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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2016, 01:24:29 PM »
Been doin some research on these pellet stoves and they look like they would be good....I'm gonna look some some square tubing and try to make one and see how it goes
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2016, 01:46:34 PM »
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016, 02:21:06 PM »
But isn't a propane stove in a camper vented to the outside?


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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2016, 11:01:08 AM »
I have a portable buddy heater I use in my camper and love it. I got a hose to connect a 30 pound bulk tank that lasts forevver, it seems. I haven't used in my wall tent, but will probably try it this year. I'm not sure if moisture would be concern in a tent, propane heat tends to have a good amount of moisture in it.

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2016, 11:10:48 AM »
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,170072.0.html

I made this one and works awesome...
Cylinder stoves has an attachment similar to this that I got for my stove.  It works great if it isn't too cold out.  Unfortunately I use it during the late season and the temp outside never gets above 25degrees during the day and is about 8-10degrees at night. Mine just doesn't feed enough pellets in to keep it warm in the tent at night when it is that cold outside.
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2016, 11:15:53 AM »
Another advantage of a wood stove versus a propane heater is that you can cook on a wood stove.

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2016, 11:17:00 AM »
Another advantage of a wood stove versus a propane heater is that you can cook on a wood stove.


You can cook a a Mr. HEATER.
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2016, 11:23:03 AM »
Rainier,
Pellets also make a big difference. I learned a hard lesson in Montana a few years ago. I will only use "clean burn" brand pellets.
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2016, 11:41:39 AM »
One thing to remember with the Buddy heaters is , If you run them on a balk tank you have to install a filter at tanks and hose.
Otherwise you run the risk of destroying the Buddy heater. They make a filter for it and you can buy them wherever to purchase the heater.  :twocents:


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First of all, the filter is unnecessary if you're using the hose with attached regulator; the regulator will remove any contaminants in the propane (Apparently the Amazon package unnecessarily included both the hose attached regulator AND the filter...)

Beyond that, if you're using a hose that does NOT have an attached regulator you absolutely must use the filer! I've been using Mr. Buddy Heaters for years and can attest that if you use a hose and don't use the filter, you'll end up tearing down your heater, buying new internal parts, and rebuilding it (or just throwing it out and buying a new heater, if they're on sale...)

The filter removes oily contaminants that are present to a greater or lesser degree in the all 5 gallon propane tanks (the degree of contamination depends on your source of propane). Mostly the contamination is the oderant (mercaptin oil) they add to the propane. Over time (maybe 5 to 15 tanks, depending on how bad your propane is contaminated), the oil will build up and clog up the heater's internal parts, rendering some useless and requiring cleaning of everything else.

It's impossible, by law, to buy propane refills that are mercaptin free; therefore you will ALWAYS have contaminants in your refillable propane tanks.

You can also get contamination if you're using the older style black hoses. They contain a plasticizer that will bleed out of the hose if you turn off the heater before shutting off the tank valve; the pressure builds up in the hose and forces the plasticizer out of the hose material and into the void of the hose. When you re-start your heater, all that stuff gets sucked right into your heater, and it seems that it's even more damaging than the oil in the propane. Even worse, it's my experience that the filters do not do a very good job of filtering the plasticizer; perhaps because the higher pressure in the hose when you first turn on your heater blows it right past the filter.

That means that, even if you're using a filter, if you're using the older-style black hose, you still have to turn off the tank before turning off the heater. If I'm using a black hose, I usually turn off the tank and just let the heater go out by itself.

But nowadays I usually use the Plasticizer-free Green Hose that Enerco sells, so I don't have the plasticizer problem. The advantage of the Green Hose is that since I no longer have to turn off the tank and then allow the heater to just go out, I can now leave the tank outside my tent trailer and just turn the heater on and off without bothering with the tank.

Some sources say that, with the Green Hose, you don't need to use the filter. I still use the filter though, due to the problems with contamination from propane mentioned above. It's still necessary to use the filter because your propane is still going to contain contaminants that will need to be filtered.

I have 3 heaters - I date my filters (using indelible markers) when I put them on a heater and change them out after a year. I've had no problems at all since I started this system.

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2016, 11:44:03 AM »
Growing up we had an old 8' truck camper which did not have a heater. The Old Man would start one stove top burner. Propane. And place a small to medium clay pot over the burner. It acted as a heat exchanger and I don't remember any condensation issues? Don't see why you couldn't do this with the Mr. Heater in a wall tent?

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2016, 01:16:33 PM »
Rainier,
Pellets also make a big difference. I learned a hard lesson in Montana a few years ago. I will only use "clean burn" brand pellets.
I didn't think of that, PM sent for more information.
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2016, 06:52:26 PM »
Hmm I didn't know that about Mr. Buddy heaters and bulk tanks.  I have never used nothing but bulk tanks on mine and never had a issue and it is almost ten years old.    Great now its gonna go tits up since I seen this.

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2016, 07:40:22 PM »
I asked them about filter or regulator being necessary with a 10' hose, and they told me no, it's not necessary. Doens't hurt, though, I guess.

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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2016, 09:13:08 PM »
Hmm I didn't know that about Mr. Buddy heaters and bulk tanks.  I have never used nothing but bulk tanks on mine and never had a issue and it is almost ten years old.    Great now its gonna go tits up since I seen this.
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Re: Wall tent heat source
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2022, 03:12:14 PM »
One thing to remember with the Buddy heaters is , If you run them on a balk tank you have to install a filter at tanks and hose.
Otherwise you run the risk of destroying the Buddy heater. They make a filter for it and you can buy them wherever to purchase the heater.  :twocents:


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Dot my words. But good info.





First of all, the filter is unnecessary if you're using the hose with attached regulator; the regulator will remove any contaminants in the propane (Apparently the Amazon package unnecessarily included both the hose attached regulator AND the filter...)

Beyond that, if you're using a hose that does NOT have an attached regulator you absolutely must use the filer! I've been using Mr. Buddy Heaters for years and can attest that if you use a hose and don't use the filter, you'll end up tearing down your heater, buying new internal parts, and rebuilding it (or just throwing it out and buying a new heater, if they're on sale...)

The filter removes oily contaminants that are present to a greater or lesser degree in the all 5 gallon propane tanks (the degree of contamination depends on your source of propane). Mostly the contamination is the oderant (mercaptin oil) they add to the propane. Over time (maybe 5 to 15 tanks, depending on how bad your propane is contaminated), the oil will build up and clog up the heater's internal parts, rendering some useless and requiring cleaning of everything else.

It's impossible, by law, to buy propane refills that are mercaptin free; therefore you will ALWAYS have contaminants in your refillable propane tanks.

You can also get contamination if you're using the older style black hoses. They contain a plasticizer that will bleed out of the hose if you turn off the heater before shutting off the tank valve; the pressure builds up in the hose and forces the plasticizer out of the hose material and into the void of the hose. When you re-start your heater, all that stuff gets sucked right into your heater, and it seems that it's even more damaging than the oil in the propane. Even worse, it's my experience that the filters do not do a very good job of filtering the plasticizer; perhaps because the higher pressure in the hose when you first turn on your heater blows it right past the filter.

That means that, even if you're using a filter, if you're using the older-style black hose, you still have to turn off the tank before turning off the heater. If I'm using a black hose, I usually turn off the tank and just let the heater go out by itself.

But nowadays I usually use the Plasticizer-free Green Hose that Enerco sells, so I don't have the plasticizer problem. The advantage of the Green Hose is that since I no longer have to turn off the tank and then allow the heater to just go out, I can now leave the tank outside my tent trailer and just turn the heater on and off without bothering with the tank.

Some sources say that, with the Green Hose, you don't need to use the filter. I still use the filter though, due to the problems with contamination from propane mentioned above. It's still necessary to use the filter because your propane is still going to contain contaminants that will need to be filtered.

I have 3 heaters - I date my filters (using indelible markers) when I put them on a heater and change them out after a year. I've had no problems at all since I started this system.


Thanks again Ghost!!! Dug this up from 2016. Forgot about the Green Hose Deal....... :chuckle:
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