Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 26, 2015, 11:18:49 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 26, 2015, 11:29:23 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 26, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 26, 2015, 11:59:23 PM
The Mister Buddy heaters work very well, we had to limit it to only one of the two burners because it got too warm. :tup:
Thats exactly what I was going to try...the big buddy hooked to a 20lb tank....theres oone for sale locally on craigslist for $100 with the hose
Post by: loggerjim on December 27, 2015, 12:06:39 AM
Post by: Crunchy on December 27, 2015, 12:24:45 AM
Post by: bobcat on December 27, 2015, 01:32:55 AM
I used to use a propane heater years ago when I was camping in southeast Washington pheasant hunting, but I only used it in the morning to take the chill off a little bit before I got out of my sleeping bag in the morning to get dressed. I was afraid of leaving it run all night due to the chance of carbon monoxide poisoning, even though the heater supposedly had a sensor for that and would shut off. I just didn't trust it.
Post by: grundy53 on December 27, 2015, 05:51:50 AM
The Mister Buddy heaters work very well, we had to limit it to only one of the two burners because it got too warm. :tup::yeah:
I use a buddy heater. It works great.
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Post by: grundy53 on December 27, 2015, 05:55:01 AM
We almost always use the woodstove to heat the 16x18 full canvas wall tent. Last year cause of fire danger we tried the heater buddy for one or two nights. It works but uses those propane bottles at least two a night. And that is on low setting.I use a large propane tank with a hose. It will last several days.
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Post by: grundy53 on December 27, 2015, 05:58:34 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on December 27, 2015, 06:29:00 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 27, 2015, 08:45:53 AM
Post by: ipkus on December 27, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
Propane heaters do generate CO, so don't take this as an endorsement that you are perfectly safe running one no matter what.
Post by: skeeter 20i on December 27, 2015, 09:55:41 AM
Yes there is some associated moisture with propane but it isn't that bad. Everything is relative between wood/propane yes wood is a better kind of heat in my opinion but we are substituting propane for its ease and safety during a high fire danger time of year.
Post by: Mark Brenckle on December 27, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
We usually go with a big buddy heater for early deer season and a wood stove for late and elk camp. Our tent is a 12x14 and the big buddy works just fine, we run ours from the time we come back for the night to the next morning. We use one of those battery powered co2 monitors just to be safe also. To give u an idea for consumption rate we usually change out a 20# tank every 4-5 days depending.Just to be clear, you're monitoring CO or CO2? CO is what will kill you and is produced by burning propane.
Yes there is some associated moisture with propane but it isn't that bad. Everything is relative between wood/propane yes wood is a better kind of heat in my opinion but we are substituting propane for its ease and safety during a high fire danger time of year.
Post by: skeeter 20i on December 27, 2015, 10:07:25 AM
We usually go with a big buddy heater for early deer season and a wood stove for late and elk camp. Our tent is a 12x14 and the big buddy works just fine, we run ours from the time we come back for the night to the next morning. We use one of those battery powered co2 monitors just to be safe also. To give u an idea for consumption rate we usually change out a 20# tank every 4-5 days depending.Just to be clear, you're monitoring CO or CO2? CO is what will kill you and is produced by burning propane.
Yes there is some associated moisture with propane but it isn't that bad. Everything is relative between wood/propane yes wood is a better kind of heat in my opinion but we are substituting propane for its ease and safety during a high fire danger time of year.
nope i know what i mean, we're monitoring the bubbles in our drinks :chuckle:. Yes we're monitoring the stuff that could kill you thanks for that :tup: Never had a monitor chirp once and we run 2 to be safe.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 27, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 27, 2015, 10:53:12 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on December 27, 2015, 11:11:08 AM
One thing you should not do with either is seal your tent up tight. Leave a window unzipped a ways and have a little cross breeze all the time.
We never run the Buddy all night. If you have a good bag you don't need too. Just in the am and bedtime.
You can sleep comfortable all night long in a good bag regardless of the temps we get in this state with one little trick.
A $12.00 hot water bottle from any pharmacy. Before bed boil up a pan of water ,dump in the bottle, Wrap the bottle in clothing or pillow case and put it in the bottom of your bag before bed.
Stays warm all night.
reuse the same water each night. :tup:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 27, 2015, 11:19:51 AM
Post by: Hunting7mm on December 27, 2015, 11:27:19 AM
The Mister Buddy heaters work very well, we had to limit it to only one of the two burners because it got too warm. :tup:
:yeah:
Hunted Idaho in 7 degree weather and it kept our tent nice and warm.
Post by: bearpaw on December 27, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
kerosene space heater and a good ventilation, inexpensive, easy to haul in fuel, and capable of knocking back any winter temp.
I've got a whole shelf of old kerosene heaters I quit using. The wicks are a pain to maintain and kerosene is a pain to fill every night. I like wood stoves or propane heaters better, personal preference I guess.
We usually go with a big buddy heater for early deer season and a wood stove for late and elk camp. Our tent is a 12x14 and the big buddy works just fine, we run ours from the time we come back for the night to the next morning. We use one of those battery powered co2 monitors just to be safe also. To give u an idea for consumption rate we usually change out a 20# tank every 4-5 days depending.Just to be clear, you're monitoring CO or CO2? CO is what will kill you and is produced by burning propane.
Yes there is some associated moisture with propane but it isn't that bad. Everything is relative between wood/propane yes wood is a better kind of heat in my opinion but we are substituting propane for its ease and safety during a high fire danger time of year.
I won't say for certain but it seems propane fumes escape canvas better and aren't so much an issue as in a closed space. I've heard of numerous campers dieing from CO in a camper with closed windows. I would also be more cautious in a nylon tent that doesn't breath as well. Definitely a good idea to have a monitor. I think I remember reading that the propane heaters with the newer infrared burners are cleaner burning than the older style heaters without the infrared burners or the space heaters. I always recommend that you do not sleep with propane heaters burning, run them while you are awake and shut them off till you get up in the morning. :twocents:
Post by: Buzz2401 on December 27, 2015, 12:20:47 PM
Post by: jeepster on January 15, 2016, 06:34:51 PM
Honestly, a good heavy stove, a thermoelectric fan, and a wool blanket makes for the best nights sleep in the world, at least for me.
However, you could make a flue for a marine propane furnace like the Dickenson Newport, and make it externally vented so you wouldn't run into condensation issues would still need a chimney, but you would have dry heat
Post by: Larry S. on January 15, 2016, 07:30:40 PM
One way or another, though, it's always better to be warm. Propane heaters are convenient, but I prefer a wood stove for its dry heat...even if it means feeding the beast at night.
Larry S.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 15, 2016, 10:33:49 PM
Post by: 3dvapor on January 15, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
Post by: Jaques Bonet on January 16, 2016, 01:34:40 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 16, 2016, 06:55:58 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 16, 2016, 09:15:36 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 16, 2016, 01:24:29 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on January 16, 2016, 01:46:34 PM
I made this one and works awesome...
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 16, 2016, 02:21:06 PM
But isn't a propane stove in a camper vented to the outside?
This camper was so old it had a flap you manually opened when you needed it. :chuckle:
Post by: follow maggie on January 19, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 19, 2016, 11:10:48 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,170072.0.htmlCylinder stoves has an attachment similar to this that I got for my stove. It works great if it isn't too cold out. Unfortunately I use it during the late season and the temp outside never gets above 25degrees during the day and is about 8-10degrees at night. Mine just doesn't feed enough pellets in to keep it warm in the tent at night when it is that cold outside.
I made this one and works awesome...
Post by: bobcat on January 19, 2016, 11:15:53 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 19, 2016, 11:17:00 AM
Another advantage of a wood stove versus a propane heater is that you can cook on a wood stove.
You can cook a a Mr. HEATER.
Post by: scoyoc5 on January 19, 2016, 11:23:03 AM
Pellets also make a big difference. I learned a hard lesson in Montana a few years ago. I will only use "clean burn" brand pellets.
Post by: ghosthunter on January 19, 2016, 11:41:39 AM
Otherwise you run the risk of destroying the Buddy heater. They make a filter for it and you can buy them wherever to purchase the heater. :twocents:
Note:
Dot my words. But good info.
First of all, the filter is unnecessary if you're using the hose with attached regulator; the regulator will remove any contaminants in the propane (Apparently the Amazon package unnecessarily included both the hose attached regulator AND the filter...)
Beyond that, if you're using a hose that does NOT have an attached regulator you absolutely must use the filer! I've been using Mr. Buddy Heaters for years and can attest that if you use a hose and don't use the filter, you'll end up tearing down your heater, buying new internal parts, and rebuilding it (or just throwing it out and buying a new heater, if they're on sale...)
The filter removes oily contaminants that are present to a greater or lesser degree in the all 5 gallon propane tanks (the degree of contamination depends on your source of propane). Mostly the contamination is the oderant (mercaptin oil) they add to the propane. Over time (maybe 5 to 15 tanks, depending on how bad your propane is contaminated), the oil will build up and clog up the heater's internal parts, rendering some useless and requiring cleaning of everything else.
It's impossible, by law, to buy propane refills that are mercaptin free; therefore you will ALWAYS have contaminants in your refillable propane tanks.
You can also get contamination if you're using the older style black hoses. They contain a plasticizer that will bleed out of the hose if you turn off the heater before shutting off the tank valve; the pressure builds up in the hose and forces the plasticizer out of the hose material and into the void of the hose. When you re-start your heater, all that stuff gets sucked right into your heater, and it seems that it's even more damaging than the oil in the propane. Even worse, it's my experience that the filters do not do a very good job of filtering the plasticizer; perhaps because the higher pressure in the hose when you first turn on your heater blows it right past the filter.
That means that, even if you're using a filter, if you're using the older-style black hose, you still have to turn off the tank before turning off the heater. If I'm using a black hose, I usually turn off the tank and just let the heater go out by itself.
But nowadays I usually use the Plasticizer-free Green Hose that Enerco sells, so I don't have the plasticizer problem. The advantage of the Green Hose is that since I no longer have to turn off the tank and then allow the heater to just go out, I can now leave the tank outside my tent trailer and just turn the heater on and off without bothering with the tank.
Some sources say that, with the Green Hose, you don't need to use the filter. I still use the filter though, due to the problems with contamination from propane mentioned above. It's still necessary to use the filter because your propane is still going to contain contaminants that will need to be filtered.
I have 3 heaters - I date my filters (using indelible markers) when I put them on a heater and change them out after a year. I've had no problems at all since I started this system.
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2016, 11:44:03 AM
Growing up we had an old 8' truck camper which did not have a heater. The Old Man would start one stove top burner. Propane. And place a small to medium clay pot over the burner. It acted as a heat exchanger and I don't remember any condensation issues? Don't see why you couldn't do this with the Mr. Heater in a wall tent?
:yeah:
done it for years, especially back before I had 2K honda generator
my bumper mount RV and also the cabover camper both have clay pots in them right now
Post by: Rainier10 on January 19, 2016, 01:16:33 PM
Rainier,I didn't think of that, PM sent for more information.
Pellets also make a big difference. I learned a hard lesson in Montana a few years ago. I will only use "clean burn" brand pellets.
Post by: Buzz2401 on January 19, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
Post by: follow maggie on January 19, 2016, 07:40:22 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 19, 2016, 09:13:08 PM
Hmm I didn't know that about Mr. Buddy heaters and bulk tanks. I have never used nothing but bulk tanks on mine and never had a issue and it is almost ten years old. Great now its gonna go tits up since I seen this.We've never had a problem either.
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 12, 2022, 03:12:14 PM
One thing to remember with the Buddy heaters is , If you run them on a balk tank you have to install a filter at tanks and hose.
Otherwise you run the risk of destroying the Buddy heater. They make a filter for it and you can buy them wherever to purchase the heater. :twocents:
Note:
Dot my words. But good info.
First of all, the filter is unnecessary if you're using the hose with attached regulator; the regulator will remove any contaminants in the propane (Apparently the Amazon package unnecessarily included both the hose attached regulator AND the filter...)
Beyond that, if you're using a hose that does NOT have an attached regulator you absolutely must use the filer! I've been using Mr. Buddy Heaters for years and can attest that if you use a hose and don't use the filter, you'll end up tearing down your heater, buying new internal parts, and rebuilding it (or just throwing it out and buying a new heater, if they're on sale...)
The filter removes oily contaminants that are present to a greater or lesser degree in the all 5 gallon propane tanks (the degree of contamination depends on your source of propane). Mostly the contamination is the oderant (mercaptin oil) they add to the propane. Over time (maybe 5 to 15 tanks, depending on how bad your propane is contaminated), the oil will build up and clog up the heater's internal parts, rendering some useless and requiring cleaning of everything else.
It's impossible, by law, to buy propane refills that are mercaptin free; therefore you will ALWAYS have contaminants in your refillable propane tanks.
You can also get contamination if you're using the older style black hoses. They contain a plasticizer that will bleed out of the hose if you turn off the heater before shutting off the tank valve; the pressure builds up in the hose and forces the plasticizer out of the hose material and into the void of the hose. When you re-start your heater, all that stuff gets sucked right into your heater, and it seems that it's even more damaging than the oil in the propane. Even worse, it's my experience that the filters do not do a very good job of filtering the plasticizer; perhaps because the higher pressure in the hose when you first turn on your heater blows it right past the filter.
That means that, even if you're using a filter, if you're using the older-style black hose, you still have to turn off the tank before turning off the heater. If I'm using a black hose, I usually turn off the tank and just let the heater go out by itself.
But nowadays I usually use the Plasticizer-free Green Hose that Enerco sells, so I don't have the plasticizer problem. The advantage of the Green Hose is that since I no longer have to turn off the tank and then allow the heater to just go out, I can now leave the tank outside my tent trailer and just turn the heater on and off without bothering with the tank.
Some sources say that, with the Green Hose, you don't need to use the filter. I still use the filter though, due to the problems with contamination from propane mentioned above. It's still necessary to use the filter because your propane is still going to contain contaminants that will need to be filtered.
I have 3 heaters - I date my filters (using indelible markers) when I put them on a heater and change them out after a year. I've had no problems at all since I started this system.
Thanks again Ghost!!! Dug this up from 2016. Forgot about the Green Hose Deal....... :chuckle: