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Title: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Doublelunger on January 30, 2016, 07:22:35 AM
Yup I'm going to be that guy...saw it on social media...anyone have any info?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: The scout on January 30, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
That thing could be measured 10 times with a different score each time. that's a lot of bone!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 30, 2016, 09:12:07 AM
awesome buck, cant wait to see it at the show.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: link on January 30, 2016, 09:21:08 AM
I wonder if thats fairly recent, or from like the 40's? Looks awfully big.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Wahoo on January 30, 2016, 09:56:11 AM
I saw it at the show yesterday and heard one of the scorers talking about it. It is supposed to be the new state record by 7 inches but didn't see or hear if it was taken in 2015. Amazing animal.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: _TONY_ on January 30, 2016, 09:59:58 AM
Cool buck.  :tup:

Is that mount wearing a toupee??  :chuckle:



Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 30, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
I know there was one hit by a car  in Chewelah many years ago ...Wonder if that's it ! Something that big in Washington would have popped up on the internet before now !
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 30, 2016, 11:20:55 AM
That is hanging on the wall but I think it said 2013 for a date
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: stew pidasso on January 30, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
I saw it today while entering mine. I find it hard to believe its from eastern wash, but then again mine doesn't look like its from around here either. Second place will have to do.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: jackelope on January 30, 2016, 04:39:04 PM
When I first looked, I thought it was yours Josh.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: bearpaw on January 30, 2016, 04:58:23 PM
Looking forward to hearing more about that buck!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 30, 2016, 05:54:11 PM
I will try to get as many pics as I can tomorrow.  I saw some pretty good moose racks in the back behind the curtain.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: bowhunterforever on January 30, 2016, 06:57:03 PM
Looking forward to hearing more about that buck!
:yeah: What a beast
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 31, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
Pics

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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 31, 2016, 01:31:37 PM
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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 31, 2016, 01:32:45 PM
Last pics

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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: stew pidasso on January 31, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
Thanks for the picks Russ
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Eli346 on January 31, 2016, 06:15:50 PM
Stew,
 Your buck is even more impressive in person! Love the mount.

Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: longrangekiller on January 31, 2016, 06:36:16 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160201%2Fa8f520a6882f19cc45dfdd33a518ed8a.jpg&hash=547f8a2418ed977e61746e879bc7b63dfcf33045)

I'm still very curious how this top right buck is non typical


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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 31, 2016, 07:56:21 PM
Both the non typical white tails one was harvested in 2013 and the other was harvested in 2014.

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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: Harbor_hunter on January 31, 2016, 08:52:53 PM
Cool pictures and nice animals.   Looks like I was there at the wrong time.  I was up there around 3 on Saturday and there was maybe a dozen bucks on display?  Not nearly as many as I was used to seeing.  Glad it filled in!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246"???
Post by: floatinghat on January 31, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
Last pics

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I had a question while there.  The rack (blacktail) on the top left was typical and the right was non-typical.  I saw almost mirror images of each other, I couldn't see why one was typical and not the other? (post 15)


Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Doublelunger on February 02, 2016, 10:19:14 AM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 02, 2016, 10:22:42 AM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!

Are there answers or just a name to go with the buck? Anyone actually know Buddy Hughes?
Where has this buck been or his sheds been for the last __ years? The hunting community is a small world.
 :dunno:
Very strange.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Whitpirate on February 02, 2016, 10:27:27 AM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!

Are there answers or just a name to go with the buck? Anyone actually know Buddy Hughes?
Where has this buck been or his sheds been for the last __ years? The hunting community is a small world.
 :dunno:
Very strange.

I'm a jerk but I keep chanting in my head "DNA TEST DNA TEST" 

That looks like a farm raised deer.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 10:33:50 AM
Looks like that other non-typ WT was taking by the same guy.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Doublelunger on February 02, 2016, 10:36:02 AM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!

Are there answers or just a name to go with the buck? Anyone actually know Buddy Hughes?
Where has this buck been or his sheds been for the last __ years? The hunting community is a small world.
 :dunno:
Very strange.

I'm a jerk but I keep chanting in my head "DNA TEST DNA TEST" 

That looks like a farm raised deer.

Im with you guys, I would love to know more about this deer too, but I guess I don't find it as hard to believe as some of you that there might be a hunter out there who doesn't care about the spotlight.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: MtnMuley on February 02, 2016, 10:43:23 AM
There's way more hunters out there every year that kill big bucks and find big sheds in Washington that keep it to themselves and close friends than are ever posted on the internet.  By a loooooong margin. :twocents:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 10:51:04 AM
There's way more hunters out there every year that kill big bucks and find big sheds in Washington that keep it to themselves and close friends than are ever posted on the internet.  By a loooooong margin. :twocents:

I believe it... though it's rare to have a guy completely off the radar even when his name is out there like this one (assuming he is not using an alias). Either way, I'm glad he decided to share these amazing bucks with the rest of us.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Bango skank on February 02, 2016, 11:04:45 AM
Yup I'm going to be that guy...saw it on social media...anyone have any info?

I actually got my hands on this buck at the taxidermists.  Ill share a few pics i took.  Amazing animal.  Not my place to say anything about it though.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Bango skank on February 02, 2016, 11:08:03 AM
Oh wait, thats a different buck.  Lots of similarities though.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: buglin4bulls on February 02, 2016, 11:11:58 AM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person who told me, or how they know Buddy. But they do know him and This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: M_ray on February 02, 2016, 11:13:38 AM
"That buck is dead"  :chuckle: 

Sorry Mtnmuley I couldn't resist!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Skillet on February 02, 2016, 11:20:47 AM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person. This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.

 :yike:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview%2F1003140%2Fpeter-cant-eat-his-popcorn-o.gif&hash=d3eb8e8cffe79f5e02e47c4963f8f83c93902fd4)
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: M_ray on February 02, 2016, 11:22:49 AM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person who told me, or how they know Buddy. But they do know him and This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.

Well some field photo's and eye witness accounts should clear that right up  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 11:30:15 AM
The only odd characteristic I noticed on the other big buck he killed (not the state record) was the blunt tipped main beam. You will often see that on high fence bucks. That being said... it doesn't always mean high fence... and vice/versa.. some high fence deer don't have those blunt tips..it's just something that is more common in high fence than in the wild.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2016, 11:31:08 AM
I know the state book doesn't care they just want the $20 but doesn't B&C require DNA testing on world or state record entries?  Just a question, not flaming the hunter or the buck.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 02, 2016, 11:38:45 AM
There's way more hunters out there every year that kill big bucks and find big sheds in Washington that keep it to themselves and close friends than are ever posted on the internet.  By a loooooong margin. :twocents:

I agree but a whitetail like this in Asotin County has never been photographed or seen by anyone else? That is the part that is tough for me.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 11:40:38 AM
Here is a BC high fence operation.. a lot of big WT but I didn't see any that looked like those two...certainly some similar characteristics on few though.

http://www.silvertine.ca/
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 02, 2016, 11:40:47 AM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person who told me, or how they know Buddy. But they do know him and This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.

 :yike:
      :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 02, 2016, 11:42:40 AM
Oh boy here we go.  :chuckle: :yike:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Gringo31 on February 02, 2016, 11:47:15 AM
It's a small world.  No one kills a record animal without people knowing....


And they shouldn't!  If I killed a state record, I'd be bragging all my life.  Everything about the story minus the location....
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 02, 2016, 11:52:48 AM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!

Are there answers or just a name to go with the buck? Anyone actually know Buddy Hughes?
Where has this buck been or his sheds been for the last __ years? The hunting community is a small world.
 :dunno:
Very strange.

The hunting community isn't as small as you'd like to think. And not everyone takes trophies as serious as some do. Then there are those who don't want to bring attention to their little piece of paradise by announcing to the world all the great trophies they've taken and where. All it does is bring in more competition.

Take the area I fish in Alaska. There are 70 inch moose taken there pretty much every year. Sometimes 3 or 4.  Because of the regs there, it's mostly a local only hunt and it doesn't get much attention from outsiders which suits the locals just fine.

Then you have the old timers, like my dad's generation who were mostly meat hunters. Antlers were admired when someone got a big one, but they usually weren't saved as they just piled up and got in the way. The group my family hunted with over the years in the Quinault area probably took 100 or more bull elk in that time and the only one I can think of that anyone saved was the 7x7 my uncle took back in the 70s. My dad took over 20 bulls including some nice 6x6s and never saved a set of antlers. I know that is hard for some to wrap their brains around, but that's just how it was.

Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
I think what's throwing some people off is the fact that, except for farm deer, know one on earth is accustomed to seeing a deer like that.   They just don't pop up in the wild very often.  If it is wild, then we will surely see a follow up of some sort with B&C.  I'll withhold judgement till then.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)
finally solved the mystery folks!  Bone photographs all his big bucks on a high fence operation in BC


 :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 02, 2016, 01:38:26 PM
You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)
finally solved the mystery folks!  Bone photographs all his big bucks on a high fence operation in BC


 :chuckle:
Bone couldn't have taken that picture! It's all fuzzy and out of focus... Unless that's to hide the fence in the background!  :chuckle:
 :sry: bone
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Eli346 on February 02, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
Looks like that other non-typ WT was taking by the same guy.
Which other non-typical? I was there and picked up Josh Johnson's non-typical because he couldn't make it back on Sunday. It scored 191 6/8. It's legit and a heck of a buck but I didn't see another entry from the #1 guy.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Whitpirate on February 02, 2016, 01:52:02 PM
So we finally have some answers.  A new Washington state record! Non-typical whitetail, scored 246 2/8. Taken by Buddy Hughes in Asotin County, 2013.  I'm surprised this Buck remained under the radar for this long! Awesome deer! Congrats to the hunter!

Are there answers or just a name to go with the buck? Anyone actually know Buddy Hughes?
Where has this buck been or his sheds been for the last __ years? The hunting community is a small world.
 :dunno:
Very strange.

I'm a jerk but I keep chanting in my head "DNA TEST DNA TEST" 

That looks like a farm raised deer.

Im with you guys, I would love to know more about this deer too, but I guess I don't find it as hard to believe as some of you that there might be a hunter out there who doesn't care about the spotlight.

You mean one that enters into a Horns competition where the public is going to come for prize money and the like.... that kind of non-spotlight sort of guy.  Too many inconsistencies with this buck being from where they rumor it to be..... no sheds, no locals with any knowledge... doesn't add up.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: 2MANY on February 02, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
Perhaps a deer shot out of season would not surface for three years.
By then the evidence would be gone.


Congrats to the hunter.


Asotin holds some ranch land that very, very few ever see.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 01:54:31 PM
Looks like that other non-typ WT was taking by the same guy.
Which other non-typical? I was there and picked up Josh Johnson's non-typical because he couldn't make it back on Sunday. It scored 191 6/8. It's legit and a heck of a buck but I didn't see another entry from the #1 guy.

Go to Russ McDonald's photos on the first page and look at the fifth photo down from the top. You will see a heavy buck on the left side of the photo. If you zoom in on that you will see the name of the hunter listed on the second line up from the bottom.... It's not easy to see but it says "Buddy Hughes".
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 02, 2016, 01:55:21 PM
You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)

Thanks for posting that Bone.. What a monster! How many years ago was that?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: MtnMuley on February 02, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
"That buck is dead"  :chuckle: 

Sorry Mtnmuley I couldn't resist!

 :nono: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 02, 2016, 05:15:30 PM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person who told me, or how they know Buddy. But they do know him and This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.

You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)

Interesting counteracting posts.
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 02, 2016, 05:19:58 PM
Looks like that other non-typ WT was taking by the same guy.
Which other non-typical? I was there and picked up Josh Johnson's non-typical because he couldn't make it back on Sunday. It scored 191 6/8. It's legit and a heck of a buck but I didn't see another entry from the #1 guy.

Go to Russ McDonald's photos on the first page and look at the fifth photo down from the top. You will see a heavy buck on the left side of the photo. If you zoom in on that you will see the name of the hunter listed on the second line up from the bottom.... It's not easy to see but it says "Buddy Hughes".

Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: stew pidasso on February 02, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
I will not say who told me or how I know the person who told me, or how they know Buddy. But they do know him and This deer was killed in British Columbia and at a high fence hunt. This is sad to see it made our record book with no proof it was shot here. The guy must have taken a old tag and used it. That's all I'm going to say about it.

You need to come clean with info. Or get someone on here that's not afraid to tell the truth.  :twocents:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 02, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
I don't know any details but this buck would me much more believable if they said ferry county. Lots of unknowns there. Asotin just seems like someone would know of that buck. Not accusing or anything here as I know absolutely nothing about that buck or hunter.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on February 02, 2016, 07:47:23 PM
You just never know what is going to pop up.....

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fimage_zpskhado6n3.jpeg&hash=54e2ce66251cf72b729d99bc0201e0a6a36ad8a8)
finally solved the mystery folks!  Bone photographs all his big bucks on a high fence operation in BC


 :chuckle:

did you blur that for effect? lol  first blurry photo i've seen you post, adds to the mystery/intrigue.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: The scout on February 02, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
 :yeah:I would guess it was just a hail mary to try and get something, super stud buck!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: ipkus on February 02, 2016, 08:17:37 PM

You need to come clean with info. Or get someone on here that's not afraid to tell the truth.  :twocents:

Info like whether he actually had permission to be on the land he killed his buck on?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 03, 2016, 05:44:52 AM
:yeah:I would guess it was just a hail mary to try and get something, super stud buck!
Exactly what it was."...Holy mother of God, try to get a photo of that thing.  No one will believe me...."

They don't tend to get that big by standing around either :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 03, 2016, 09:38:44 AM
Here is a BC high fence operation.. a lot of big WT but I didn't see any that looked like those two...certainly some similar characteristics on few though.

http://www.silvertine.ca/

Yah, that place seems legit..... (snark)

555 inch Roosevelt?  http://www.silvertine.ca/500-bull-elk.html
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 03, 2016, 09:49:58 AM
And I love this line in their online brochure, concerning their trophy whitetail hunting.

"Now that said, some guys are going to want specific qualities in a Buck and these bucks need to be "Special Order" , by that I mean, Bucks that hunters want to harvest that have  drop tines, webbing, large 180+ typical's, extra wide, etc., etc., Bucks like this we can get, and prices for them fall into the same pricing schedule. "

So in other words, if you are willing to pay them, they will make sure you harvest the buck you pay for. In spite of their claim on their website that "this a REAL HUNT, and VERY Fair Chase! These deer live and die on this ranch, and are SUPER SPOOKY! Even though these deer are "Fenced In", all of our hunters say these deer are wild suckers and exactly like hunting any other whitetail deer anywhere else, just that we can control the hunting pressure and harvest to allow the deer to grow to maturity, supplement them with feed and manage the genetic base for trophy quality."

Mail order trophy bucks. What has the world of hunting come to?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 03, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
Oh man, it gets better! After reading their claim that "this a REAL HUNT, and VERY Fair Chase! I find this on their web site.

"You know you are a small personalized operation when the Outfitters dog is a member of the team. Well ask any Silvertine client and they will say "Heck Ya" Yogi is as instramental as Steve in the smooth operation of Silvertine. Yogi has many talents, and the biggest one is his nose. Yogi has alerted us while still hunting by smelling elk and deer that were bedded in the thick brush a short distance away that we never would have seen otherwise, and walked right by, so you could say he is a guide, and to his credit has guided to numerous elk and deer. Yogi's skills as a tracker would make a Masai warrior scratch his head in disbelief, he is damn good at it, and he has always found our "game" when he was put to the test."

How many record keeping organizations consider using dogs to hunt deer and elk to be fair chase?

http://www.silvertine.ca/meet-the-silvertineteam.html
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: PastorJoel on February 03, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Anyone else see bigfoot in the background of Bone's picture?    ;)
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: PastorJoel on February 03, 2016, 12:59:15 PM
Here is a BC high fence operation.. a lot of big WT but I didn't see any that looked like those two...certainly some similar characteristics on few though.

http://www.silvertine.ca/

Yah, that place seems legit..... (snark)

555 inch Roosevelt?  http://www.silvertine.ca/500-bull-elk.html


Anyone here bring their dog elk hunting with them?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on February 03, 2016, 01:05:45 PM
Peopel in eastern VA hunt with dogs all the time... and I'm sure other places.  Tradition and perfectly legal.  People here hunt cougars and bears.

 I thought it was cool that they have a well trained dog.  Very slick/sneaky.

I'm not seeing the problem?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 03, 2016, 01:07:55 PM
Seems pretty sporting, animal can't escape or hide.  I wonder if it's tranquilizer or tied down.  Perfectly legal in some states I'm sure.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: PastorJoel on February 03, 2016, 01:09:10 PM
Peopel in eastern VA hunt with dogs all the time... and I'm sure other places.  Tradition and perfectly legal.  People here hunt cougars and bears.

 I thought it was cool that they have a well trained dog.  Very slick/sneaky.

I'm not seeing the problem?  :dunno:

I wasn't trying to say it was a problem.  I was just surprised to see a dog there.  (could just be ignorance on my part)  I have a well behaved dog but couldn't imagine hunting with her.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 03, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
For the most part, it's illegal here in Washington.

Quote
While hunting enthusiasts in some states benefit from the use of hunting dogs to chase or retrieve game, hunters in Washington face strict regulations when hunting with dogs. Permitted uses for dog hunting are primarily when upland bird hunting, with a few species exceptions.

Other than that, hunters should keep their animals at home when taking game in order to avoid violating state hunting regulations
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on February 03, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
For the most part, it's illegal here in Washington.

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While hunting enthusiasts in some states benefit from the use of hunting dogs to chase or retrieve game, hunters in Washington face strict regulations when hunting with dogs. Permitted uses for dog hunting are primarily when upland bird hunting, with a few species exceptions.

Other than that, hunters should keep their animals at home when taking game in order to avoid violating state hunting regulations

I realize WA is very nanny state (more-so than most), but I'm not 100% this is illegal?  Can anyone confirm with certainty?  (I'm hoping this wouldn't be another vague law that can be interpreted by who ever is enforcing it at the time?)

Still kinda cool little dog. 
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Rainier10 on February 03, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Stud deer, thanks Russ for all the photos and thanks Bone for your photo.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Bango skank on February 03, 2016, 02:00:51 PM
For the most part, it's illegal here in Washington.

Quote
While hunting enthusiasts in some states benefit from the use of hunting dogs to chase or retrieve game, hunters in Washington face strict regulations when hunting with dogs. Permitted uses for dog hunting are primarily when upland bird hunting, with a few species exceptions.

Other than that, hunters should keep their animals at home when taking game in order to avoid violating state hunting regulations

I realize WA is very nanny state (more-so than most), but I'm not 100% this is illegal?  Can anyone confirm with certainty?  (I'm hoping this wouldn't be another vague law that can be interpreted by who ever is enforcing it at the time?)

Still kinda cool little dog.

Page 87 of the regs.  #10 second paragraph.  Crystal clear
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: kenbell27 on February 03, 2016, 02:01:23 PM
Using dogs:
• (WAC 232-12-242): Hunting wild animals (except rabbits and hares) with dogs (hounds) during the months of
October, or November during the dates established for modern firearm deer or elk general seasons in eastern and western Washington
• (RCW 77 15 240) : Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 03, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
Using dogs:
• (WAC 232-12-242): Hunting wild animals (except rabbits and hares) with dogs (hounds) during the months of
October, or November during the dates established for modern firearm deer or elk general seasons in eastern and western Washington
• (RCW 77 15 240) : Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited
Not sure what any of this has to do with a high fence operation in Canada.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: kenbell27 on February 03, 2016, 03:03:18 PM
obviously you did not read the question asked by 300UltraMagShooter above😜
Just clarifying for him.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 03, 2016, 03:23:26 PM
Using dogs:
• (WAC 232-12-242): Hunting wild animals (except rabbits and hares) with dogs (hounds) during the months of
October, or November during the dates established for modern firearm deer or elk general seasons in eastern and western Washington
• (RCW 77 15 240) : Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited
Not sure what any of this has to do with a high fence operation in Canada.  :chuckle:

We are talking about Yogi
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 03, 2016, 03:52:20 PM
Yogi is just the best......
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 03, 2016, 03:55:01 PM
Oh man, it gets better! After reading their claim that "this a REAL HUNT, and VERY Fair Chase! I find this on their web site.

"You know you are a small personalized operation when the Outfitters dog is a member of the team. Well ask any Silvertine client and they will say "Heck Ya" Yogi is as instramental as Steve in the smooth operation of Silvertine. Yogi has many talents, and the biggest one is his nose. Yogi has alerted us while still hunting by smelling elk and deer that were bedded in the thick brush a short distance away that we never would have seen otherwise, and walked right by, so you could say he is a guide, and to his credit has guided to numerous elk and deer. Yogi's skills as a tracker would make a Masai warrior scratch his head in disbelief, he is damn good at it, and he has always found our "game" when he was put to the test."

How many record keeping organizations consider using dogs to hunt deer and elk to be fair chase?

http://www.silvertine.ca/meet-the-silvertineteam.html

And it says they turn out the bulls/bucks onto the range in July/August.  I wonder if that is when they pull the ear tags out too  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 03, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
Using dogs:
• (WAC 232-12-242): Hunting wild animals (except rabbits and hares) with dogs (hounds) during the months of
October, or November during the dates established for modern firearm deer or elk general seasons in eastern and western Washington
• (RCW 77 15 240) : Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited
Not sure what any of this has to do with a high fence operation in Canada.  :chuckle:

We are talking about Yogi
i missed that part...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: stew pidasso on February 03, 2016, 06:26:59 PM
Using dogs:
• (WAC 232-12-242): Hunting wild animals (except rabbits and hares) with dogs (hounds) during the months of
October, or November during the dates established for modern firearm deer or elk general seasons in eastern and western Washington
• (RCW 77 15 240) : Allowing a dog, owned or controlled by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk or to accompany you while you are hunting deer or elk is prohibited
Not sure what any of this has to do with a high fence operation in Canada.  :chuckle:
I guess I thought we were talking about Buddy getting in the book as the new #1, when it seems as though he may have shot his buck in BC. Not to mention that it would mean he scammed out the horns competition of a rifle and best in show.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: boneaddict on February 03, 2016, 06:36:13 PM
People seem to do anything for money and notoriety.   Look at several of the tv show personalities that got nailed this year. 
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Watimberghost on February 03, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
I'm sure I missed it elsewhere, but Stew Pidasso, is there a pic of your great buck?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 03, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
I'm sure I missed it elsewhere, but Stew Pidasso, is there a pic of your great buck?
:yeah: I remember the pics but I want to see the mount!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: kodiak 907 on February 03, 2016, 07:16:10 PM
Smells like a farm raised deer to me. I have an excellent deer sniffer.. Farm raised whitetails and free range whitetails smell totalty different.... Western extreme!!!!!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 03, 2016, 07:25:35 PM
:)
That's a awesome mount!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Watimberghost on February 03, 2016, 07:31:13 PM
WOW!! Incredible! That is something 99.9% of whitetail hunters never even lay eyes on, let alone shoot! We'll done my friend :tup:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Maverick on February 03, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
That mount is awesome stew. I never saw that buck on the hoof, but had heard about him.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: kodiak 907 on February 03, 2016, 08:34:42 PM
WOW!! Incredible! That is something 99.9% of whitetail hunters never even lay eyes on, let alone shoot! We'll done my friend :tup:

 :yeah: that deer is a TOAD!!
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: coachcw on February 03, 2016, 08:39:11 PM
Great buck I hope it's legit
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: greenhead_killer on February 03, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
Hey stew, have a link for that buck and story? Awesome. Hope this new nt is legit. Like to see more of the story
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: emac on February 03, 2016, 09:03:23 PM
:)
Is this awa buck. Nice buck no matter what

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Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Maverick on February 03, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
Stews buck is a WA buck. Known well by a good amount of people. The main buck I still don't know. You'd think a buck like living in asotin county would have been noticed by some people. Seems like no one knows anything about that buck except the person that shot it. I'd really like to see it be legit but a lot of the story is missing.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: daddyelk on February 03, 2016, 10:01:40 PM
Stew that is a great mount. I had the late rifle tag the same year you shot that buck. I was one of the many I'm sure that had pics of him and was hoping to find him during the season.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: floatinghat on February 05, 2016, 10:27:13 AM

I would think that any high fence / ranch etc. would have a pic and "score" of that bad boy.    Guessing the records folks have a method of contact, maybe they should reach out for some validation.  It should be easy enough for the hunter to pull their tag reporting info and provide it?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: stew pidasso on February 13, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
So I found out today that all three deer buddy Hughes entered in the horns competition were not shot in Washington. The new record will not be entered. The rifle he won will be returned. Also possible are civil charges against him.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Whitpirate on February 13, 2016, 05:46:08 PM
Haha a bunch of us called it!  Hope they get him for fraud.  Accepting the rifle proves intent.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 13, 2016, 05:47:52 PM

So I found out today that all three deer buddy Hughes entered in the horns competition were not shot in Washington. The new record will not be entered. The rifle he won will be returned. Also possible are civil charges against him.

Boom. Wow...greed strikes again. What a jackwagon.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: danderson on February 13, 2016, 06:35:56 PM
  The head and horn competition is the high light of the sportsman show for most of us for more than one reason, lets face it we all get cabin fever in the off season as things can get a bit cranky around here as well, its a great opportunity to spend the day dreaming about future trips, or getting there trophy's scored, and checking out new products on the market, but seriously the bottom line is putting wild game meat up on the shelf's for our families, antlers are nice but.........I wouldn't want to be that guy if the allegations are true.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: kodiak 907 on February 13, 2016, 08:41:43 PM
Smelled like a farm deer.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Branden on February 14, 2016, 04:59:17 PM
What are they going to do with the rifle etc? Seems like JB should receive it for his big bull he killed this year. I believe he got second overall at the show
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: 2MANY on February 15, 2016, 09:43:12 AM
Hey Buddy.

Hope you find your dad.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 15, 2016, 10:08:45 AM
Hey Buddy.

Hope you find your dad.

Huh?
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Seabass on February 16, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
Buddy was the character played by Will Ferrell in the movie "Elf". He was on a quest to find his real dad. Funny movie.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2016, 01:57:25 PM
Buddy was the character played by Will Ferrell in the movie "Elf". He was on a quest to find his real dad. Funny movie.

Dang...right over my head.  And I've even seen that movie recently.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: floatinghat on February 18, 2016, 07:07:58 PM
Does that mean I get next prize up??  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: Rainier10 on February 19, 2016, 08:45:48 AM
Everyone should move up one prize.  If you got a pocketknife you get the guy in front of you pocket knife.  :chuckle:

If I was one of the guys in the top 5 of show I would have been really mad.  I am sure the guys putting it on are super embarrassed.

What a clown for turning this into a debacle.  Not the guys putting it on the guy that turned in the farm deer or whatever it was.
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: M_ray on February 20, 2016, 10:19:34 AM
You guy's are all just jealous cry babies ...  :chuckle: why cant you just let guys cheat if they want?  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 2015 WA non typical whitetail, 246" ***update***
Post by: floatinghat on February 20, 2016, 11:34:26 PM
WAAAH, cause I want a better prize or something I will use.
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