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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 01:11:24 PM

Title: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 01:11:24 PM: Lady's and gentlemen I am in dire need of your help identifying the type of bullet seen in these photos. I am a reloaded and avid shooter of all types of weapons and in my opinion I believe this round came from a pistol. Maybe the rifling may give us a hint of that caliber type or weapon used. Thank you for any help.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 09, 2016, 01:13:22 PM: What's the back story on this?
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 09, 2016, 01:13:32 PM: Holy smokes man! Story here?

Looks like a HP, jacketed bullet and since it is in good repair - probably pistol. Pull it out and put a caliper to the base :dunno:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: h20hunter on March 09, 2016, 01:23:37 PM: Yep....story and dimensions needed.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 01:26:36 PM: I'm thinking rifle based on an assumption. To me it looks like a boat tail bulet that traveled in a tight and down direction in the pic and lodged into the wall. I don't know of any boat tail pistol bullets. :twocents:
It could very well be the opposite and that is the front of a bullet?
On second look it seems like a fmj with lead in the base? In that case I'm guessing either .223 caliber or .308

Definitely need more info tho.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 09, 2016, 02:04:48 PM: Hard to tell but looks like a boat tail bullet ! Rifle ?
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Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 09, 2016, 02:15:01 PM: Due to texture of wall, and angle of bullet I suspect that it is embedded in an exterior wall from some yahoo who shot up in the air from a distance without thinking about where the bullet was going to come down.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: jackelope on March 09, 2016, 02:18:57 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160309%2Fc67e01c35db0ff4103a20f82a467cac8.jpg&hash=74e82fea235c6e831fa8f5d7d9a62710f8bdcdb9)

Can you remove it from the wall? Do you have a caliper to get the dimensions?
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 PM: :yike:

Rifle bullet, based on cannelure and boat tail. Likely FMJ based on apparent open lead base. Judging on popularity and relative dimensions on the wallpaper alone, probably .30 caliber. Looks like trajectory was down and to the right based on the marks left on the wallpaper.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 02:26:20 PM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on March 09, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
What's the back story on this?
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This round appeared to have crash through a double pane window and logged in this wall. It's still under investigation but apparently the police LOST the bullet.... Photo shows the hole after it was removed.
To me it does not appear to be a boat tail
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 02:30:10 PM: Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
:yike:

Rifle bullet, based on cannelure and boat tail. Likely FMJ based on apparent open lead base. Judging on popularity and relative dimensions on the wallpaper alone, probably .30 caliber. Looks like trajectory was down and to the right based on the marks left on the wallpaper.
Hey no copying my post! See #4! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: NW-GSP on March 09, 2016, 02:30:44 PM: Looks like a rifle projectile. Due to length of the rifling marks on the projectile.
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Post by: Skillet on March 09, 2016, 02:34:42 PM: They lost the bullet??

I think rifle as well. Was this in a classroom?
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Post by: DRobnsn on March 09, 2016, 02:38:30 PM: Quote from: Skillet on March 09, 2016, 02:34:42 PM
They lost the bullet??

I think rifle as well. Was this in a classroom?

:yeah:
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Post by: LDennis24 on March 09, 2016, 02:42:12 PM: Sure it's not a hollow point? Look's almost like a crimp line on the bottom right and hollow point on top.
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Post by: Skillet on March 09, 2016, 02:45:16 PM: Definitely think it's a flat base rifle bullet, tip is buried. Rifling marks are between cannelure and base.

Like these 62 gr .223 fmj
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 09, 2016, 02:56:51 PM: It looks like the width of the hole in the wall pretty closely matches the diameter of the bullet. It would at least get you in the right ballpark (.223, .308, .45) and offer some scale.
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Post by: Skillet on March 09, 2016, 02:59:15 PM: Pretty small bullet - compared to the staples holding that little star to the wall.
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Post by: whacker1 on March 09, 2016, 03:06:08 PM: Doesn't appear to have any expansion, fragmenting, mushrooming, so I am guessing that it was falling from the sky below expansion velocity. Pretty crazy, thank you for the back story.
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Post by: andersonjk4 on March 09, 2016, 03:11:51 PM: Assuming a staple width of 1/2" looks like the bullet is probably a .224 caliber. I think Skillet may be right on with his post above.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 03:14:19 PM: :yeah:
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 03:24:25 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 03:14:19 PM
:yeah:

:yeah:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 03:57:58 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 01:26:36 PM
I'm thinking rifle based on an assumption. To me it looks like a boat tail bulet that traveled in a tight and down direction in the pic and lodged into the wall. I don't know of any boat tail pistol bullets. :twocents:
It could very well be the opposite and that is the front of a bullet?
On second look it seems like a fmj with lead in the base? In that case I'm guessing either .223 caliber or .308

Definitely need more info tho.

Yes sir I think boa ttail is correct. The grooves would wouldnt just end it would be all the entire length of the bullet! :bash:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 03:59:33 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on March 09, 2016, 02:04:48 PM
Hard to tell but looks like a boat tail bullet ! Rifle ?

:tup:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: TheSkyBuster on March 09, 2016, 04:04:44 PM: Looks like an SS109 to me
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 04:07:14 PM: Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
:yike:

Rifle bullet, based on cannelure and boat tail. Likely FMJ based on apparent open lead base. Judging on popularity and relative dimensions on the wallpaper alone, probably .30 caliber. Looks like trajectory was down and to the right based on the marks left on the wallpaper.

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Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 09, 2016, 04:18:04 PM: Quote from: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
:yike:

Rifle bullet, based on cannelure and boat tail. Likely FMJ based on apparent open lead base. Judging on popularity and relative dimensions on the wallpaper alone, probably .30 caliber. Looks like trajectory was down and to the right based on the marks left on the wallpaper.

Thank you BullBlaster for your knowledge and your service to our country as VET to VET. TRUMP 2016
That was flounderz.
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Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: HuntinCrazy on March 09, 2016, 04:55:14 PM: Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 09, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
:yike:

Rifle bullet, based on cannelure and boat tail. Likely FMJ based on apparent open lead base. Judging on popularity and relative dimensions on the wallpaper alone, probably .30 caliber. Looks like trajectory was down and to the right based on the marks left on the wallpaper.

Thank you!!! You are right on it. :tup: :tup:...Sorry I miss posted my thanks to another comment here. Vet To Vet for Trump 2016
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: quadrafire on March 09, 2016, 05:23:50 PM: Sounds like we have some folks that should be on a CSI TV program :chuckle:. I still want to hear more of a story. Looks like a kids room :yike:
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: high country on March 09, 2016, 10:35:52 PM: Based on the scale posted, I'm thinking .223 bullet from a 1-10" twist rifle. The twist rate isn't very fast. The bore also appears to be a low groove count, but with the view it could be anywhere from 3 to 5 groove.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: jmsurra on March 17, 2016, 08:11:32 PM: You should call in the State Police or the Feds to investigate how (and why) the police could have been so incompetent that they lost a bullet that, by appearances, came through the window of a school and lodged in a wallboard. For a critical piece of evidence to be lost like that, you almost have to assume that it was done purposely; that somebody had something they wanted to hide.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Bullet in wall
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 17, 2016, 08:17:27 PM: "Lost It" ;) Probably theirs...or will turn up at one of their crime scenes that needs a planted bullet. :sry: