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Title: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on January 28, 2009, 10:22:16 PM
Lots of negative crap on here these days, so figured I'd get us thinking about more positive things...like hunt apps! Who's applying in AZ, UT or WY?  Where are you applying?

Decided to change tactics a bit and applied for units 1 and 3B (archery) in AZ...have a buddy with a cabin around there, and figured I'd rather hunt in the next few years than wait for an eternity before that unit 9 tag comes in the mail.  Anybody else?

Also applied for speed goats in AZ in the same general neighborhood.  It's a real longshot, but the rifle goat and archery elk seasons overlap by three days...wouldn't that be sweet.    ;)  I've got 8 points for both elk and goats, so there's a chance, although my odds for a goat hunt are only about 4%.

I decided to pass on Utah this year...decided I'm too far behind for the great hunts to ever draw, so might as well spend my cash where I can draw now and then.

I'll apply for WY points in the summer.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: heavy hauler on January 29, 2009, 07:27:59 AM
i have max points in wyoming. just buying points for a few more years.  archery elk and rifle mule deer in az.thats through the USO.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: norsepeak on January 29, 2009, 07:46:36 PM
I'm hitting Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, Ore. and Id.  At least if you draw, you potential for an awsome hunt is way higher.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Spooner on January 29, 2009, 08:03:31 PM
Got all three apps in.  Would love to draw any of them.  Hunted Wy. Elk last year. :drool:   Had a blast would love to do it again soon.  WAcousehunter 1 or 3b aren't any good you should pick another unit.  ;)
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: callthewild on January 29, 2009, 08:10:45 PM
speed goat,elk (max points) and deer for me in wyoming plus a moose point
utah points only
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: coyotemadness on January 29, 2009, 08:13:52 PM
WY!!!!!!  Deer and Pronghorn
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Bearhunter on January 29, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Got the Wy special draw app sent out yesterday, if odds hold true we will be hunting bulls in the cowboy state!
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: shanevg on January 29, 2009, 08:21:15 PM
WY elk points for sure, deer points (probably) and antelope points maybe. 

Anyone have any advice on antelope, I really just want to get one, I don't care about trophy quality.  What's the best place/way to do that?  What state should I apply for?  Are there any states with OTC rifle tags that are easy hunts? 
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Bookworm on January 29, 2009, 08:43:08 PM
Our group is gonna try and draw for Wyoming deer this year. I just hope we have enough points to draw.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: 280ackley on January 29, 2009, 08:45:25 PM
Points only for elk in Wyoming.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Elkstuffer on January 29, 2009, 10:13:53 PM
AZ elk and antelope, Utah points only for every species and WY points only for moose, deer, elk and antelope.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on January 29, 2009, 10:14:56 PM
WAcousehunter 1 or 3b aren't any good you should pick another unit.  ;)

No worries, I'm only looking for raghorns...they taste better.   :chuckle:  Heck, I've only got 8' ceilings anyway!

Honestly, my take is there's no less than 10 really good units...I've applied in 3A/3C, 8, 9, 10, and 23 over the years, but I switched it up this year because my buddy just bought a cabin in 3B.  Probably more 370+ bulls taken out of 9 than the others, but also the longest odds.  Seems 400 bulls can come from just about all of them.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: TheHunt on January 30, 2009, 08:41:34 AM
I am putting in for points in Wyoming, Nevada, Colorado.  I have a good number of points for Utah.  I always put in to Arizona just in case.   

I also put in for Washington of course.   If I come up empty I plan on hunting Idaho and if I get the right connection I will go to Oregon.

Should be rather exciting next five months.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: fc2038 on January 30, 2009, 06:40:16 PM
WYoming elk and(Max Points) and just putting in for points on deer. Points for elk in Oregon, and I am putting in for deer in Idaho still haven't decided if I want to get a elk tag. Probably not. If I do not draw for deer I will hunt whitetails in the panhandle!
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 30, 2009, 06:45:29 PM
Mo apps mo problems.........Well I'll will most likely apply or build points for everthing listed above this post and then some and draw none of it. :dunno:

Im praying for a Nevada Antelope tag this year, possibly ID OTC and I've got somthing else cooking thats on the down low.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Simsstaffshooter on January 30, 2009, 09:44:26 PM
Put in for Az. archery elk in units 1/2b/2c, 6, 8, 27 have six points. Wy max pionts elk for unit 31. and hunting parnters trying to talk me in to going back to NM for elk. :'(
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: zhunter on January 30, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Good luck to all if anybody draws AZ unit 6 or 8 i have great maps and a lot of stuff on my gps. hunted it alot lived there for 12 years and was lucky enough to draw some great tags...
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Bigshooter on January 31, 2009, 09:15:49 AM
Wyoming I am going to apply for points only for deer, elk, and antlope.
Arizona I applied for a couple of late rifle tags units 10 and 23.
Utah applied for deer, paunsagant management hunt.  Applied for a early muzzleloader hunt for elk.  And points only for desert sheep and antelope.

And there is a 99.999999999999999999999999999999% chance that I won't draw any.  But I still apply.

Tags that I hope that I draw are Montana deer elk combo.  Nevada antelope and maybe Nevada deer.  I think that I am going to apply for some of the early rifle seasons for deer.  With four points I will have decent odds.

Will see.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 31, 2009, 10:55:38 AM
WY points for elk, deer and antelope.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 31, 2009, 10:56:06 AM
Am debating whether to start building points in AZ, I don't need a great unit but a good hunt down there would be fun. 
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Bigshooter on February 02, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Any of you guys that applied for Arizona get there license back yet?
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 02, 2009, 03:54:49 PM
Nope, I applied pretty early too. (checks cashed by the 10th) :dunno:
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: tmike on February 02, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
Building my points back up in AZ. I think I'll have 5 or 6. Sent that off today. Utah will be either Book Cliffs Archery or points for deer. I have 4 there. I don't know if I'll even start on elk in Utah since they changed it.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: bowsandhose on February 02, 2009, 09:54:54 PM
got my AZ license in hand oh wait i bought it when i was down there  :chuckle: putting in for everything in AZ, and UT nothing in WY i think just elk and sheep in NM this year plus MT, ID, and WA. that should use up all my extra money for the year  :'(
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: poulsbo on February 03, 2009, 08:28:13 PM
i'll buy a point for WY. this year , i should be able to draw montana this year , idaho whitetails are my backup hunt this year.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 03, 2009, 11:51:43 PM
got my AZ license in hand oh wait i bought it when i was down there  :chuckle: putting in for everything in AZ, and UT nothing in WY i think just elk and sheep in NM this year plus MT, ID, and WA. that should use up all my extra money for the year  :'(

Will be really interesting to see what happens with the NM sheep odds...having to front $3K (new this year) versus an $8 app. fee in this economy should really improve the odds.  Still debating on that one myself.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: spin05 on February 04, 2009, 06:07:03 AM
How much up front is it to apply for deer/elk in wyoming???? What do you get back if not drawn....
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Elkstuffer on February 04, 2009, 11:51:13 AM
i'll buy a point for WY. this year , i should be able to draw montana this year , idaho whitetails are my backup hunt this year.

Idaho had a 75% winterkill last year on whitetails. Check with the biologist in the area that you want to hunt before planning a trip. I won't be going back for a couple years until the herd rebuilds. FYI
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Elkstuffer on February 04, 2009, 11:54:53 AM
Good luck to all if anybody draws AZ unit 6 or 8 i have great maps and a lot of stuff on my gps. hunted it alot lived there for 12 years and was lucky enough to draw some great tags...

Welcome to the site zhunter!

Do you know area 27 at all?
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Dansk on February 04, 2009, 07:31:16 PM
I'm not applying to AZ or UT- Points Only for WY Goats/Mulies/Elk.

Also on my app list:
CO Mulies
MT Deer/Elk Combo
NM Deer/Elk ... considering sheep and goats but I need to check the new app rules first.

...and of course all bigs in WA sans bear.

I haven't made the leap to the states that don't refund the liscense fee.... I'm taking the shotgun approach to the cheap states and building points where I can.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Basket Rack on February 05, 2009, 05:48:02 PM
I just sent in Utah elk, moose and starting this year deer with a change to their regs.  May have a chance at an  elk tag there according to there drawing statistics, I have quite a few points.

Montana combo is next and then wyoming points only elk and deer and colorado points only on deer and elk as well.

I am thinking about looking into Iowa whitetail as well.

Oh and washington of course but I have never drawn anything here.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: EastWaViking on February 06, 2009, 08:29:03 PM
WYO Deer and Antelope!!!!!


"He aimed his truck towards that Wyoming line....."
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: shanevg on February 06, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
I'm not applying to AZ or UT- Points Only for WY Goats/Mulies/Elk.

Also on my app list:
CO Mulies
MT Deer/Elk Combo
NM Deer/Elk ... considering sheep and goats but I need to check the new app rules first.

...and of course all bigs in WA sans bear.

I haven't made the leap to the states that don't refund the liscense fee.... I'm taking the shotgun approach to the cheap states and building points where I can.

Have fun building points for goat in Wyoming considering they don't have goat points LOL.  Otherwise sounds like a pretty good plan.  I wasn't aware that NM had goats.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: BC CHASER on February 06, 2009, 08:57:53 PM
Washington- Sheep,  goat, moose, elk and deer
Montana-  Elk, deer and antelope
Oregon-    Sheep, M. deer, C. whitetail and elk
New Mexico-    B. sheep, D. sheep, deer hd, elk hd and ibex
Utah-    D. sheep and deer
Wyoming-   Deer sl
Nevada-    R. sheep, C. sheep, D. sheep, deer and elk
Arizona-    Deer, elk and sheep
California-  T. elk, D. sheep and deer
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 07, 2009, 01:15:18 PM
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Have fun building points for goat in Wyoming considering they don't have goat points LOL.

They have speed goats and so does New Mexico ;)
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: shanevg on February 07, 2009, 01:30:20 PM
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Have fun building points for goat in Wyoming considering they don't have goat points LOL.

They have speed goats and so does New Mexico ;)

Yeah, well I'm going by more technical names: Pronghorn vs. (Mountain) Goat  :P
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: spin05 on February 07, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
So the way i read it is in Idaho you have to buy a hunting license to apply for the special permits.Is this correct????
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: boneaddict on February 07, 2009, 01:48:10 PM
YES
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: boneaddict on February 07, 2009, 01:48:50 PM
you are soon to be parted with about $163 to apply for one OIL OR deer and elk. 
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 07, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
Idaho's definitely not making it any more appealing with the way they are raising prices :twocents:
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: EastWaViking on February 07, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
Washington- Sheep,  goat, moose, elk and deer
Montana-  Elk, deer and antelope
Oregon-    Sheep, M. deer, C. whitetail and elk
New Mexico-    B. sheep, D. sheep, deer hd, elk hd and ibex
Utah-    D. sheep and deer
Wyoming-   Deer sl
Nevada-    R. sheep, C. sheep, D. sheep, deer and elk
Arizona-    Deer, elk and sheep
California-  T. elk, D. sheep and deer


Too bad you are so limited in your hunting options!   :P
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Dansk on February 08, 2009, 08:04:16 PM
I'm not applying to AZ or UT- Points Only for WY Goats/Mulies/Elk.

Also on my app list:
CO Mulies
MT Deer/Elk Combo
NM Deer/Elk ... considering sheep and goats but I need to check the new app rules first.

...and of course all bigs in WA sans bear.

I haven't made the leap to the states that don't refund the liscense fee.... I'm taking the shotgun approach to the cheap states and building points where I can.

Have fun building points for goat in Wyoming considering they don't have goat points LOL.  Otherwise sounds like a pretty good plan.  I wasn't aware that NM had goats.

Hmmm... I thought NM and WY were the best states in the west for goats....  :dunno:  I mean, with all that flat, wide open prarie land..... where did all the SPEED goats go???? :chuckle:  Sorry Shane- couldn't resist.  My grandpa always called antelope prarie goats, speed goats, but most of the time just 'goats'. 
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 08, 2009, 08:14:45 PM
yea that damn Az tag is going to be expensive by the time U get drawn!!!
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Dansk on February 08, 2009, 08:35:47 PM
Washington- Sheep,  goat, moose, elk and deer
Montana-  Elk, deer and antelope
Oregon-    Sheep, M. deer, C. whitetail and elk
New Mexico-    B. sheep, D. sheep, deer hd, elk hd and ibex
Utah-    D. sheep and deer
Wyoming-   Deer sl
Nevada-    R. sheep, C. sheep, D. sheep, deer and elk
Arizona-    Deer, elk and sheep
California-  T. elk, D. sheep and deer


BC - so... just curious... how often do you draw even 1 tag per year?  I mean you must be dropping a grand or more on nonrefundable liscenses in 5 of those states, and paying tag fees in accross the board... is it worth it?  
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: BC CHASER on February 08, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
Have drawn Mt. combo and antelope and Az. coues.  You only live once so do what you love to do.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 09, 2009, 06:52:28 AM
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is it worth it?

Depends.........Can you spend several thousand dollars a year on hunting licences you don't use and not have the wife get pissed?

Are you willing to do it every year for the next 30 years?

Are you willing to Front 10-15K worth of tag fees every year?

Are you willing to do it knowing that you will most likely never draw some of the tags you apply for?

If the answer is yes.........then its worth it.

Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: BC CHASER on February 09, 2009, 07:16:38 AM
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is it worth it?

Depends.........Can you spend several thousand dollars a year on hunting licences you don't use and not have the wife get pissed?

Are you willing to do it every year for the next 30 years?

Are you willing to Front 10-15K worth of tag fees every year?

Are you willing to do it knowing that you will most likely never draw some of the tags you apply for?

If the answer is yes.........then its worth it.



Well said.  I can afford to put in for all of these and know that some I will never draw.  I do not play lotto or go to casinos so this is my gambling!  Like I said before you only live once and in 30 years I do not want to kick myself for not putting in for all of these tags.


Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: TheHunt on February 10, 2009, 11:13:34 AM
For elk hunting, I am sorry that the fronting of huge amounts of money is not true...

Colorado, Utah is chump change...  That includes a bonus point

Arizona is about 700 dollars that you get back all but about 160 dollars to purchase a bonus point.  You flushing about 6 X 160 + intrest = 1100 dollars some of the top areas will cost you 10 years.  So now your into it about 1800 dollars.  But your still ahead of the game...

Nevada is about 1300 dollars for the license and tag to put in....  Biggest money for elk. But you get a huge chunk of money back.

Idaho is roughly 500 dollars and your bonus area is going to cost you chump change.  But this state is should kill all wolves and griz in the entire state.

Oregon is a cheap state to put in for but they suck like Idaho... Tooooooooo many liberals taking office over there.   Can be had for rougly 500 bucks and bonus points are chump change. 

Montana for a combo is 800 dollars there is a bonus point fee of chump change. 


To focus on Colorado, Utah, Arizona you would be in for 750 dollars but would get back a little over 500 dollars if you were not successful.  I think you could put in for some nice hunts for 1500 dollars.  This economy that money will go along way with a family out of work.

Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: bowsandhose on February 10, 2009, 01:39:15 PM
WOW thehunt i guess if i had your money i would burn mine  :chuckle:
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: colockumelk on February 10, 2009, 02:42:02 PM
This year I'm putting in for a Montana elk/deer combo.  First time I've ever hunted out of state other than mule deer on Camp Pendleton, CA.  (doesn't count) 

I have a question.  I thought Colorado and New Mexico was an over the counter tag for elk an deer, was I mistaken or do you only have to get drawn if you are a non-resident.  Also how much does it cost for an out of state Colorado or an out of state NM tag.  If I don't get drawn how much if any do I get back.  Thank you.  I'm also referring to elk and deer only. 
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: Basket Rack on February 10, 2009, 07:51:05 PM
Can't speak for New Mexico but much of western Colorado is over the counter tags for residents and non residents for both deer and elk.  There are though a number of limited entry units for deer and elk which is what I and probably most on this thread are building bonus points for in the hope of one day accumulating enough points to draw.
Title: Re: AZ, UT or WY applicants?
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on February 10, 2009, 08:12:36 PM
   WY. is already sent off for elk, points for deer later, Was Drawn Last year in WY., scored on a nice 5x6 archery bull, OR.,WA. of course, AZ., N.M., good luck on the draws guys!  :P
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