Post by: bod on March 27, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: sled on March 27, 2016, 07:48:17 PM
Post by: 2labs on March 27, 2016, 07:51:16 PM
Post by: Mfowl on March 27, 2016, 07:53:29 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on March 27, 2016, 07:56:58 PM
Post by: bod on March 27, 2016, 08:00:21 PM
Post by: lewy on March 27, 2016, 08:03:10 PM
Post by: 2labs on March 27, 2016, 08:05:25 PM
Gillnetting in Banks again? Snagging walleyes out of Moses again? What resource is being pilfered this time?
Hey, you forgot gill netting in Lenore!
Post by: Mfowl on March 27, 2016, 08:06:37 PM
Sorry I wasn't very specific east side Rufus Woods Roosevelt that area any fish they catch.
I don't know anything specifically about this but I would not be shocked if it is true. That region has had several instances of game violations by Eastern European individuals.
Post by: bod on March 27, 2016, 08:08:54 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on March 27, 2016, 08:39:12 PM
Anything they can rape and pillageyep they sure are
Post by: Skillet on March 27, 2016, 08:39:56 PM
If this really bothers you, you might want to contact Grant County Prosecutor Dano and request that fish and game violations be aggressively prosecuted. He is a reasonable guy, a hunter and fisherman himself, and the last time I spoke with him (regarding the terrible plea deals on the Banks Lake whitefish/Lemoore cutthroat netting) he assured me he inherited that situation (recently elected at the time), but was cleaning house and will address future game and fish violations as the thefts they represent. Remind him of the failures to prosecute the gillnettings and ask if he's made changes to prevent that from happening again.
Of course, he can't prosecute a rumor - they've got to get caught first. That's on WDFW Enforcement - and they can't catch easily poachers without leads...
:twocents:
Post by: bod on March 27, 2016, 08:43:21 PM
Post by: Skillet on March 27, 2016, 08:44:41 PM
I'm not kidding about that.
Post by: Badhabit on March 27, 2016, 08:47:12 PM
Post by: 2labs on March 27, 2016, 08:49:45 PM
Post by: bod on March 27, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
Post by: Skillet on March 27, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
Dano is a poser. Imo he couldn't succeed in private practice so he got into politics. I was a witness for the prosecutionon ine of his cases he was trying as a defense atty. He was unprepared imo.Well, that's not so good. I do know he sent Deputy Prosecutor Santiago packing after the Banks gillnettings plea deal. Doubt it was a direct result of that failure, but it happened and he can point to it if questioned. Hoping continued pressure will help.
Post by: Skillet on March 27, 2016, 08:59:28 PM
Too old to be scrappinWouldnt recommend it. Just keep the WDFW Enforcement number handy, call it when you see an obvious violation.
Post by: PolarBear on March 27, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
Post by: huntnphool on March 27, 2016, 09:31:34 PM
Post by: sled on March 27, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Post by: rainshadow1 on March 27, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on March 27, 2016, 11:10:38 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 27, 2016, 11:33:29 PM
That number is only operable Mon-Fri 8A-5P.Too old to be scrappinWouldnt recommend it. Just keep the WDFW Enforcement number handy, call it when you see an obvious violation.
The best number is that of the local WSP office since they dispatch WDFW 24/7/365. Numbers are in the regs.
Post by: Big6bull on March 28, 2016, 12:50:47 PM
Post by: Rick on March 28, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
Sorry I wasn't very specific east side Rufus Woods Roosevelt that area any fish they catch.
I've seen it first hand on Rufus. Probably 5 years ago my brother and I watched a couple dudes that sounded Russian keep probably 30-40 triploids.
They were stuffing them in every empty spot they could find in their boat. Not much for cell service down there so we had to wait until we got back to civilization to contact LEO. I'm sure by then,they were long gone.
Post by: vandeman17 on March 28, 2016, 06:14:14 PM
Post by: Hard2handle on March 28, 2016, 07:26:39 PM
Post by: T-Bone on March 30, 2016, 07:46:16 AM
At Sprague Lake in E.WA, Russian fishermen regularly take over their limit in both quantity and size. I've made a good local Game Warden aware of the problem.
A good part of the problem is cultural; they come from a political system so corrupt that the only way to get anything is to cheat, steal and lie.
Post by: dscubame on March 30, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
Post by: bod on March 30, 2016, 08:03:59 AM
dscubame GFY
Post by: C-Money on March 30, 2016, 08:05:22 AM
More hunt wa racism.
Sounds like a discussion on wildlife violations.
Post by: dscubame on March 30, 2016, 08:08:48 AM
More hunt wa racism.
Sounds like a discussion on wildlife violations.
Agree that much of it is.
Post by: dscubame on March 30, 2016, 08:16:57 AM
Post by: T-Bone on March 30, 2016, 09:05:43 AM
Post by: PolarBear on March 30, 2016, 09:11:34 AM
More hunt wa racism.Was wondering how long it would take for that card to hit the table. :rolleyes:
Post by: grundy53 on March 30, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
OK so racism is perhaps a little strong. I'll call it more hunt wa cultural bashing and the Russians are up this time around. Natives on deck.Are they bashing their culture or their disregard for our regulations/laws?
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Post by: Lincoln4 on March 30, 2016, 09:21:13 AM
At Lake Padden near Bellingham, I would watch the Russians catch trout after trout and put them on a stringer in the bushes. Periodically, an old Russian woman would walk up to the bush and empty the stringer into a bucket and depart/return/depart. A WDFW Agent basically gave me a shoulder shrug and told me his frustration in getting the all too liberal local legal bench to take these violations seriously.
I saw the same situation at Alta Lake a couple of years ago. There were six guys sitting on the bank all day long for several days while we were there. Catching fish after fish and putting them on a stringer. Every hours or so a woman from their camp would walk down and collect the fish in Wal-Mart bags and take them back up to one of the trailers parked behind our spot. The women folk would then process them outside the trailer. Crazy. Hundreds of fish. Couldn't get the LEO park ranger to do anything about it. Does the fact that they were speaking a slavic language make me racist? I could say they were english speaking New Yorkers, but that would be a lie.
Post by: bhawley76 on March 30, 2016, 09:54:10 AM
More hunt wa racism.A spade is a spade.
Post by: theleo on March 30, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
More hunt wa racism.That's a dumb comment, Russians aren't a race unto themselves. Stereotyping is more like it, but if your going to play the racism card don't be so lackadaisical about it.
Post by: h20hunter on March 30, 2016, 10:41:19 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 30, 2016, 10:47:28 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 30, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
Post by: T-Bone on March 30, 2016, 10:54:34 AM
At Lake Padden near Bellingham, I would watch the Russians catch trout after trout and put them on a stringer in the bushes. Periodically, an old Russian woman would walk up to the bush and empty the stringer into a bucket and depart/return/depart. A WDFW Agent basically gave me a shoulder shrug and told me his frustration in getting the all too liberal local legal bench to take these violations seriously.
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I saw the same situation at Alta Lake a couple of years ago. There were six guys sitting on the bank all day long for several days while we were there. Catching fish after fish and putting them on a stringer. Every hours or so a woman from their camp would walk down and collect the fish in Wal-Mart bags and take them back up to one of the trailers parked behind our spot. The women folk would then process them outside the trailer. Crazy. Hundreds of fish. Couldn't get the LEO park ranger to do anything about it. Does the fact that they were speaking a slavic language make me racist? I could say they were english speaking New Yorkers, but that would be a lie.
This group maybe a traveling troupe of poachers as after moving to E.WA, I recognized several of the same individuals doing an all night fish-in at the Badger Lake Public Access South of Cheney a few years ago.
Post by: huntnphool on March 30, 2016, 11:36:49 AM
More hunt wa racism.That's a dumb comment, Russians aren't a race unto themselves. Stereotyping is more like it, but if your going to play the racism card don't be so lackadaisical about it.
But being labeled as a "stereotypist" won't shut people up as fast as being called a racist.
Clearly their are those on this forum that follow the Saul Alinsky playbook.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 30, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: h20hunter on March 30, 2016, 12:03:26 PM
Post by: theleo on March 30, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
Calling someone a racist in a conversation that is not about a race of people makes you look like an idiot. If you think it shuts people up it's only because they prefer to not have conversations with idiots. You don't prove anything but your lack of the English language.More hunt wa racism.That's a dumb comment, Russians aren't a race unto themselves. Stereotyping is more like it, but if your going to play the racism card don't be so lackadaisical about it.
But being labeled as a "stereotypist" won't shut people up as fast as being called a racist.
Clearly their are those on this forum that follow the Saul Alinsky playbook.
I've known Russian's (generalizing as Slavic speaking folks) that abide by the law and those that don't. I've known good old country boys that are just the same. The worst group I know of for poaching and game violations are normally locals (not all the locals of the area but a small percentage) of any given area that believe the animals in the area belong to them because that's where those people were born and raised.
Post by: huntnphool on March 30, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Calling someone a racist in a conversation that is not about a race of people makes you look like an idiot. If you think it shuts people up it's only because they prefer to not have conversations with idiots. You don't prove anything but your lack of the English language.More hunt wa racism.That's a dumb comment, Russians aren't a race unto themselves. Stereotyping is more like it, but if your going to play the racism card don't be so lackadaisical about it.
But being labeled as a "stereotypist" won't shut people up as fast as being called a racist.
Clearly their are those on this forum that follow the Saul Alinsky playbook.
I've known Russian's (generalizing as Slavic speaking folks) that abide by the law and those that don't. I've known good old country boys that are just the same. The worst group I know of for poaching and game violations are normally locals (not all the locals of the area but a small percentage) of any given area that believe the animals in the area belong to them because that's where those people were born and raised.
Agreed
Post by: Lincoln4 on March 30, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
But since it has now been thread-jacked... If you want an equal opportunity illegal hunting/fishing thread, start your own... Peace out... :tup: :hello:
Post by: metlhead on March 30, 2016, 06:58:44 PM
Post by: 2labs on March 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Spot on T-Bone with the political system they come from
dscubame GFY
Agree!
Post by: ribka on March 30, 2016, 08:42:17 PM
OK so racism is perhaps a little strong. I'll call it more hunt wa cultural bashing and the Russians are up this time around. Natives on deck.
ever worked or lived overseas?
I worked in the fsu ( former Soviet Union) 4 years and speak fluent Russian, decent Ukrainian and decent Serbo Croatian
Your statement was juvenile
I lived speak fluent Russian and fished and hunted in Russia Ukraine Kazakhstan kyrgistan for 4 yeArs
Poaching is very much of their cultural heritage
Same with China Cambodia Laos
Post by: 2labs on March 30, 2016, 08:46:49 PM
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