Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
Post by: BNAElkhntr on February 10, 2016, 11:57:17 AM
Post by: rtspring on February 10, 2016, 12:13:55 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on February 10, 2016, 12:14:53 PM
Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
What river was that?
Post by: Encore 280 on February 10, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2016, 12:52:34 PM
Never seen him miss. :yike:
Post by: kirkl on February 10, 2016, 01:20:37 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186949.0.html
Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
I didn't think it looked like any blacktail country I've ever seen in my home state of Washington.
Weird.
Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
I had no idea this was such a huge issue.
Bummer for him and the new twist a quiver.
Post by: haugenna on February 10, 2016, 06:18:23 PM
Post by: haugenna on February 10, 2016, 06:22:16 PM
Watching it now on DVR. He changed his tune in his voice over and called out his location to Central Washigton. In the actual video footage he can't help but calling them Colombia blacktails, similar to his Facebook defense.
Another voice over where he calls out "bench legs". More damage control.
Post by: JDHasty on February 10, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on February 10, 2016, 06:34:00 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 10, 2016, 06:51:33 PM
He called them Blacktails, and he said where..... and B&C calls them Blacktails where he hunted.
Why the hate???
The dude shoots some animals........ I'd hate to be a trophy within 100 yards of his bow.
Post by: JDHasty on February 10, 2016, 07:00:14 PM
I figure he addressed it accurately.
He called them Blacktails, and he said where..... and B&C calls them Blacktails where he hunted.
Why the hate???
The dude shoots some animals........ I'd hate to be a trophy within 100 yards of his bow.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Columbia River near Cook.
https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_boundaries.asp?area=bgRecords
Post by: Dan-o on February 10, 2016, 07:18:47 PM
I figure he addressed it accurately.
He called them Blacktails, and he said where..... and B&C calls them Blacktails where he hunted.
Why the hate???
The dude shoots some animals........ I'd hate to be a trophy within 100 yards of his bow.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Columbia River near Cook.
https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_boundaries.asp?area=bgRecords
I could easily be wrong...... and I don't have a dog in the fight, so if I am that's fine.
But I don't know where he was in relation to the boundary info you posted.
Are you saying that he was on the Mule Deer side of the line?
Post by: haugenna on February 10, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 10, 2016, 07:47:46 PM
He said he was in a fringe area but was hunting true blacktails. Not exactly accurate and a little twisted, only if you know the back story.
:yeah:
There really is not much to add. Actually there is a lot in the thread that is linked to above about the outfitter as well.
Post by: JDHasty on February 10, 2016, 08:04:58 PM
I figure he addressed it accurately.
He called them Blacktails, and he said where..... and B&C calls them Blacktails where he hunted.
Why the hate???
The dude shoots some animals........ I'd hate to be a trophy within 100 yards of his bow.
Nice try, but no cigar.
Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Columbia River near Cook.
https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_boundaries.asp?area=bgRecords
I could easily be wrong...... and I don't have a dog in the fight, so if I am that's fine.
But I don't know where he was in relation to the boundary info you posted.
Are you saying that he was on the Mule Deer side of the line?
Well to the east of the boundary. If you talk to most of the people who hunt down there they are 100% comfortable with the deer there being labeled crosses or benchlegs. They know that an unalloyed Columbia blacktail, or coastal blacktail or whatever would be an exceeedingly rare deer that are in that country.
Burnworth knows that too IMHO, if he did not why would he try to set up some cockamaimie canard involving hunters that use different methods as a way to distract from the issue. Gp to his Facebook page and watch the video and it is clear that he had no tenable rebuttal, so he tried real hard to set up a strawman instead.
Post by: Maverick on February 10, 2016, 08:14:03 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 10, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
Didn't watch the episode but I think its hilarious he taped over the Columbia blacktail part :chuckle: the guide posted about the episode being on and I commented joking about goldendake being so close to the coast and they deleted the comment and blocked me lol:nono: :chuckle:
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 11, 2016, 02:19:57 PM
This is what got my ire.Didn't watch the episode but I think its hilarious he taped over the Columbia blacktail part :chuckle: the guide posted about the episode being on and I commented joking about goldendake being so close to the coast and they deleted the comment and blocked me lol:nono: :chuckle:
Stating all the animals it WAS NOT, and then calling it a Columbian Blacktail, instead of adding another "it is not", before calling it a Columbia Blacktail. I mean, if it was a Whitetail, would he have called it a Columbian Whitetail? B&C's boundaries are not the exact boundaries of the Columbian Blacktail, they have been moved slightly inward to reduce the possibility of hybridization with Mule Deer and Mule Deer/Blacktail crosses. There are undoubtedly Columbian Blacktail in other area's, but because of possible hybridization they are not considered pure Columbian Blacktails by B&C. As a nationally aired show, and recognized outdoor celebrity he should have included the information that it was outside the acknowledged zone. ... Some guy from the East Coast would be really pissed if he paid big $$ to come hunt "Columbian Blacktail" and find out it would not qualify for any recognition other than a fine animal... If he was after a "slam" he would be really upset. But the outfitter is selling hunts right now on the merits of that show, and any negative responses are shoveled under the mat, at his prices, he only needs a few suckers a year...
Post by: JDHasty on February 11, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
This is what got my ire.Didn't watch the episode but I think its hilarious he taped over the Columbia blacktail part :chuckle: the guide posted about the episode being on and I commented joking about goldendake being so close to the coast and they deleted the comment and blocked me lol:nono: :chuckle:
Stating all the animals it WAS NOT, and then calling it a Columbian Blacktail, instead of adding another "it is not", before calling it a Columbia Blacktail. I mean, if it was a Whitetail, would he have called it a Columbian Whitetail? B&C's boundaries are not the exact boundaries of the Columbian Blacktail, they have been moved slightly inward to reduce the possibility of hybridization with Mule Deer and Mule Deer/Blacktail crosses. There are undoubtedly Columbian Blacktail in other area's, but because of possible hybridization they are not considered pure Columbian Blacktails by B&C. As a nationally aired show, and recognized outdoor celebrity he should have included the information that it was outside the acknowledged zone. ... Some guy from the East Coast would be really pissed if he paid big $$ to come hunt "Columbian Blacktail" and find out it would not qualify for any recognition other than a fine animal... If he was after a "slam" he would be really upset. But the outfitter is selling hunts right now on the merits of that show, and any negative responses are shoveled under the mat, at his prices, he only needs a few suckers a year...
I posted something very similar back in December on this thread http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,186949.150.html
IMHO, Burnworth is as culpable as Twisted Horn for deliberately and systematically deceiving potential clients and since he has been following that thread and other threads on Archery Talk that discussed this whole sordid episode - he has to be aware of the consequences of his actions.
We all do realize that this is a nationally televised show right? Is WA state on the coast of the US?
pretty much anybody who is not is WA state, or intimately knows the state, would not disagree with what he said.
Glad to see I am not all out on a limb on that assessment. I posted something similar up the thread. These clowns are selling to a national audience and what a tragedy it would be if someone from out of the area booked their dream hunt for a blacktail or Roosevelt elk with an outfit that lead them to believe that they were taking them on just such a hunt. There is the potential to cause another person harm by participating in this kind of unethical obfuscation. Burnwell probably doesn't even appreciate that aspect, he doesn't pay market price for the opportunities he enjoys.
Post by: JDHasty on February 11, 2016, 03:13:18 PM
Post by: fishnfur on February 11, 2016, 05:15:58 PM
On the downside, we all seem to understand that he is clearly deceptive in his wordplay and definitions of deer species in his hunting area. He had ample opportunity to explain the hybridization zone and resulting animals of mixed characteristics, but instead proceeds on his premise that if it has a black tail, then it is a pure Blacktail deer,and identical to those on the coast. Many here believe the same thing, but I'm pretty sure he knows better. He seems to have heard enough of the hunting community's complaining to go back and edit the show so that it at least resembled the truth to the uneducated hunters in other parts of the country. I don't know about you, but I felt the tail on his beautiful buck had the exact shape of a mule deer's tail - nothing like the more cylindrical shape of a coastal blacktail.
I'm sure the pressures involved in producing a contracted number of shows per year affects his values. Ultimately, he looses esteem, credibility, and reputation through his antics. What goes around, comes around. He'll surely someday regret some of his poor decisions.
I talked to Scott Haugen at the Portland Sportsman's show today..... That was kind of cool......
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 12, 2016, 11:14:51 AM
Was very impressed about the difference between his original release of a video, and the final show.
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
Another Burnworth coastal Columbian blacktail buckThat actually looks like the Grinch that stole Christmas reign deer. Lol
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Post by: JDHasty on February 12, 2016, 03:59:22 PM
Another Burnworth coastal Columbian blacktail buckThat actually looks like the Grinch that stole Christmas reign deer. Lol
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Nope, that is not Max, that is by God a pure strain benchleg that I caught red handed impersonating a blacktail on the streets of Goldendale (can'tcha' can see that he has a black tail) - I was kinda' on the fence given the stocky appearance and the fact that it's home range is located within two hours of Portland OR.
I sent my labs down with instructions to lift up the tail and give it a good sniff, right where it would do the most good. That's a benchleg for sure.
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2016, 04:11:54 PM
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Post by: bigbeamhunter on February 14, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
The only thing I thought was wrong was the lying and hunting with a guide that has from what I have heard pending charges from letting a client shoot an elk that ran on to the refuge and tried to retrieve it on a federal refuge. I won't go into that. He had an opportunity to introduce to hunters a different sub species of deer on chose to try and weasel a lie into his show.
Post by: fishnfur on February 14, 2016, 09:47:45 AM
Exactly!
Post by: BNAElkhntr on February 14, 2016, 10:05:27 AM
Post by: haugenna on February 14, 2016, 11:58:23 AM
Post by: bigbeamhunter on February 14, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 14, 2016, 08:59:32 PM
I was the original poster of Jims truck being in Goldendale. I didn't think it was to big of a deal other than the dishonestly. We hunt these deer knowing they can not be scored as a blacktail in B/C or P/Y and only a very few in area are big enough to make it as a mule deer. As the for the guide and would never recommend him. As for the video where they are looking over the canyon. They are standing on the shoulder of the road. And side hilling on the other side of the guard rail. When this first happened Jim contacted me through email and I called him out for lying. He text me later and said he was going to come to my house and set me straight. I didn't really feel it was a threat I was hoping it was going to be an apology we played phone tag for awhil but became of it.:yeah:
The only thing I thought was wrong was the lying and hunting with a guide that has from what I have heard pending charges from letting a client shoot an elk that ran on to the refuge and tried to retrieve it on a federal refuge. I won't go into that. He had an opportunity to introduce to hunters a different sub species of deer on chose to try and weasel a lie into his show.
Post by: JDHasty on February 14, 2016, 09:02:25 PM
As far as educating me on the blacktail species. I could probably educate him and his guide. Considering I have for or five from both sides of the line that score from 130 to 150 or so. What bums me out about Jim is on his shows he takes the time to educate and show you tips. Most don't do that. But the lying thing is not cool. And I did take as a threat but wasn't to worried.
Very much not cool. And he has kids, he should be setting a better example.
Post by: Bigshooter on February 14, 2016, 09:52:38 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 15, 2016, 06:03:50 AM
Who cares. This is like when a guy says he killed a 180 deer and the internet police get on here and say no way that thing is over 170. Get over yourselves.
Evidently you lack the capacity to appreciate the fact that there is a difference in kind, not just a difference in degree involved here. This is the SAME EXACT thing Kirt Darner was involved in, yes Darner claimed deer was a B&C Couse Whitetail when it was no such thing, it wasn't a Couse Whitetail at all.
If a person claims to not care maybe it is because they identify with Darner & Burnworth and actively seek out outfitters like *censored* and the cat Burnworth hunted Roosevelt elk with in Graham, where there are no Roosevelt elk. Shane Barbour. Maybe they do this because they can claim a trophy as something it is not and want to have an outfitter provide "expert testimony" that it is what they claim or maybe they want to have a scapegoat all set up that they can deflect blame on if called out.
I think someone from the east coast or the mid west who booked a blacktail hunt in an area that blacktails are not recognized (precisely because the Coastal or Columbian blacktail population that lives there among st the mule deer cross deer shrinks to insignificance when compared to the entire deer population in the area) just might care.
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If you still want to say: Who cares? For a start, well this article suggests that the B&C Club cares.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9857832
It took Jack Reneau, director of big-game records with Boone & Crockett years of travel through multiple states to find irrefutable proof of the violation, which the organization takes very seriously. As Reneau explained, having — or losing — those kinds of trophies can have a huge impact on an outfitter's livelihood.
After the organization stripped Darner of that record in 1990, others followed.
A record-setting rare breed of small deer he claimed to have taken turned out to be another type of deer altogether. A bighorn sheep head was never legally documented when he left the game unit where he reportedly shot it. When the organization asked for a hands-on inspection of his other trophies, Darner withdrew all his purported records.
"text removed due to threat of lawsuit"
Post by: Bigshooter on February 15, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Who cares. This is like when a guy says he killed a 180 deer and the internet police get on here and say no way that thing is over 170. Get over yourselves.
Evidently you lack the capacity to appreciate the fact that there is a difference in kind, not just a difference in degree involved here. This is the SAME EXACT thing Kirt Darner was involved in, yes Darner claimed deer was a B&C Couse Whitetail when it was no such thing, it wasn't a Couse Whitetail at all.
If a person claims to not care maybe it is because they identify with Darner & Burnworth and actively seek out outfitters like Twisted Horn and the cat Burnworth hunted Roosevelt elk with in Graham, where there are no Roosevelt elk. Shane Barbour. Maybe they do this because they can claim a trophy as something it is not and want to have an outfitter provide "expert testimony" that it is what they claim or maybe they want to have a scapegoat all set up that they can deflect blame on if called out.
I think someone from the east coast or the mid west who booked a blacktail hunt in an area that blacktails are not recognized (precisely because the Coastal or Columbian blacktail population that lives there among st the mule deer cross deer shrinks to insignificance when compared to the entire deer population in the area) just might care.
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If you still want to say: Who cares? For a start, well this article suggests that the B&C Club cares.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9857832
It took Jack Reneau, director of big-game records with Boone & Crockett years of travel through multiple states to find irrefutable proof of the violation, which the organization takes very seriously. As Reneau explained, having — or losing — those kinds of trophies can have a huge impact on an outfitter's livelihood.
After the organization stripped Darner of that record in 1990, others followed.
A record-setting rare breed of small deer he claimed to have taken turned out to be another type of deer altogether. A bighorn sheep head was never legally documented when he left the game unit where he reportedly shot it. When the organization asked for a hands-on inspection of his other trophies, Darner withdrew all his purported records.
What Danner did had ZERO effect on me. Same with Jim. I have better things to do than worry about where an animal was killed. And if your dumb enough to book a hunting trip off of watching a hunting show you get what you deserve. When B and C is tax payer funded I'll start to care.
Post by: 2MANY on February 16, 2016, 08:26:21 AM
Pope and Young are right there with em.
I think Mr. Burnsworth's deer are definitely part white and black tail.
If you look closely you will see both colors.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 16, 2016, 01:11:48 PM
Boone and Crockett is a joke that most I know intentionally skip.Only thing is, they are blacktail/mule deer cross...
Pope and Young are right there with em.
I think Mr. Burnsworth's deer are definitely part white and black tail.
If you look closely you will see both colors.
Post by: 2MANY on February 16, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 16, 2016, 03:23:10 PM
https://www.outdoorsman.com/listing/twisted-horn-outfitters-washington-roosevelt-elk-hunting-guides/
Post by: JDHasty on February 16, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
And how about this:
https://huntingspecialist.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/twisted-horn-outfitters-washington-blacktail-deer-hunts/
Hunting in the Rainforests of Washington are unlike any other hunting challenges in the World!
The thick underbrush and steep terrain offer long life to the famous Blacktail and Roosevelt Elk, some of the creatures known as Timber Ghosts! Growing up at the Foothills of the Cascades, Brian has learned how to predict the habits of these elusive animals, and in doing so, have skyrocketed their success rates on these Trophy’s!
&
Let us help you put that Trophy Blacktail on your wall! No mistaken, these are the toughest deer to hunt anywhere. These deer live in thick brush and canopy timber.
So "Jimmy," watcha' got to say for yourself? Did it smell like you were hunting in a rain forest? What a diaper load. Rain forest, shmain forest, GTHOH.
Post by: JDHasty on February 16, 2016, 03:54:39 PM
*censored*
So right here *censored* acknowledges that benchlegs are NOT blacktails. Burnworth knows darned well that finding a true blacktail 40 or 50 miles east of the PCT and Cook WA is as about as likely as finding an honest politician in Olympia.
"text removed due to threat of lawsuit"
Post by: RadSav on February 16, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 16, 2016, 04:02:50 PM
5-day guided archery Roosevelt Elk hunt for one hunter during the prime time peak of the rut during the September 2015 westside archery season, from their private 10,000 acre hunting area that borders the Mt. Adams Wilderness Area and bordered by an expansive wildlife refuge.
http://www.liveauctionworld.com/Twisted-Horn-Outfitters-Guided-Trophy-Washington-Archery-Elk-Hunt_i21629477
CATEGORY BOUNDARIES
FOR N.A. BIG GAME ACCEPTED IN THE BOONE AND CROCKETT RECORDS PROGRAM
Roosevelt’s elk are acceptable from Del Norte, Humboldt and Trinity Counties, California, as well as that portion of Siskiyou County west of I-5 in northern California; from west of Highway I-5 in Oregon and Washington; from Vancouver Island, B.C.; and from Afognak and Raspberry Islands of Alaska. The Alaskan animals are the result of a successful transplant from the Olympic Peninsula of Washington. To date no trophies from Alaska have been entered that reach the current all-time records book minimum score of 290. Most of the entered trophies to date have come from coastal Oregon and Washington, with a smaller number from Vancouver Island.
Post by: Bigshooter on February 16, 2016, 05:43:36 PM
Post by: JDHasty on February 16, 2016, 06:25:45 PM
Post by: eastfork on February 19, 2016, 10:39:44 PM
Big shooter is amazing!!!!you totally have lost your marbles!!! :chuckle:
Post by: Bigshooter on February 19, 2016, 10:50:12 PM
:yeah:Thanks
Big shooter is amazing!!!!
Post by: JDHasty on February 19, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
My opinion is: From a man who much is entrusted, much is expected. This man, Burnworth, has a lot entrusted to him. Does he not? If not then how so can it be that he is accepted as an "expert?"
He cannot be accepted as an expert on the subject at hand and not be reliable... or can he be? How so, if the latter is proven to be the case?
Burnworth purports to be an expert in the subject matter being discussed and his testimony is DEMONSTRABLY impeachable. Is it not? Actually his words on the subject do not align with the facts according to any recognized authority in this matter. He is, in the vernacular, BSing the audience, which it must be accepted, in the case of his global viewing audience (taken as a whole) - is uninformed. His audience is National, is it not?
OK, now, I am going to go out on a limb and say that Burnworth has to KNOW that he is stretching credulity to well past the breaking point. In my book that makes him a bold faced liar, ESPECIALLY since he has been monitoring these pages and has an obligation to, at the very least, do due diligence and find out what is the truth before proceeding to add further insult to injury in publishing a video that leads future clients to book a hunt for a blacktail deer in a vicinity that blacktail deer shrink to insignificance in, when compared to the total number of deer to be found there.
It really boils down to this: Burnworth is engaged in a commercial endeavor. Burnworth was more likely than not paid to hunt with an outfitter who makes certain claims. Burnworth doubles down on those claims. Are those claims true? Are they not true? What is your source for saying that the claims are true? I have made the case for the claims not being true. Either put up or shut up. Document how any claim that Burnworth made was true or what? Claim that a blacktail deer is not a distinct species that is almost only found in certain distinct areas. OK, document that.
I am not saying that Burnworth did not shoot a Columbia blacktail deer, I am saying I am skeptical, extremely skeptical, and B&C and the WDFW and every other source I can think of would be likewise - skeptical. Extremely skeptical.
My claim is that claims Burnworth made were not consistent with the truth. e.g. Burnworth claimed to have bagged a "trophy blacktail" when Burnworth new, or konws now, and has known long before the video was published to a nationwide audience, that the deer he shot was a benchleg. A very nice benchleg, but a benchleg (a hybrid cross between mule deer and blacktail) and NOT a trophy blacktail deer.
Post by: Limhangerslayer on February 20, 2016, 12:02:00 AM
Post by: JDHasty on February 20, 2016, 12:20:33 AM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on February 20, 2016, 12:41:29 AM
Was the "baited" area east, or west of the line? Was the baited area north of 50 miles east of that line? AND finally, does the chance of encountering an honest to God blacktail buck within a fifty-mile radius of that site shrink to insignificance when compared to finding a benchleg buck within fifty miles of that specific location? I am not saying that he did not shoot the only blacktail that happened to wander into his stand, I am saying that I would put 1,000:1 against it. Actually, I would put the odds at 10,000;1 against it. And you know that I am right.you took my quotations wrong! Relax. The buck i shot this year was a benchleg less then fifty miles as a crow flies from his kill. I've shot a buck within five miles of the breaks video he killed a cross and claimed blacktail end of sentence! Turkey season is coming up ! Happy off season to everybody!
Post by: JDHasty on February 20, 2016, 12:58:11 AM
Was the "baited" area east, or west of the line? Was the baited area north of 50 miles east of that line? AND finally, does the chance of encountering an honest to God blacktail buck within a fifty-mile radius of that site shrink to insignificance when compared to finding a benchleg buck within fifty miles of that specific location? I am not saying that he did not shoot the only blacktail that happened to wander into his stand, I am saying that I would put 1,000:1 against it. Actually, I would put the odds at 10,000;1 against it. And you know that I am right.you took my quotations wrong! Relax. The buck i shot this year was a benchleg less then fifty miles as a crow flies from his kill. I've shot a buck within five miles of the breaks video he killed a cross and claimed blacktail end of sentence! Turkey season is coming up ! Happy off season to everybody!
It is absolutely not that I have anything against taking a Goldendale buck and looking for a nice one. What i object to is four-flushing and worse on the part of a guy that is ONLY looking to enhance his resume' by claiming a goldendale buck is a blacktail. For God's sake, I culd be Kirt Darner with Kirt Darner's lies. I hunt hard. Everybody that hunted with Kirt Darner says Kirt hunted hard. But none of them was willing to validate his B&C bucks and from what we know now - not a single one was legitimate.
But he got the "air time" because of his lies. I guess it is what you are comfortable with when it comes to "creative editing" and I do not have a television. But this Burnworth has a documented history of dry shaving his audience. And because of his telegenic personality his audience spans the country., I guess I simply object to people who make a living off BS.