bad feelings on Christmas Eve. I'm out. Time for a birthday drink! :brew:
Happy Birthday! :hello:
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I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
Why can't you?
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Uh, cause the season is closed and I already filled my tag with a cow. My season ended the first week of December and I was only allowed to shoot a cow or true spike.
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Happy bday Pman. :tup:
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Must be just as hard to sit at a computer and judge people of whom you know nothing and of whose circumstances you know nothing. This thread has no intrinsic value at all except to create bad feelings on Christmas Eve. I'm out. Time for a birthday drink! :brew:
That's why a guy needs a break from here once in awhile ...To much ignorance ..That bull could have been killed in a clear cut or wherever and pulled to the road ..Wonder how many of us have not hunted Western Washington ...most of my friends carry block and tackle to yard game out ! Just crazy how some just look for every detail to derail a thread ...
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Happy BD Pman ....
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I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
Why can't you?
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Uh, cause the season is closed and I already filled my tag with a cow. My season ended the first week of December and I was only allowed to shoot a cow or true spike.
Closed cause your not native. Sounds fair.
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How many people out there get animals that don't post em online because how some people are so quick to judge? I know I don't post mine
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:yeah:
I am just assuming it is on the up and up until I hear something otherwise.
If I could shoot a bull this time of year next a road I would do it in a heartbeat, especially that one.
Why can't you?
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Uh, cause the season is closed and I already filled my tag with a cow. My season ended the first week of December and I was only allowed to shoot a cow or true spike.
Closed cause your not native. Sounds fair.
Wait a second...if life is supposed to be fair, I have a lot of complaining to catch up on. For now I'd rather just wish everyone a merry Christmas.
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
I too am glad more natives don't post on here. There are a few people on here that will always keep it that way. It's unfortunate (kinda) but reality. I will say we all hunt for different reasons, the biggest being close to nature (not how many inches). I also find no fault in celebrating the harvest of a mature animal, regardless of season.
I would also like to wish all a safe and happy holiday season.
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Also wish all a Merry Christmas !
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
Nailed it :tup: That Plat guy though, he's sketchy :chuckle:
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I could really derail this thing bad if I wanted too! :chuckle: I could post a pic of our good buddy Louis with two bulls from this last week. We should start a running tally :peep:
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
Nailed it :tup: That Plat guy though, he's sketchy :chuckle:
:chuckle: I sure hope to meet him someday, just no fire sticks!!
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I could really derail this thing bad if I wanted too! :chuckle: I could post a pic of our good buddy Louis with two bulls from this last week. We should start a running tally :peep:
louis at it again? That's exactly the type of guy that is the reason for the hatered. Someone needs to break his knee caps!
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I could really derail this thing bad if I wanted too! :chuckle: I could post a pic of our good buddy Louis with two bulls from this last week. We should start a running tally :peep:
louis at it again? That's exactly the type of guy that is the reason for the hatered. Someone needs to break his knee caps!
Agreed again :chuckle:
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So. The natives have their own seasons out here?
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So. The natives have their own seasons out here?
I believe that's common knowledge. Yes.
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
Nailed it :tup: That Plat guy though, he's sketchy Totally Awesome and my idol :chuckle:
There, fixed it for ya. :tup:
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Common knowledge for someone who has lived and hunted here for ages sure. Not someone who's new to hunting out here.
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Yes natives have different seasons with more opportunity. Of course youth and seniors have different seasons with more opportunity. disabled hunters, master hunters, raffle winners, auction winners, lots of others with special privileges. Not to mention they divide the state for elk, west side hunters can shoot big Bulls, eastside hunters are limited to spikes.. So what if natives get special privelages it is their right. And yes their are those that abuse it but there are also a ton of non natives poaching and abusing the system as well.
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Thank you, that's a much better answer. If you can find them on the east side in 130/124 you can take any elk. Which is pretty neat. But I guess your options are limited seeing as they are very very elusive around those parts. I'll see how this year goes on the east side then venture out west
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Can anyone explain how the nez perce can hunt umatilla?
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Can anyone explain how the nez perce can hunt umatilla?
Their ceded area was established prior to the drawing of state lines.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/tribal/treaty_history.html
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So, a little while ago, there were pictures of dead wolves, shot by native hunters and every one was happy, happy!
Shoot more!!!
Non-natives can't shoot wolves, no one complained about same rules for everybody then!!
Funny how attitudes can change.....
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Nice bull :tup:
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I've never met plat, but after some Private messages with him I do respect his beliefs on tribal hunting. If the tribes had the respect that plat has for the animals and their hunting rights the hunting world would be a better place. I know he understands the frustrations non natives feel about tribal hunting, he's been trying to get the attitudes of the elders changed for a while. So, I hope he doesn't take this the wrong way, I also have no interest in looking at any game taken by the normal tribal hunts. Call me what you will but tribal hunting rights are just wrong. Anyone of us could kill big Bulls, deer or whatever if we had the right to hunt like the tribes. That is why some on here just don't care about tribal kills, me included. Now plat hunts a way that I can truley respect considering what he could be doing, having the rights like he does and not exploiting them, very respectful. That's my two cents!
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So, a little while ago, there were pictures of dead wolves, shot by native hunters and every one was happy, happy!
Shoot more!!!
Non-natives can't shoot wolves, no one complained about same rules for everybody then!!
Funny how attitudes can change.....
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Yeah I'm still waiting for the free hugs, though they might change to free hug monsters if I dropped a bull in the snow... :dunno: :chuckle:
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Can anyone explain how the nez perce can hunt umatilla?
Cause they are native.
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Can someone help me out. I am on the hunting-Washington forum Facebook page but can't find the group you are speaking about. Thank you in advance.
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It's called Hunting Washington State. Here's a link but I don't know if it will actually get you there:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/752804368092230?ref=bookmarks
If not, just do a search on Facebook.
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It's called Hunting Washington State. Here's a link but I don't know if it will actually get you there:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/752804368092230?ref=bookmarks
If not, just do a search on Facebook.
Thank you Bobcat, found it!!
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So, a little while ago, there were pictures of dead wolves, shot by native hunters and every one was happy, happy!
Shoot more!!!
Non-natives can't shoot wolves, no one complained about same rules for everybody then!!
Funny how attitudes can change.....
Really good point. :tup:
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So, a little while ago, there were pictures of dead wolves, shot by native hunters and every one was happy, happy!
Shoot more!!!
Non-natives can't shoot wolves, no one complained about same rules for everybody then!!
Funny how attitudes can change.....
Really good point. :tup:
not really a good point at all, it's a no brainier that wolves are not considered in the same respect level as elk or deer. If the natives slaughtered the wolves most of us would be very happy, deer and elk is whole different topic.
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Trophyhunt, we'll just be disagreeing on that. It seems very hypocritical to me, especially since we still really don't know the story behind that picture.
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Trophyhuny, we'll just be disagreeing on that. It seems very hypocritical to me, especially since we still really don't know the story behind that picture.
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Throughout human history concurred people have become enslaved and them typically disappear as a group. The native Americans in Washington the most entitled group of people in the world. Don't really know how this came to be and really not happy about it. Boldt desicion was currpt from the start and Washingtonians we're screwed. I don't understand how we allow these tribes to have defecto monopolies on industries such as gambling. It is a total joke if I was as privileged as these Washington native Americans I would be a billionaire. The fact that the tribes do things like gilnet downriver steelhead and sell fish for dirt cheap as opposed to having world class fishing and attracting money is crazy. They could guide elk hunts but instead sell elk as jerky.
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Plat heres an idea that could make you all the money in the world start a lotto. The states makes something like 87 cents on every dollar of the lottery. Drop that cut to 20% and why would anyone play the state lotto. Heck you could make it federal if you wanted
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Also hypothetically speaking could we start a bounty program for wolves in Washington via the tribes say 1500 a head if they prove from in state of wa 5,000 per collared wolf. The tribes can hunt anywhere id donate to that cause in heart beat.
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Also hypothetically speaking could we start a bounty program for wolves in Washington via the tribes say 1500 a head if they prove from in state of wa 5,000 per collared wolf. The tribes can hunt anywhere id donate to that cause in heart beat.
They have quotas. The number of wolves they can kill is relatively small compared to the population.
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Throughout human history concurred conquered people have become enslaved and them typically disappear as a group. The native Americans in Washington the most entitled group of people in the world. Don't really know how this came to be and really not happy about it. Boldt desicion was currpt corruptfrom the start and Washingtonians we're screwed. I don't understand how we allow these tribes to have defecto monopolies on industries such as gambling. It is a total joke if I was as privileged as these Washington native Americans I would be a billionaire. The fact that the tribes do things like gilnet downriver steelhead and sell fish for dirt cheap as opposed to having world class fishing and attracting money is crazy. They could guide elk hunts but instead sell elk as jerky.
Obviously, you don't understand, the state didn't allow or give us anything and neither did US v WA. St aka Boldt decision. It reaffirmed what we already did, what the state was trying to take away from us, keep from us, steal from us. We had it because of our Treaty with the US Govt, not the state.
Gambling is only allowed by the Tribes not individual members and we do have billionaires, you hear about them all the time selling their tobacco and petroleum products for cheap and the state keeps sticking it's nose in their business even though they have no jurisdiction. You talk lotto, isn't that gambling? Didn't you just b**** about a gambling monopoly and your suggestion is gambling?
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Also hypothetically speaking could we start a bounty program for wolves in Washington via the tribes say 1500 a head if they prove from in state of wa 5,000 per collared wolf. The tribes can hunt anywhere id donate to that cause in heart beat.
So, you want us to clean up your mess (wa state) but restrict our rights to practice our Treaty Rights as it pertains to fishing and hunting other game? :chuckle:
I'll wait til wolves are federally delisted in central wa. And then get me some nice new pelts and you can keep your bounty
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The lotto idea the tribes could really be making a lot off of it and it's fully within there rights. The boldt decision should be challenged and tossed away he was mentally incompetent. And the tribes take way more than 50% of the fish on a lot of rivers certain tribes have single handlly decimated runs of fish so that now only the tribes can fish for them it's ludicrous thank goodness the tribes can gilnet elk.
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I am thinking a new thread about gambling options for the tribe would be a better place for all of this talk. :tup: