Post by: MLBowhunting on February 03, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on February 03, 2016, 04:36:03 PM
Probably wouldn't use them to shoot beef.....but they sure work good on elk!
Ever hit a shoulder with one?
Post by: MLBowhunting on February 03, 2016, 04:43:14 PM
Post by: RubblesPH on February 03, 2016, 04:58:41 PM
No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots.
How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is?
Post by: RadSav on February 03, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
This year Easton is offering a 6-40 stainless steel Deep Six insert that will fit the X-shaft diameters. So the old FMJ and Axis shafts can be used as Deep Six compatible shafts. Not sure I would use an aluminum ferrule in 6-40 but we will have a titanium DelMastro and VanDyke in Deep Six this year. Slick Trick has a Deep Six that looks good and I think there are a couple other steel ferruled models coming out this year. Might strengthen those HIT shafts quite a bit!
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 03, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
Beef or elk shoulder? :)
No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots.
How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is?
Elk shoulders are pretty "beefy"
Post by: kellama2001 on February 03, 2016, 05:36:26 PM
Post by: RubblesPH on February 03, 2016, 06:47:58 PM
No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots.
How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is?
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[Elk shoulders are pretty "beefy"]
Ya, better shot is the double lung.
Just sayin that beef ribs vs. elk ribs doesn't seem to be a real fair comparison. Beef seem thicker, stronger, more dense. Would have been nice to see the demonstration done on a lighter boned animal....more comparable to elk. Also would have liked to see a fixed blade demonstration on the same/equal target. Just for comparison.
Although, I likely wouldn't change to fixed blade since the Rage has produced incredible results for me and my hunting partners. Big wound channels and deep penetration on big bodied elk out to 62 yards. Hard for me to argue with success.
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 03, 2016, 08:05:19 PM
My biggest thing is minimizing the risk should I hit a rib dead center.
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Post by: RadSav on February 03, 2016, 11:43:17 PM
I remember being at a 3-D shoot years ago where we had a corrugated culvert shot on a broadhead novelty target. Three bucks a shot. Successful shooters had a shoot off for all the money. Idea was simple - understand your arrows arch and just get it through the tube and you would hit the target. At the end of the day there was a pile of broadheads and arrows in a bucket on the exit side of the culvert. Blades catching on the corrugation, arrows glancing around...it was devastating on arrows and broadheads. No brand or model seemed to claim any superior high ground after a bad shot. It destroyed everything! Probably made the local shops a lot of extra money :chuckle:
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 05, 2016, 04:14:06 PM
But I do question this attitude that somehow mechanicals are better on marginal shots? I can understand how a bigger entrance, with possibly more blood, bigger swathe MAY increase the chances of cutting something lethal on a certain percentage of shots that strike soft tissue and liver/gut hits etc. But what about the other percentage that go the other way, And result in significant contact with bone? Wouldn't the benefit of a stronger bladed broadhead be more desirable in that situation.
I really wanted to shoot an animal with an expandable this year for comparison. My quickest kill with a fixed blade is a estimated 2-3 seconds. both elk this year were combined well under 30 seconds. ( this is using "crash time", Not when I walked up. I still give elk a bit, to make sure I wasn't mistaking other elk "crashing" which has burned me in the past.)And the cow was what I consider a marginal hit. Does the extra cutting diameter make that big of a difference on "perfect" hits?
Post by: LeviD1 on February 15, 2016, 06:52:43 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on February 21, 2016, 04:32:38 PM
If that's the case, any broadhead could do the same thing under those circumstances.