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Big Game Hunting => Out Of State Hunting => Topic started by: Bigshooter on February 17, 2016, 11:22:22 PM

Title: Utah Draw
Post by: Bigshooter on February 17, 2016, 11:22:22 PM: Don't forget to apply. I think the deadline is March 3rd. And the pts only application period stays open for 2 more weeks. So if March 3rd is right it would be March 17th for pts only.

I got my applications in tonight.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: ffbowhunter on February 17, 2016, 11:34:15 PM: I got ours in as well!
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: swashington2128 on February 18, 2016, 02:59:07 PM: Same here, 2nd year for LE Bull Elk and LE Mule Deer. Only 8 more years, Books Cliff here I come!
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: Ridgerunner on February 18, 2016, 03:02:42 PM: I got mine in.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 18, 2016, 03:08:03 PM: What's it cost to apply for deer and elk?
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: SnakeEyes on February 18, 2016, 03:52:12 PM: The cost is $65 for the license and $10 per species.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: emac on February 18, 2016, 03:54:08 PM: Cheap some where around $85 dollars. And if you plan it out right it will be $20 every other year since there license is good for a year from the date you purchase it.

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Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 18, 2016, 03:56:10 PM: Quote from: emac on February 18, 2016, 03:54:08 PM
Cheap some where around $85 dollars. And if you plan it out right it will be $20 every other year since there license is good for a year from the date you purchase it.

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Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: KopperBuck on February 18, 2016, 03:58:50 PM: Quote from: emac on February 18, 2016, 03:54:08 PM
Cheap some where around $85 dollars. And if you plan it out right it will be $20 every other year since there license is good for a year from the date you purchase it.

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Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 18, 2016, 04:10:55 PM: Don't mean to draw more attention to this thread but, after doing some quick research and picking out a good deer and elk unit. What is the average amount of years to draw those top units for rifle, and can you apply with partners? PM are good, thanks.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: TomT on February 19, 2016, 11:17:34 AM: I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but if you're counting on points to draw one of the highly sought after tags, you might not get it in this lifetime.

I started putting in for Utah points 16 years ago and last year did draw a good, but not great, elk tag (Bookcliffs late). I don't remember what the points that were required when I first started, but point creep is going to kill you guys that are just starting.

Here's why:

In 2015 there were over 12,000 non-resident applicants for LE elk tags. Only 267 drew tags (and only 104 got them on bonus points, the rest on lottery)
In 2015 there were over 11,000 non-resident applicants for LE deer tags. Only 122 drew tags (and only 47 got them on bonus points)

Here's the link so you can look at the stats for yourself. http://wildlife.utah.gov/hunting/biggame/pdf/2015/15_big_game_odds_report.pdf

I don't want to discourage you from applying, just go in with your eyes wide open. I started putting in for points in Colorado 20 years ago and still have about 2500 non-residents with more points than me. I wanted to draw a unit 61 muzzy tag when I first started and it only took 6 points then. Now it's like 24 or something. I will never draw that tag in my lifetime.

If you look at several years worth of stats, you'll see that points on the good units usually go up about a point per year. Point creep is a killer. My recommendation is to apply and hope you get one of the lottery tags (50% of allocated tags per unit) and burn your points on an okay hunt when you can.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: 3dvapor on February 19, 2016, 11:35:00 AM: I'm hoping once the baby boomer generation starts hitting 60s and 70s there will be a huge move every year in upper tier point category dropping out or cashing in on lesser hunts due to age and desire to hunt. My only chance. Lol
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: walleye1 on February 19, 2016, 12:22:04 PM: Just drew central mts Manti archery bull thru the Sportsmans convention draw I guess it does pay off to go to these conventions
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: MtnMuley on February 19, 2016, 01:00:32 PM: :tup:
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 19, 2016, 01:06:41 PM: Thanks for the info TomT, those odds kinda explain why it's cheap to apply. Seems like you have a very very slim chance, if I was 20 again I'd be all over this, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: TomT on February 19, 2016, 01:43:24 PM: Congrats Walleye! I've been thinking of going to that show for a few years now. Was it a good show? I have family that live a few miles from the Manti unit and I've explored it a little. Beautiful country!
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: walleye1 on February 19, 2016, 02:27:06 PM: I wouldn't go just for the show its just ok. We went to the banquet to see the high dollar tag sale. Full curl society giveaway I think nine sheep tags Plus your Utah convention tags make it worth the trip for me. And if you like mule deer there's probably 200 plus 200 inches mounted
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: swashington2128 on February 19, 2016, 02:54:27 PM: Understand the stats but keep in mind that those stats are for the entire state. You can look at the different areas and find better chances. There are places that are great for really nice bulls and places that are good. If you go for archery your chances are better but it is hard hunting with long shots. Still better than this state.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: TomT on February 19, 2016, 05:43:00 PM: Yes, I agree, that is why I suggested burning points on easier to draw areas. I was only pointing out that if people are just starting out with a dream of drawing one of the highly coveted tags, the odds are very slim.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: kramer on February 19, 2016, 05:58:34 PM: Hey walleye pm me. I have info for your elk tag if you need some help.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: swashington2128 on February 20, 2016, 09:16:43 AM: TomT, I wasn't arguing with you because you are correct, I was just pointing out that it is not all doom and gloom for those not needing to get into the premium units. I went there last year for general season Mule Deer and had an absolute blast. Nearly every day I was glassing great bucks and then trying to get a good stalk on them. 85 yards was the closest I could get but still it was awesome. The average bucks I was looking at were 160 class deer with one really nice buck that was pushing 180. This was in a National park public land hunting. I never ran into another hunter the whole week and it was only week two of the season.

So if someone wants quality hunting and a good chance at general season while keeping the dream alive by collecting points, Utah is a good choice.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: TomT on February 20, 2016, 12:42:47 PM: Sounds like a good time! I may try that next year, but have Colorado plans this year.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: starbailey on February 23, 2016, 06:56:01 AM: Fingers are crossed. Got mine done yesterday.
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: boneaddict on February 23, 2016, 07:07:10 AM: I'm ready to,draw
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Post by: ShaneTyTrey on February 24, 2016, 06:30:30 PM: I am in for all species and only premium tags, I am ready to get skunked but you can't win if you don't play!
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 26, 2016, 01:04:32 PM: I'm in for deer elk and bison. Not really having too high of hopes but someone had to win right!!??
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: Alaskan on February 27, 2016, 07:16:35 PM: Went to the show as well in Utah. Things are getting interesting down there with regard to the expo and the tags given away.

http://kutv.com/allegations-of-corruption-surround-utah-hungtin-and-conservation-expo
Title: Re: Utah Draw
Post by: Halo on February 27, 2016, 08:37:39 PM: I'm all ready to apply, I've been waiting until the last minute because this year I have to buy a license and waiting gives me longer next year. I'm going long odds again this year so I will likely just be gaining points. I am getting closer though, 17 points for deer and bison and 7 for everything else. Good luck everybody.