Post by: Jburke on February 09, 2016, 09:16:22 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 09, 2016, 09:56:02 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 09, 2016, 10:31:39 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 09, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
http://www.ammoland.com/2015/09/new-howa-mini-action-short-action-rifles-from-legacy-sports-international/#axzz3yaRaX4xX
Post by: Fl0und3rz on February 10, 2016, 04:45:28 AM
Yorketransport has one. I believe Grizz Precision did the smith work on it maybe? It's a converted CZ if I recall.
I thought I remembered something like that here.
6th hit on google.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=174239.0
Looks like a pretty sweet setup.
There's also this.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/27/cz-usa-will-offer-7-62x39-527-receiver-assemblies-for-sale/
Post by: Jburke on February 10, 2016, 07:52:32 PM
I posted a couple weeks ago about the new Howa "Mini Action" that will be available in 6.5 Grendel sometime this year. Maybe they're already available. I don't know but I do know Howa is known for good quality rifles.I saw that, but it looks like they are planning on late this year.
http://www.ammoland.com/2015/09/new-howa-mini-action-short-action-rifles-from-legacy-sports-international/#axzz3yaRaX4xX
Post by: Jburke on February 10, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 10, 2016, 08:07:33 PM
http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?10886-Howa-mini-action-in-grendel-to-be-released-in-mid-2016
Post by: Jburke on February 10, 2016, 08:22:43 PM
Post by: yorketransport on February 10, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
So it looks like it can be done with the CZ's as was mentioned earlier, but does anyone know if it can be done using anything else? For instance a Savage or Remington? I know I can get the barrel made for anything and can get just about any action, but the big question is will any action be compatible taking into consideration the bolt?
There are a few Savages floating round with the proper bolt face to run a Grendel. I believe that the specific model got discontinued though. PTG does make the proper bolt head to convert any short action Savage to run a PPC/7.62x39 case though.
The CZ 527 is an excellent little package. My finished conversion cost right about $1000 including the donor rifle. The advantage of using the CZ 527 is that it comes with a very nice wood stock and an exceptional set trigger.
You could also start with a Zastava model 85 as a donor action. It would save a few hundred dollars but you'd end up with a rougher stock and trigger as well as a poorer external finish. Same goes for the Remington 799. Neither one of those actions offers a true controlled round feed bolt though. The 527 just ends up being a better donor in my mind.
Post by: JDHasty on February 11, 2016, 02:13:11 AM
Post by: Jburke on February 11, 2016, 08:51:16 PM
Knowing that there are new bolt heads available helps a lot. If I went with a Savage, what else is there to consider to put it all together? Obviously need the donor rifle, new barrel, bolt head. Am I missing anything else?So it looks like it can be done with the CZ's as was mentioned earlier, but does anyone know if it can be done using anything else? For instance a Savage or Remington? I know I can get the barrel made for anything and can get just about any action, but the big question is will any action be compatible taking into consideration the bolt?
There are a few Savages floating round with the proper bolt face to run a Grendel. I believe that the specific model got discontinued though. PTG does make the proper bolt head to convert any short action Savage to run a PPC/7.62x39 case though.
The CZ 527 is an excellent little package. My finished conversion cost right about $1000 including the donor rifle. The advantage of using the CZ 527 is that it comes with a very nice wood stock and an exceptional set trigger.
You could also start with a Zastava model 85 as a donor action. It would save a few hundred dollars but you'd end up with a rougher stock and trigger as well as a poorer external finish. Same goes for the Remington 799. Neither one of those actions offers a true controlled round feed bolt though. The 527 just ends up being a better donor in my mind.
Post by: yorketransport on February 11, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
Post by: Jburke on February 11, 2016, 09:23:33 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 12, 2016, 05:31:23 AM
Post by: yorketransport on February 12, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
Sweet, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Has the potential to be a cheap(relatively) build. Is there a certain caliber to look for to accommodate the grendel case length the best?
I'd start with a 223 or 204 just because they're already using the proper length magazine.
Post by: lamrith on February 12, 2016, 07:27:36 AM
Just a barrel and bolt head really. Pick up a used gun in any short action caliber and you're good to go. You could modify a 223 magazine to feed the Grendel case, but it may take a little trial and error.Good point and idea. In the AR you can use std ar15 mags to feed Grendel, though it is definitely not optimal, and you lose a few rounds capacity. The grendel has a different follower to account for the fatter case and different shape as well. I do not see why the same could not be done with a bolt gun, though you will likely lose a round or two capacity due to the bigger diameter case of the grendel.
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2016, 09:26:05 AM
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Post by: lamrith on February 12, 2016, 11:27:54 AM
For the ar mags cant you just use the 762x39 mags that are out there?Those "banana" mags tend to not feed well from what I have read. The ASC and other mfg Grendel mags are nice and cheap too, $13-16 usually for a metal mag.. Not sure why a *39 AR though could not use a grendel mag now that you mention it..?
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Post by: Special T on February 12, 2016, 11:33:58 AM
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Post by: Jburke on February 13, 2016, 08:29:57 AM
Sounds good. It should be pretty easy to find a donor rifle for a good price. :tup:Sweet, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Has the potential to be a cheap(relatively) build. Is there a certain caliber to look for to accommodate the grendel case length the best?
I'd start with a 223 or 204 just because they're already using the proper length magazine.
Post by: Jburke on February 21, 2016, 01:56:14 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on February 22, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
Right jay and yorketransport ?
Post by: yorketransport on February 22, 2016, 08:39:24 PM
AICS mags, MDT LSS chassis with a 6 position Rock River Arms Operator Buttstock. Then use a Savage action with a Black Hole Weaponry barrel.
Right jay and yorketransport ?
I guess that would work alright, at least until somebody comes up with something better. :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on February 22, 2016, 09:50:36 PM
I'd just have the bolt face opened up on the bolt you have. That should only cost a couple bucks instead of a few hundred for a new bolt.AICS mags, MDT LSS chassis with a 6 position Rock River Arms Operator Buttstock. Then use a Savage action with a Black Hole Weaponry barrel.
Right jay and yorketransport ?
I guess that would work alright, at least until somebody comes up with something better. :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Hmmmmm, I wonder who that might be.... :chuckle:
Post by: Jburke on March 01, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
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Post by: Jburke on March 02, 2016, 11:49:37 AM
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Post by: Blacklab on April 13, 2016, 08:23:33 AM
Lilja
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Preicision Fire Arms
Post by: Jburke on April 14, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
How many different barrel mfg did you find in this caliber? Who were they? Any uber high end ones?Blacklab mentioned a few but I checked all the major manufacturers and they pretty much all made them. I went with Pac-Nor but looked into Lilja and Shilen also. I wanted quality with this gun and have heard nothing but good about Pac-Nor. I'll let you know how it shoots once I get it all put together.
Post by: Jburke on April 14, 2016, 09:02:05 PM
How many different barrel mfg did you find in this caliber? Who were they? Any uber high end ones?Also forgot to mention regarding parts, depending on the action one chooses the bolt is actually much less commonly produced and harder to find. PTG makes them and there was another company making them as well depending on the make of your action.
Post by: Blacklab on April 15, 2016, 07:11:00 AM
How many different barrel mfg did you find in this caliber? Who were they? Any uber high end ones?Blacklab mentioned a few but I checked all the major manufacturers and they pretty much all made them. I went with Pac-Nor but looked into Lilja and Shilen also. I wanted quality with this gun and have heard nothing but good about Pac-Nor. I'll let you know how it shoots once I get it all put together.
I see vapor trails in your future ;) Pac-Nor Is also a great one :brew: Have fun ;)
Post by: NWShooter on April 15, 2016, 11:45:56 PM
Post by: yorketransport on April 16, 2016, 06:39:55 AM
Looking forward to the finished rifle. It's only money and we all make it ever day. :tup:
Well said! :chuckle:
Post by: Jburke on April 16, 2016, 07:23:18 AM
Looking forward to the finished rifle. It's only money and we all make it ever day. :tup:Absolutely! And I sold another gun to finance this build so I'm really only going to be in to it for 3-400 out of pocket anyways.
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Post by: NWShooter on April 20, 2016, 06:59:25 PM