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Title: Quality Elk points
Post by: bugs n bones on March 23, 2016, 05:43:24 PM
Curiosity poll
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 23, 2016, 08:33:41 PM
Just used my 16.  Will stay at 0.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 23, 2016, 08:59:07 PM
I enjoyed that poll
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Antlershed on March 23, 2016, 09:47:01 PM
19
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Dan-o on March 23, 2016, 09:50:08 PM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Antlershed on March 23, 2016, 09:51:40 PM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Dan-o on March 23, 2016, 10:00:20 PM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line  :chuckle:

I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.

I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Antlershed on March 23, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line  :chuckle:

I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.

I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Dan-o on March 23, 2016, 10:09:50 PM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line  :chuckle:

I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.

I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:

On a slightly more serious note:   I won't ask what tag you're holding out for, but I could never hold my chips that long.   I draw about ever 6-7 years and have a great hunt.......   just not a premiere hunt like you're lined up for.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Shawn Ryan on March 23, 2016, 10:11:38 PM
12. Hoping for Wenaha before I'm too slow to hunt it.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: bobcat on March 23, 2016, 10:15:28 PM
8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: emac on March 23, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
I am in the same boat. That's the only thing I don't like about how they split up the categories. If I knew it was coming I wouldn't of been applying for cow permitts. Just wanted to get my first elk

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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: King Krok on March 24, 2016, 05:28:30 AM
18


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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 24, 2016, 05:33:10 AM
If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: trophyhunt on March 24, 2016, 06:35:02 AM
12. Hoping for Wenaha before I'm too slow to hunt it.
I've been hoping for the wenaha since I had 8 points, I now have 20, will have 21.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: trophyhunt on March 24, 2016, 06:35:30 AM
If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Dhoey07 on March 24, 2016, 06:51:43 AM
0.  Never have, never will
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Bob33 on March 24, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
That's not correct. Applicants with five points drew the most permits in 2014.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php)
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: SkookumHntr on March 24, 2016, 08:00:46 AM
0
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Gringo31 on March 24, 2016, 08:46:13 AM
Happy to say

0
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 24, 2016, 08:46:47 AM
If'n it makes ya'll feel better, most of the tags are drawn by people with 10-15 points...then again that's only because there so many people in that group...your odds are still horrible. Have a nice day :hello:
:yeah: That is a fact!
That's not correct. Applicants with five points drew the most permits in 2014.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2014.php)
Ok dude. You win. Wait you lose...people with 5 points did not draw more tags than people with 10-15 points...I win. Really it's just a losing game if you look at the odds. Just put in your money/points and pray :)
I was talking in general and I was really just talking about the 19 hunts for which I normally look at the numbers. Which do not include the piles of guys that draw peaches, observatory, etc archery tags with their quality points. I also personally believe that 5 points is the best number with which to draw (I did in 2011).
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 24, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
7 points for me.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: jstone on March 24, 2016, 09:32:32 AM
10 Quality Elk
10 Quality Deer
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: grundy53 on March 24, 2016, 10:02:14 AM
8 points for me, should be more but I drew a cow permit back in 2007, which was just a couple years before they split the permits into all the new categories we now have.
I am in the same boat. That's the only thing I don't like about how they split up the categories. If I knew it was coming I wouldn't of been applying for cow permitts. Just wanted to get my first elk

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Same here. I drew a cow permit the year before the split. :bash:

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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: bowhunterty on March 24, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
16 elk 16 goat
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: coachcw on March 24, 2016, 12:21:27 PM
its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 24, 2016, 12:26:37 PM
its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder.  :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!

How many points you got... Buddy?  :tung:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Casey on March 24, 2016, 04:23:25 PM
I have 3 

I did get a Toutle tag with 2 points in 2011

 (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160324%2F2e1a9c89d8a02f12b081f025038460a4.jpg&hash=733f880f6179d6c4136b048114fd0bff9e3d85fe)

My brother has the luck. It seems he gets a tag every year.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: MAVsled on March 24, 2016, 06:21:14 PM
2016: 5

lucky to have drawn the any bull tag 3x for my fave GMU, since any bull tag implemented.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mark251 on March 24, 2016, 09:25:10 PM
10 for me.  Hoping to draw before I'm too old to remember why I applied in the first place.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Falcon on March 24, 2016, 09:33:32 PM
8 for me. 

Points are no guarantee but the math proves you have a better mathematical chance with more points.
OIL hunts are all together a different category since everybody stays in until they draw
Which makes it really tough draw odds. 
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: fireguy459 on March 24, 2016, 09:59:37 PM
Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: kentrek on March 24, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
Looks like majority are drawn between 10-15 points..would be interesting to see how this has changed over the years
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Bow tech hunter on March 25, 2016, 05:33:31 AM
6 for me in both bull category's and 0 in the cow category
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: trophyhunt on March 25, 2016, 06:37:23 AM
Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
23 for both is pretty good, two poachers caught!  I had 20 last year for my bull permit and missed it by 1 tag, I was the first loser for that tag. Counting on it this year but you never know, good luck.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 25, 2016, 10:03:56 AM
Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
You win for "bull"... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Bob33 on March 25, 2016, 10:42:09 AM
Having 20+ points is no assurance of drawing a quality permit because of the large number of applicants with fewer points.

The following graph depicts the “number of names in the hat” for the Dayton modern permit hunt 2006 in 2014. There were two applicants with 22 points.  Each one had 484 (22 squared) names in the hat; together they had 968 names in the hat.

There were 61 applicants with 11 points each. Each had 121 names in the hat so the total number of names in the hat by applicants with 11 points was 7,381.

It is therefore evident that it is more likely that someone from the pool of 61 applicants with 11 points will draw than someone from the pool of two applicants with 22 points, simply because there are so many more of them.

The other fact to consider is that draw odds for applicants with fewer points increase at a more rapid rate than applicants with more points. Someone with one point has one name in the hat, but next year he will have four: a 300% increase. Conversely, the applicant with 22 points has 484 names in the hat this year, and 529 next year: an increase of only 9%.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Firedogg on March 25, 2016, 10:47:37 AM
Backnat 0, drew permit last year with 4 points.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: jeffitz on March 25, 2016, 09:38:39 PM
16 quality elk,16 bull elk,(glad I never applied for cow permits back in the day), 7 quality deer,12 any Moose. Gotta be gettin close to somethin good right !?!?   So  painful.....just try not to think about it too much
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: JoeE on March 25, 2016, 09:54:16 PM
Back at zero this year. But I got a good bull to show for it!
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: wheels on March 25, 2016, 11:11:42 PM
after submitted will have 11
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: 400gross on March 26, 2016, 07:01:27 AM
                             QB. 0
                              B.   1
Starting over  :tup:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 26, 2016, 07:05:05 AM
My points are like birthdays, ever year I get one and the number just keeps getting bigger.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 26, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
I enjoyed that poll
Get out of here with your 25 points!  We don't need your kind around here!
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 26, 2016, 07:13:45 AM
its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder.  :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!

How many points you got... Buddy?  :tung:
  Coach doesn't like to build up too many point, so he draws every other year :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Timberstalker on March 26, 2016, 07:33:34 AM
18 Quality Bull this year.
No hopes in drawing, but the name goes in the pot.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: SkookumHntr on March 26, 2016, 08:40:12 AM
I will have 21 in the bull catagory!
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 26, 2016, 08:44:42 AM
its a factor when you pick your friends .....
Good call! Both times I have drawn elk permits I've been the higher point holder.  :chuckle: maybe I need better friends!

How many points you got... Buddy?  :tung:
  Coach doesn't like to build up too many point, so he draws every other year :chuckle:
He must be due then... I better get him my wild Id to get in on his app!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: coachcw on March 26, 2016, 09:09:35 AM
Oh yeah I'm due .....willing to jump on Bull if you have ten or more ..lol
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: stew pidasso on March 26, 2016, 09:18:53 AM
Q-5
B-9
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 26, 2016, 09:30:29 AM
Oh yeah I'm due .....willing to jump on Bull if you have ten or more ..lol
Is 2 close enough?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Antlershed on March 26, 2016, 10:01:54 AM
19


 :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:  Need a hunting partner to apply with?     :hello: :hello: :hello: :hello:
Get in line  :chuckle:

I'm a terrific elk hunting partner, just ask me.

I'll even give you first shot unless I see it first.
:chuckle:

On a slightly more serious note:   I won't ask what tag you're holding out for, but I could never hold my chips that long.   I draw about ever 6-7 years and have a great hunt.......   just not a premiere hunt like you're lined up for.
Sorry, just saw this. I will be 31 this year, and I should have 21 points but I missed a couple years. Ghost pointed a few years throughout where I knew I wouldn't have the time to hunt, but i have always applied for the hard to draw tags. Once I draw, I will probably start applying for ones you can draw more frequently. I also have 19 in the Bull category. I have drawn two cow tags since the change in 2010 though, Toutle with 13, and Umtanum last year with 5.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 26, 2016, 11:41:12 AM
I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup.  :bash:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 26, 2016, 12:03:16 PM
I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup.  :bash:  :chuckle:
god I hope it's not s muzzy tag!!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 26, 2016, 12:15:34 PM
I got a bunch of cow points im hoping to unload this year. Just need to decide on a hunt and be lucky enough to draw! See if I can keep my streak of drawing permits and eating tag soup.  :bash:  :chuckle:
god I hope it's not s muzzy tag!!!! :chuckle:
That cut me deep!  :'(

But no it won't be a muzzy tag!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: xwizard50 on March 27, 2016, 08:39:53 PM
15 quality bull
15 bull
15 quality deer
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: E-Town Hunter on April 05, 2016, 03:12:56 PM
Sadly I'm at zero for quality bull now, but I was lucky enough to draw a great bull tag last year and kill a gooden. Surprising how many on here with so many points. I drew with 11 I believe.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: throttlejocky20 on April 08, 2016, 07:41:50 AM
11 quality elk
13 quality deer
9 goat
 :dunno: still got my fingers crossed had a buddy draw a moose tag with 8 and another draw a goat tag with 9. cant draw if you dont put in.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: wackmaster on April 28, 2016, 09:33:44 PM
14 bull and quality 3 for cow


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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: 180-GRAIN on April 29, 2016, 06:24:23 AM
15 for quality and bull 5 for cow this year.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: RB on April 29, 2016, 07:20:42 AM
12 this year drew a Peaches ridge tag in 2003 just before my oldest son was born have not drawn since and he will be 12 this year. Had a satellite phone that I checked every morning and night for messages as well as calling home every night to make sure no baby trying to make his way out.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Elkterd on April 29, 2016, 10:55:45 AM
Used my 9  2 years ago and thought I would not re-enter but low and behold I now have 2 again  :yike:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: RatRodMike on April 29, 2016, 03:57:11 PM
11 Quality Elk
9   Bull Elk
1   Antlerless Elk

Probably going for all points this year.
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: crabcreekhunter on April 29, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
I have 13 bull, 10 quality, and 10 cow... Hoping for atleast a cow tag, it is getting ridiculous lol
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Pny365 on May 03, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
34 guality elk
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: PAW66 on May 03, 2016, 08:42:42 PM
9 Quality Elk
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Jimmy33 on May 03, 2016, 09:06:41 PM
13 quality elk/6 quality deer
5 bull/13 buck
3 cow
13 sheep, goat, moose


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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: mfswallace on May 03, 2016, 10:34:53 PM
34 guality elk

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on May 04, 2016, 06:18:42 PM
9 quality elk, lucky enough to have pulled a Rim Rock Muzz and Observatory Muzz tag in the past.  Both great tags for Muzzy but there is now a much better one :) 
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Mossyoak on May 04, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
15
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: 180-GRAIN on May 05, 2016, 07:25:57 AM
34 guality elk

Man did you get lucky and turn in a couple poachers?
Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Pny365 on May 05, 2016, 07:26:41 AM
Yep


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Title: Re: Quality Elk points
Post by: Deer slayer on May 10, 2016, 08:43:19 PM

Do I win at 23 for bull and quality bull?!!! It's actually sad when draw results come out for bull and I have not drawn with 60 tags or so. Pretty sure I'm number 1 in points for the unit.
You may for Quality but not for Bull. I have 25.
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