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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: bugs n bones on March 23, 2016, 05:43:24 PM
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Curiosity poll
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Just used my 16. Will stay at 0.
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I enjoyed that poll
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line :chuckle:
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line :chuckle:
I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.
I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line :chuckle:
I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.
I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line :chuckle:
I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.
I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:
On a slightly more serious note: I won't ask what tag you're holding out for, but I could never hold my chips that long. I draw about ever 6-7 years and have a great hunt....... just not a premiere hunt like you're lined up for.
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12. Hoping for Wenaha before I'm too slow to hunt it.
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8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
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8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
I am in the same boat. That's the only thing I don't like about how they split up the categories. If I knew it was coming I wouldn't of been applying for cow permitts. Just wanted to get my first elk
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If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
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12. Hoping for Wenaha before I'm too slow to hunt it.
I've been hoping for the wenaha since I had 8 points, I now have 20, will have 21.
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If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
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0. Never have, never will
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If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
That's not correct. Applicants with five points drew the most permits in 2014.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php)
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Happy to say
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If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
That's not correct. Applicants with five points drew the most permits in 2014.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php)
Ok dude. You win. Wait you lose...people with 5 points did not draw more tags than people with 10-15 points...I win. Really it's just a losing game if you look at the odds. Just put in your money/points and pray :)
I was talking in general and I was really just talking about the 19 hunts for which I normally look at the numbers. Which do not include the piles of guys that draw peaches, observatory, etc archery tags with their quality points. I also personally believe that 5 points is the best number with which to draw (I did in 2011).
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7 points for me.
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10 Quality Elk
10 Quality Deer
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8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
I am in the same boat. That's the only thing I don't like about how they split up the categories. If I knew it was coming I wouldn't of been applying for cow permitts. Just wanted to get my first elk
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Same here. I drew a cow permit the year before the split. :bash:
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16 elk 16 goat
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its a factor when you pick your friends .....
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its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder. :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!
How many points you got... Buddy? :tung:
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I have 3
I did get a Toutle tag with 2 points in 2011
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160324%2F2e1a9c89d8a02f12b081f025038460a4.jpg&hash=733f880f6179d6c4136b048114fd0bff9e3d85fe)
My brother has the luck. It seems he gets a tag every year.
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2016: 5
lucky to have drawn the any bull tag 3x for my fave GMU, since any bull tag implemented.
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10 for me. Hoping to draw before I'm too old to remember why I applied in the first place.
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8 for me.
Points are no guarantee but the math proves you have a better mathematical chance with more points.
OIL hunts are all together a different category since everybody stays in until they draw
Which makes it really tough draw odds.
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Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
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Looks like majority are drawn between 10-15 points..would be interesting to see how this has changed over the years
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6 for me in both bull category's and 0 in the cow category
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Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
23 for both is pretty good, two poachers caught! I had 20 last year for my bull permit and missed it by 1 tag, I was the first loser for that tag. Counting on it this year but you never know, good luck.
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Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
You win for "bull"... :chuckle:
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Having 20+ points is no assurance of drawing a quality permit because of the large number of applicants with fewer points.
The following graph depicts the “number of names in the hat” for the Dayton modern permit hunt 2006 in 2014. There were two applicants with 22 points. Each one had 484 (22 squared) names in the hat; together they had 968 names in the hat.
There were 61 applicants with 11 points each. Each had 121 names in the hat so the total number of names in the hat by applicants with 11 points was 7,381.
It is therefore evident that it is more likely that someone from the pool of 61 applicants with 11 points will draw than someone from the pool of two applicants with 22 points, simply because there are so many more of them.
The other fact to consider is that draw odds for applicants with fewer points increase at a more rapid rate than applicants with more points. Someone with one point has one name in the hat, but next year he will have four: a 300% increase. Conversely, the applicant with 22 points has 484 names in the hat this year, and 529 next year: an increase of only 9%.
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Backnat 0, drew permit last year with 4 points.
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16 quality elk,16 bull elk,(glad I never applied for cow permits back in the day), 7 quality deer,12 any Moose. Gotta be gettin close to somethin good right !?!? So painful.....just try not to think about it too much
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Back at zero this year. But I got a good bull to show for it!
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after submitted will have 11
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QB. 0
B. 1
Starting over :tup:
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My points are like birthdays, ever year I get one and the number just keeps getting bigger.
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I enjoyed that poll
Get out of here with your 25 points! We don't need your kind around here!
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its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder. :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!
How many points you got... Buddy? :tung:
Coach doesn't like to build up too many point, so he draws every other year :chuckle:
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18 Quality Bull this year.
No hopes in drawing, but the name goes in the pot.
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I will have 21 in the bull catagory!
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its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder. :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!
How many points you got... Buddy? :tung:
Coach doesn't like to build up too many point, so he draws every other year :chuckle:
He must be due then... I better get him my wild Id to get in on his app! :chuckle:
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Oh yeah I'm due .....willing to jump on Bull if you have ten or more ..lol
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Q-5
B-9
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Oh yeah I'm due .....willing to jump on Bull if you have ten or more ..lol
Is 2 close enough? :chuckle:
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:hello: :hello: :hello: :hello: Need a hunting partner to apply with? :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line :chuckle:
I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.
I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:
On a slightly more serious note: I won't ask what tag you're holding out for, but I could never hold my chips that long. I draw about ever 6-7 years and have a great hunt....... just not a premiere hunt like you're lined up for.
Sorry, just saw this. I will be 31 this year, and I should have 21 points but I missed a couple years. Ghost pointed a few years throughout where I knew I wouldn't have the time to hunt, but i have always applied for the hard to draw tags. Once I draw, I will probably start applying for ones you can draw more frequently. I also have 19 in the Bull category. I have drawn two cow tags since the change in 2010 though, Toutle with 13, and Umtanum last year with 5.
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I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup. :bash: :chuckle:
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I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup. :bash: :chuckle:
god I hope it's not s muzzy tag!!!! :chuckle:
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I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup. :bash: :chuckle:
god I hope it's not s muzzy tag!!!! :chuckle:
That cut me deep! :'(
But no it won't be a muzzy tag! :chuckle:
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15 quality bull
15 bull
15 quality deer
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Sadly I'm at zero for quality bull now, but I was lucky enough to draw a great bull tag last year and kill a gooden. Surprising how many on here with so many points. I drew with 11 I believe.
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11 quality elk
13 quality deer
9 goat
:dunno: still got my fingers crossed had a buddy draw a moose tag with 8 and another draw a goat tag with 9. cant draw if you dont put in.
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14 bull and quality 3 for cow
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15 for quality and bull 5 for cow this year.
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12 this year drew a Peaches ridge tag in 2003 just before my oldest son was born have not drawn since and he will be 12 this year. Had a satellite phone that I checked every morning and night for messages as well as calling home every night to make sure no baby trying to make his way out. :chuckle:
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Used my 9 2 years ago and thought I would not re-enter but low and behold I now have 2 again :yike:
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11 Quality Elk
9 Bull Elk
1 Antlerless Elk
Probably going for all points this year.
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I have 13 bull, 10 quality, and 10 cow... Hoping for atleast a cow tag, it is getting ridiculous lol
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34 guality elk
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9 Quality Elk
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13 quality elk/6 quality deer
5 bull/13 buck
3 cow
13 sheep, goat, moose
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34 guality elk
:dunno:
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9 quality elk, lucky enough to have pulled a Rim Rock Muzz and Observatory Muzz tag in the past. Both great tags for Muzzy but there is now a much better one :)
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15
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34 guality elk
Man did you get lucky and turn in a couple poachers?
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Yep
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Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
You may for Quality but not for Bull. I have 25.