Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 25, 2016, 04:20:48 AM
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QuoteALS Defense Unveils Special Anti-Drone Shotgun Rounds at the SHOT Show
Leading the good fight against our cyborg overlords this year was ALS defense (Amtech Less-Lethal Systems), with their Skynet anti-drone rounds for 12ga. shotguns and 37mm/40mm launchers. All kidding aside, this is quite a capable antidrone round. It works by spreading apart a bolo than can entangle the rotor blades as it ascends toward the drone. The rounds for the 12ga 3 1/2? Magnum can ascend 300ft, and achieve a 9 ft diameter, while the 2 3/4? rounds can achieve a 5ft diameter. Once they reach the apex of their ascent, the parachute down slowly enough to be caught in one's hand. The rounds are also non-toxic. For drones with shrouded blades, steel shot can be inserted into cavities between the pieces of the round.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/21/shot-2016-als-technologies-drones-beware/
H/T http://ace.mu.nu/archives/361188.php
Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2016, 06:23:18 PM
Post by: predatorpro on January 25, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
Post by: Firedogg on January 25, 2016, 06:36:32 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 25, 2016, 06:37:01 PM
Why do you all hate rc hobbyist so much? Qaudcopters are a toy...I don't see everyone hysterical about rc cars with a gopro or an rc boat with a gopro on it...
Because rc boats and cars can't fly onto my property and take video of my family. :mgun:
Post by: predatorpro on January 25, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
There is much more discreet ways to spy on ordinary civilians...rc airplanes have done fpv flying for a few years now and nobody cares...Why do you all hate rc hobbyist so much? Qaudcopters are a toy...I don't see everyone hysterical about rc cars with a gopro or an rc boat with a gopro on it...
Because rc boats and cars can't fly onto my property and take video of my family. :mgun:
Post by: predatorpro on January 25, 2016, 06:46:42 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 25, 2016, 06:49:58 PM
Plus an electric rc car could probly sneak onto your property without being detected easier...I fly my Qaudcopters all over...it has no camera on it and if someone shot It i would be ticked off and press charges!over private property?
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 25, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
Plus an electric rc car could probly sneak onto your property without being detected easier...I fly my Qaudcopters all over...it has no camera on it and if someone shot It i would be ticked off and press charges!
I doubt a rc car would get on my property without my dogs alerting me. You would have a hard time pressing charges if your drone crash landed on my property, :twocents: :tup:
Post by: ghosthunter on January 25, 2016, 06:57:52 PM
Plus an electric rc car could probly sneak onto your property without being detected easier...I fly my Qaudcopters all over...it has no camera on it and if someone shot It i would be ticked off and press charges!over private property?
Which begs the question.
Do we own the air space over our property? Maybe a differnt thread?
Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2016, 07:03:58 PM
Post by: predatorpro on January 25, 2016, 07:06:39 PM
The difference is you caused property damage...a crime...I would be able to sue you for it...flying a qaudcopter over a property is not necessarily against the law...you could sue me...but for what? Any property damage to you would have been the direct result of you shooting it and it crashing on your property...it's honestly the same attitude that liberals have towards ar15s....Plus an electric rc car could probly sneak onto your property without being detected easier...I fly my Qaudcopters all over...it has no camera on it and if someone shot It i would be ticked off and press charges!
I doubt a rc car would get on my property without my dogs alerting me. You would have a hard time pressing charges if your drone crash landed on my property, :twocents: :tup:
Post by: kentrek on January 25, 2016, 07:21:53 PM
If you don't plan on spying on me then you shouldn't have to worry bout your drone getting shot down
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 25, 2016, 07:22:42 PM
The difference is you caused property damage...a crime...I would be able to sue you for it...flying a qaudcopter over a property is not necessarily against the law...you could sue me...but for what? Any property damage to you would have been the direct result of you shooting it and it crashing on your property...it's honestly the same attitude that liberals have towards ar15s....Plus an electric rc car could probly sneak onto your property without being detected easier...I fly my Qaudcopters all over...it has no camera on it and if someone shot It i would be ticked off and press charges!
I doubt a rc car would get on my property without my dogs alerting me. You would have a hard time pressing charges if your drone crash landed on my property, :twocents: :tup:
You would have a hard time suing me if your drone crash landed in my back yard. ;) Just don't fly it over private property and you'll be fine. :hello:
Post by: Becky on January 25, 2016, 07:37:19 PM
I have a right to privacy...and a drone out side my window is a direct invasion of thatHow can he spy with a camera-less "drone"? How will you guys tell the difference between ones flying around with or without cameras? They used to be fun toys until the camera attachments got involved lol.
If you don't plan on spying on me then you shouldn't have to worry bout your drone getting shot down
Post by: dreamunelk on January 25, 2016, 07:38:25 PM
To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with you hunting or other personal freedoms. While I think they would be fun their are to many creeps and others that will abuse them.
Post by: dreamunelk on January 25, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
I have a right to privacy...and a drone out side my window is a direct invasion of thatHow can he spy with a camera-less "drone"? How will you guys tell the difference between ones flying around with or without cameras? They used to be fun toys until the camera attachments got involved lol.
If you don't plan on spying on me then you shouldn't have to worry bout your drone getting shot down
The drone flying around with out cameras likely will not loiter over my house or me no matter where I am at!
Maybe that is how a law should read. A person who shoots a drone without a camera is responsible for replacement cost of said drone.
I'll take my changes on which drone I shoot!
Post by: follow maggie on January 25, 2016, 07:43:09 PM
Post by: Smossy on January 25, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 25, 2016, 08:35:07 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 25, 2016, 08:39:22 PM
Did anyone actually read the description?
Post by: Smossy on January 25, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
OMG! The hysterics. I just thought it was a neat and well-thought out development. But it's mostly just a novelty item, IMO.Bolos, I like the idea of Bolos for actual self defense.
Did anyone actually read the description?
Post by: kentrek on January 25, 2016, 09:41:02 PM
I have a right to privacy...and a drone out side my window is a direct invasion of thatHow can he spy with a camera-less "drone"? How will you guys tell the difference between ones flying around with or without cameras? They used to be fun toys until the camera attachments got involved lol.
If you don't plan on spying on me then you shouldn't have to worry bout your drone getting shot down
Why would a drone with out a camera be spying on me ? I could care less about people that use there drones with good intentions..it's kind of cool in some ways...but i believe there's a time and a place for them and my backyard is not one of them..I also feel my right to privacy is more important than "your" right to spy on me.
So the "property" that your using to spy on me is now just an accessory to the crime
I consider this a slippery slope with property rights...and don't see the angle on why someone should be able to fly a drone on my property..I don't pay property tax for other people to pester me...so I'm going to shoot it down
It's just my opinion but i think there is big portion of the population agrees with me so I can't be too far off
:hello:
Post by: runamuk on January 25, 2016, 10:29:18 PM
I will voyeur the heck out of you people on the boats in front of my house as do the other 100 plus houses on the hill behind me. :chuckle: :chuckle: Boaters are fair game we wanna see what you all are catching and oggle your boats. You have been warned. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I know a guy who is building and doing custom paint and flying drones, he gets some cool footage of the greater Monte area. The old cooling towers look cool beans from drone perspective.
Post by: Westside88 on January 25, 2016, 10:49:50 PM
I think drones are sort of the "new" binoculars/scopes/telescopes "oh my gawd someone is watching me" of today. Reality I can watch you in your yard with my hunting binos if I choose to, I don't. Believe it or not 99% of people out there do not even know you exist let alone have any desire to spy on you. Game cameras pose the same problem strangers taking pictures of me when I don't expect to be photographed its an incredibly violating thing to know is in the woods, where I used to go for peace and solace. Now I worry there is a stupid camera behind every tree. Heck a drone I can see and will know its there at least those I stand a chance of avoiding. Game cameras not so much photographed without my consent is bothersome.He's a heck of a good painter and artist isn't he. The pictures I've seen make it look like pretty interesting hobby, but mostly to take interesting pictures and get a Birdseye view of the land you can't normally see. I understand why people don't want them on their private property
I will voyeur the heck out of you people on the boats in front of my house as do the other 100 plus houses on the hill behind me. :chuckle: :chuckle: Boaters are fair game we wanna see what you all are catching and oggle your boats. You have been warned. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I know a guy who is building and doing custom paint and flying drones, he gets some cool footage of the greater Monte area. The old cooling towers look cool beans from drone perspective.
Post by: scoyoc5 on January 25, 2016, 11:27:33 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 26, 2016, 06:51:53 AM
Im not a droner, dronie or whatever you are called, so I don't know what reason there would be to fly a drone over other peoples property. Keep it in your yard, go to a park, go into the wilderness seems pretty simple. Hover over someone's property don't expect to get it back.
As for reporting it to LE. It could be used just as much against you. Officer X " Sir I got a report you shot down a drone" Yep, here you go. Take it back to the owner and I want to press charges for Harassment. The thing was flying all over my yard, scaring my kids and bothering my dog. It was also chasing deer and a bald eagle. :rolleyes:
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 26, 2016, 06:55:33 AM
Coming down slowly enough to be caught in one hand. That is interesting in itself.
I surmise that would gain favor with a jury if you found yourself in court.
Post by: Kittman on January 26, 2016, 08:47:08 AM
Post by: CP on January 26, 2016, 08:58:27 AM
Kind of curious, if someone fly's a drone over private property and the property owner shoots it down, how does the drone owner gain access or prove it is located on said property, or to retrieve the broken pieces without themselves breaking the law by trespassing?
They would be trespassing. Just throw the drone pieces in the wood chipper, or practice your 3S procedures.
Post by: WoodlandShooter on January 26, 2016, 09:36:47 AM
Post by: CP on January 26, 2016, 09:40:42 AM
I think a good old 3" mag bird hunting load would work just fine.
:yeah:
Some good old-fashion #2 lead shot
Post by: Ice Cap on January 26, 2016, 10:22:24 AM
If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
FAR Part 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
Post by: Becky on January 26, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
I have a right to privacy...and a drone out side my window is a direct invasion of thatHow can he spy with a camera-less "drone"? How will you guys tell the difference between ones flying around with or without cameras? They used to be fun toys until the camera attachments got involved lol.
If you don't plan on spying on me then you shouldn't have to worry bout your drone getting shot down
Why would a drone with out a camera be spying on me ? I could care less about people that use there drones with good intentions..it's kind of cool in some ways...but i believe there's a time and a place for them and my backyard is not one of them..I also feel my right to privacy is more important than "your" right to spy on me.
So the "property" that your using to spy on me is now just an accessory to the crime
I consider this a slippery slope with property rights...and don't see the angle on why someone should be able to fly a drone on my property..I don't pay property tax for other people to pester me...so I'm going to shoot it down
It's just my opinion but i think there is big portion of the population agrees with me so I can't be too far off
:hello:
You were responding to predatorpro right? Or at least it sounded like it and he was talking about flying his copter that doesn't have a camera.
Some of you guys live in neighborhoods like brought up, if people are so paranoid about all flying toys camera or not that's not good. What one person thinks is spying on them because of all the media hype where like a couple years ago people were genuinely interested in seeing the little toys flying around.
There just needs to be a little less paranoia the second someone sees a toy. Are they literally hovering 2 feet from your window (that's about the radius some of these cameras need to actually get a view of a person) or is it someone in your neighborhood flying straight up to get an aerial view. Some people start to flip out the second they see one just because that's what TV has told them to do, just curious if any of you have personally had one spying on you or had one show up at your 10 acre home? I'm not trying to argue anyone's opinion I'm genuinely asking. What based your opinion, something you seen on TV/read about or did you actually get spied on.
I'm in the middle, I don't even own one so I'm not being biased. If I see one outside my window literally then heck yea I'd be upset but if I see one flying over head heading down the road I'm not going to go grab a shotgun and chase it down. Google Earth sees my house just as close as most of these drones can. They don't zoom, if it's a gopro setup then you definitely aren't seeing people unless you're 20 feet in proximity to them.
They make fantastic aerial scenery videos, that's pretty much all.
Post by: Becky on January 26, 2016, 11:10:09 AM
If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
FAR Part 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
Pretty sure He didn't refer to them as one, he copied the guidelines for 1st degree malicious mischief.
"According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno: " is all he said. Which, there are lots of members who have brought that up as being so.
Post by: Bob33 on January 26, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
There are specific and unique requirements and guidelines pertaining to their use.
https://www.faa.gov/uas/faq/ (https://www.faa.gov/uas/faq/)
Post by: Ice Cap on January 26, 2016, 11:38:01 AM
If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
FAR Part 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
Pretty sure He didn't refer to them as one, he copied the guidelines for 1st degree malicious mischief.
"According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno: " is all he said. Which, there are lots of members who have brought that up as being so.
I posted that strictly for informational purposes but it was nice of you to respond for him!
Post by: Becky on January 26, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
I'm all about the notion that private property is private, just know what you're looking at in terms of drones. Camera/no camera/is it actually close to see your property etc.
The thought is just all over the map. On this thread we have majority saying do not video/take pictures of anything on my property then on here we have "that guy can't control what pictures are taken on his property!" ..
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,189782.0/all.html
Post by: Becky on January 26, 2016, 11:43:47 AM
I posted that strictly for informational purposes but it was nice of you to respond for him!Thanks for the information.
And yup anytime! :hello: I responded earlier for predatorpro too or did you miss that? I'm just a responding away.
Post by: runamuk on January 26, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
I think drones are sort of the "new" binoculars/scopes/telescopes "oh my gawd someone is watching me" of today. Reality I can watch you in your yard with my hunting binos if I choose to, I don't. Believe it or not 99% of people out there do not even know you exist let alone have any desire to spy on you. Game cameras pose the same problem strangers taking pictures of me when I don't expect to be photographed its an incredibly violating thing to know is in the woods, where I used to go for peace and solace. Now I worry there is a stupid camera behind every tree. Heck a drone I can see and will know its there at least those I stand a chance of avoiding. Game cameras not so much photographed without my consent is bothersome.He's a heck of a good painter and artist isn't he. The pictures I've seen make it look like pretty interesting hobby, but mostly to take interesting pictures and get a Birdseye view of the land you can't normally see. I understand why people don't want them on their private property
I will voyeur the heck out of you people on the boats in front of my house as do the other 100 plus houses on the hill behind me. :chuckle: :chuckle: Boaters are fair game we wanna see what you all are catching and oggle your boats. You have been warned. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I know a guy who is building and doing custom paint and flying drones, he gets some cool footage of the greater Monte area. The old cooling towers look cool beans from drone perspective.
He is also a really nice guy and a stellar custom body work guy. I would not hesitate to send someone to him. For drones or custom paint.
Post by: Bob33 on January 26, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
Several of the FAA guidelines for drones are contrary to these. For example, drones should not be flown above 400 feet.If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
FAR Part 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/
http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/for-recreational-users/
Post by: Ice Cap on January 26, 2016, 02:27:41 PM
Several of the FAA guidelines for drones are contrary to these. For example, drones should not be flown above 400 feet.If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!To many freedoms with drones and it will be a great way for people to mess with your hunting or other personal freedoms.Hmm kinda sounds to me like you contradicted yourself. So having the freedom, to fly a drone for whatever reason... May mess with your freedom?
So your saying I shouldn't have the freedom to have freedom?
Kinda lost me there.
So just to throw this out there, If one of you shoot's down a lets say for example DJI Phantom 3 with new cameras, gimbals, etc.. Your looking at $1800+ easy.
So at that point your possibly facing 1st degree destruction of property and or 1st degree malicious mischief. Whether or not you would be convicted of it is a different story. By why bother, cause there's a hovering toy in the neighborhood?
1st Degree Malicious Mischief.
1. Caused physical damage to someone else’s property where the damage was valued at more than $1,500,
2. Caused an interruption or impairment of public service by damaging or tampering with an emergency vehicle, property of the state, a public utility, public transportation, power, or communication, or
3. Caused an impairment of safety or efficiency of an aircraft by damaging or tampering with the equipment, fuel, lubricant, or parts.
According to the FAA a drone is an aircraft. :dunno:
FAR Part 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/
http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/for-recreational-users/
That would be why I prefaced the information with this
"If You are going to refer to a drone as an aircraft then the FAA has some rules about safe operation!"
Post by: predatorpro on January 26, 2016, 03:20:27 PM
Post by: EmeraldBullet on January 27, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
However, doing any action which inhibits the safe operation of an aircraft is a federal felony. Forget the debate about whether or not you would have to pay for the drone if you shot it down, you could go to prison and not be allowed to carry firearms for the rest of your life.
I am not saying this is the way it should be, but this is the way it is.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 28, 2016, 01:55:25 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/style/neighbors-drones-invade-privacy.html
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 29, 2016, 07:05:37 AM
So all rc hobbyist should have their freedom taken away because some people are scared of toys with cameras...just like how some people are scared of ar 15s...You never know how someone will react. I know a guy that brought over a new, $4,000.++ drone to show off. Launched it in the backyard and took it to something like 500 feet. Ran a loop around the neighborhood where you could barely see the thing. Later I had neighbors that I've known and gotten along with for years voice concerns.
If we'd been flying it at 90 feet and hovered over the neighbors house long enough, it would not surprise me to have it knocked out of the air.
If you are at 300 feet, it won't be in range. If it's looking in windows and hanging out for an extended amount of time at low altitude, it may get shot.
I don't have a stake in this either way. However, if I was on a jury, I'd be inclined to believe the guy that thought he had a reason to shoot one down, had lots of time to arm himself with a shotgun and the drone was in range (low elevation). In Texas, the drone operator was several blocks away hovering the drone over young girls sunbathing. It is no surprise that guy got off. pun intended
Post by: Bob33 on January 29, 2016, 02:13:48 PM
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/538487741193658368
Post by: Bob33 on April 20, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
Turns out that firing a gun into the air to shoot down your neighbor’s drone is illegal. In other news, water is wet.
The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed to Forbes that — despite what some well-armed citizens may think — trying to shoot down a drone is, in fact, a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
The FAA made the statement in response to questions by Forbes following an incident in which an Arkansas man thought his neighbor was flying a drone over his backyard to videotape his children. To stop what he saw as an invasion of his privacy, the man grabbed his rifle and shot the drone out of the sky.
But, according to the FAA, a drone is considered a civilian aircraft. And, under Title 18 of the U. S. Code, section 32, destroying one can get you up to 20 years in the slammer, as well as a hefty fine.
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Post by: MountainWalk on April 20, 2016, 01:27:20 PM
Post by: Crunchy on April 20, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
To those of you that think you are worth spying on lol.
Post by: DRobnsn on April 20, 2016, 03:10:17 PM
Hey Crunchy, ever give the sex offender map a look? No one is going to stop them from getting drone's. :bash: :bash: :bash:
I'm not completely against drones and I see they have some purpose. It would be a great toy for scouting or just getting the lay of the land but I still think they'll get into the wrong hands and get abused just like everything else that can be.
Post by: jdb on April 20, 2016, 06:20:00 PM