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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: JimmyHoffa on December 31, 2015, 06:58:32 PM

Title: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 31, 2015, 06:58:32 PM: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/12/31/washington-state-top-court-some-knives-are-likely-constitutionally-protected-arms-but-paring-knives-arent/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/12/31/washington-state-top-court-some-knives-are-likely-constitutionally-protected-arms-but-paring-knives-arent/)
Says that some small fixed blades are tools not arms, and can be regulated without second amendment protection. Case of City of Seattle vs Evans.
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 31, 2015, 07:08:18 PM: Interprets, you can't interpret the 2 A....period.
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 31, 2015, 07:10:22 PM: Actually the shorter slashing designs are very effective fighters.
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 31, 2015, 07:11:35 PM: Quote from: jay.sharkbait on December 31, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
Actually the shorter slashing designs are very effective fighters.

21 feet rule......
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: csaaphill on December 31, 2015, 11:43:34 PM: :rolleyes:
Oh for goodness sakes OMFG.
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: syoungs on January 01, 2016, 12:03:06 AM: I had no idea there was even an ordinance saying you couldn't have a "dangerous" fixed blade

Assanine
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 01, 2016, 01:41:49 AM: Funny stuff. Almost as twisted as the NFL trying to define what a "catch" is. The more they try to define it, the farther from reality it is.

One of the definitions of an "arm" is......... A weapon, especially a firearm: A weapon. pretty simple.

Take that further, people have fought pitched battles with whatever they have at hand for a weapon. Rocks, clubs, chain, knives, pitchforks, boiling oil, machetes, guns, baseball bats, slings, arrows, bombs,....... basically anything that you can use to harm another person who is trying to harm you. That is the whole point of the 2nd Amendment, that a citizen may arm themselves to defend themselves. For that to mean anything, you need to be able to use whatever is at hand to defend yourself and it isn't up to the government to define what you use as a weapon to defend yourself. Anything you use to defend yourself is a weapon, even knowledge such as a martial art. Your hands and feet and knees and elbows are weapons and as such, arms.

Don't believe it? Use anything listed above in a fight or an attack and see what you get charged with. Assault with a dangerous weapon. Go after a cop with a parring knife and see what the charge is if you survive. pretty sure you will be charged with assault with a dangerous weapon. Which is the same as arms according to the definition in the dictionary.

I don't think the founding fathers intended for their words to be parsed. They were pretty straight forward in their thinking. If you read their comments during the process of writing the constitution you can see that.

The court is reading way too much into the writings of our founders and are creating more confusion than is necessary. Maybe on purpose. Make things too confusing, then we need them to figure out what it all means, that which doesn't need figuring out.
Title: Re: Washington State Supreme Court Knife Ruling
Post by: timberfaller on January 06, 2016, 10:38:53 PM: Yep, our "educational" system has FAILED us miserably!! Educated past their intelligence, Life's tough, even tougher when your stupid, Stupid is as stupid does, dumber then a fence post, dumber then a box of rocks, etc etc!!

All kind of phrases for the likes of people in high places WHO shouldn't be there!!