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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: CoryTDF on December 22, 2015, 11:04:23 AM

Title: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: CoryTDF on December 22, 2015, 11:04:23 AM: I have an old 30-06 with a mauser action. The stock is cracked and needs replaced. I already have another 30-06, 270, and a 243. So, I was thinking about having a 6.5x284 built. It would be a gun for when my daughter gets a bit older. Also, it just seems like a fun gun to load for.

Anybody have one?

Any tips on Barrel and Stock?

Any leads on a good Eastern Washington Gun Smith?

Ready Go!
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: syoungs on December 22, 2015, 11:18:21 AM: No help on most, I hear there's a good gunsmith in kennewick, out in badger canyon, seems to come recommended quite often when I ask, I think ranch and home or hole in the wall could put you in touch with him
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: b23 on December 22, 2015, 11:23:46 AM: Potentially your biggest hurdle may be finding a gunsmith that'll build on your Mauser action. I'm not saying they are bad or anything like that but many only work on certain actions so it could possibly be to your benefit to either sell that rifle and find a more commonly worked on donor rifle for your build. Sometimes, it can actually be cheaper to find something else to build off of but if you're set on using that Mauser, I'm sure you'll find someone that'll build off of it.

There's a shop in Pendleton Or. (Blagg Rifles) that is supposed to do good work and wouldn't be to far from you, you'd have to ask if they'll build off of your Mauser though.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2015, 11:37:58 AM: Pac-Nor in Oregon will do it. They will also test your action for hardness and get back to you if there is a issue.

http://pac-nor.com/pricelist/
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 724wd on December 22, 2015, 11:47:06 AM: The 284 can be very tricky to get feeding right in a mauser. Why not just go 6.5-06? No feedrail work, don't have to open the bolt face, no rebated rim... or better yet, go 6.5x55 :tup: light recoil, shoots those LOOOOONG 6.5 bullets with ease (no issue with COAL - might be a problem with 6.5-06). How old is your daughter? My 8 year old is not impressed with magnum muzzle blast and recoil IS a big issue! :twocents:
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2015, 11:52:37 AM: You might check with Wayne York in Pendleton. He does good work.

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/About-Us---Services.html
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: sirmissalot on December 22, 2015, 12:32:41 PM: Quote from: Bob33 on December 22, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
You might check with Wayne York in Pendleton. He does good work.

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/About-Us---Services.html

I agree, Wayne has done great work for me in the past and has several of my rifles right now.

I had benchmark barrels re-barrel a 30-06 to a 6.5x284 when they had a group buy going on and absolutely love it. I had Wayne do the stock and finish work.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2015, 01:18:19 PM: Quote from: sirmissalot on December 22, 2015, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Bob33 on December 22, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
You might check with Wayne York in Pendleton. He does good work.

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/About-Us---Services.html

I agree, Wayne has done great work for me in the past and has several of my rifles right now.

I had benchmark barrels re-barrel a 30-06 to a 6.5x284 when they had a group buy going on and absolutely love it. I had Wayne do the stock and finish work.

Would you happen to have his contact info?
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 22, 2015, 01:28:47 PM: Cory, to be honest I wouldn't even we n mess with it.. find a donar 700 and get to it. If you do, simply go 6.5/06 AI... later
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Bob33 on December 22, 2015, 01:42:51 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2015, 01:18:19 PM
Quote from: sirmissalot on December 22, 2015, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: Bob33 on December 22, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
You might check with Wayne York in Pendleton. He does good work.

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/About-Us---Services.html

I agree, Wayne has done great work for me in the past and has several of my rifles right now.

I had benchmark barrels re-barrel a 30-06 to a 6.5x284 when they had a group buy going on and absolutely love it. I had Wayne do the stock and finish work.

Would you happen to have his contact info?
The number I have for him is 541-278-4177. He rebarreled a Weatherby for me about five years, and I was pleased with the job he did.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: high country on December 22, 2015, 06:30:39 PM: which mauser is it? are you attaced to that action? you have a stock purchase to look at and a truing, barreling and possibly feed rail work. By the time you get done, a 700 from walmart may be about par and parts can be found to finish the build this year, a mauser.....not so much. if you are looking for a nice walnut blued setup, I fully see your logic.

I have a soft spot for the 6.5's, and agree that a 260/284/06/x55 would be a good choice....but pay attention to mag length on your donor as you may be money ahead in a 260ai or 6.5x55ai just based on mag length as I dont know if you can get a wyatts box for yours and the action length my bust you on a 06 with 140's
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 22, 2015, 07:31:05 PM: The 6.5-.284 runs beautiful on a Remington 700 with the heavies and no modifications to the follower and box with a 06 donor.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: high country on December 22, 2015, 08:22:12 PM: if you choose the x284, look into the brass differences and choose your reamer accordingly.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: mountainman on December 22, 2015, 08:40:46 PM: I would opt for the 6.5/06. Slight edge in velocity, smoother feeding, brass availability.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: rbros on December 23, 2015, 04:58:17 AM: Definitely go 6.5-06 ai. Fire form loads are the same performance as the 6.5-284 and the full power exceed it by a fair margin.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 12Gauge on December 23, 2015, 07:20:43 PM: http://www.markskaggsgunsmithing.com/

I have had Mark replace three of my Mauser barrels. Very nice work, reasonable prices.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Bill W on December 23, 2015, 07:53:44 PM: a post further above alluded to the rebated rim of the .284. A heads up as the ejector of the 30-06 might not catch the smaller rim of the .284.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 12Gauge on December 24, 2015, 08:09:23 AM: FYI the 30.06 rim is .473. & 6.5x284 rim is .473

You can verify by looking at your reloading manuals
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: Bill W on December 24, 2015, 08:13:10 AM: Quote from: 12Gauge on December 24, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
FYI the 30.06 rim is .473. & 6.5x284 rim is .473

You can verify by looking at your reloading manuals

Oh... that's right. The .284 makes up for case capacity by having a larger diameter case than the -06. Good thing someone looks at the books.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 724wd on December 24, 2015, 09:33:43 AM: Quote from: Bill W on December 24, 2015, 08:13:10 AM
Quote from: 12Gauge on December 24, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
FYI the 30.06 rim is .473. & 6.5x284 rim is .473

You can verify by looking at your reloading manuals

Oh... that's right. The .284 makes up for case capacity by having a larger diameter case than the -06. Good thing someone looks at the books.

The issue with the rebated rim is the fat case has a tendency to jump around and not feed correctly, and the extractor can miss the rim in the shuffle. I'd wager there will need to be some feed rail work to get it to feed reliably. A non-magnum case would be a better option on a standard mauser, but with time and money, anything is possible!
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: 12Gauge on December 24, 2015, 09:40:30 AM: Yup, feed rail work maybe needed.

Cory, I have done 15 or so Mauser conversions and you will not get the money you invested out of it if you decide to sell. Your better off just replacing the stock and call it good. Boyd's gun stocks has Mauser 98 stock unfinished for $75.

For a build I would look at the Savage 110 action, or the Rem 700.
Title: Re: School me on turning a 30-06 into a 6.5X284
Post by: CoryTDF on December 24, 2015, 01:19:37 PM: Now I've got my eye on making this a 6.5 Gibbs . Looks like a pretty cool round and I can use the normal 06 brass to make it.