Post by: tgray on April 04, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on April 04, 2016, 05:09:54 PM
Post by: tgray on April 04, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
A different deal came along for me though so I am no longer going to buy this anyway. So if anybody is looking for this particular scope, PM me and I will give you the guys phone number, he is in the Renton Kent area
Post by: Bean Counter on April 04, 2016, 06:11:11 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on April 04, 2016, 06:30:38 PM
I haven't looked through any vortex riflescope but I've looked through several of their spotters and binos. I don't care for them :twocents:
Interesting, were you drunk when looking through these optics?
Post by: JDHasty on April 04, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
If their scopes are of similar quality I would expect that they will provide a value/dollar ratio that is above almost anything else on the market.
Post by: JDHasty on April 04, 2016, 06:46:22 PM
I haven't looked through any vortex riflescope but I've looked through several of their spotters and binos. I don't care for them :twocents:
Interesting, were you drunk when looking through these optics?
He also has a problem w/Swaro SLC Neu - which was one of two or three Alpha binocular lines that were universally accepted as the "gold standard" for many years.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 04, 2016, 07:57:38 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on April 04, 2016, 08:16:07 PM
Vortex is kind of like a Dodge Cummins. Fantastic motor, wrapped in cheap components.
Easy! Don't go slinging mud now Karl!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 04, 2016, 08:17:09 PM
:chuckle: I was SOOOO hoping there were some dodge owners lurking around :chuckle:Vortex is kind of like a Dodge Cummins. Fantastic motor, wrapped in cheap components.
Easy! Don't go slinging mud now Karl!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 04, 2016, 08:18:26 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on April 04, 2016, 08:42:22 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 04, 2016, 08:45:11 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 04, 2016, 09:18:38 PM
I haven't looked through any vortex riflescope but I've looked through several of their spotters and binos. I don't care for them :twocents:
Interesting, were you drunk when looking through these optics?
I was closin' my eyes and slammin' the trigger! :IBCOOL:
Post by: Timberstalker on April 04, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
Post by: Buzz2401 on April 05, 2016, 06:51:37 PM
Post by: JDHasty on April 05, 2016, 07:13:02 PM
I would probably buy a spotter by vortex but after I had a vortex scope fail I will never buy another piece of optics from them that I am worried about failing. Besides some really old school redfields it is the only scope I have ever had fail and I own around 20 from different manufacturers.
I was under the impression that their upper end scopes were put together by LOW.
Not that LOW doesn't build to the specs provided by the client, but LOW has a well renowned clientele base and a reputation for turning out quality product. That being said, I don't own any Vortex rifle scopes.
Post by: yorketransport on April 05, 2016, 08:13:18 PM
To me, the glass on the Viper line is similar to the Bushnell 3200 or Burris Fullfield II lines. Bad color distortion, the edge of the FOV is practically worthless and like I said above, the mirage is worse when looking through the Vortex Viper than any other scope I've used. For less money you can get a Nikon Buckmasters scope which beats the viper optically. The Vortex scopes I've had did seem to have repeatable tracking though.
Now the Razor line is a completely different story!
Post by: YukonHunter on April 05, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 06, 2016, 08:18:59 AM
I broke that sucker 3 times on my 375 hh. The last time they replaced it I traded it to a member here and as far as I know it's still going strong for him. I also had a ffp viper pst on my 300 rum. It was a good scope for what I was doing. Always tracked correctly and was repeatable. Image clarity wasn't awesome but I could definitely aim with it just fine. It was replace with a gen 1 razor that I got a good deal on and that is still on there.
I still feel it is hard to beat the pst for the features it gives as a medium to longish range set up tho.
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 06, 2016, 08:27:03 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 06, 2016, 08:57:49 AM
I look forward to having the ability to review the Viper PST. Should be several months before that is a possibility :chuckle:Just keep blowing them up man! Call them and check on it each hour!
Post by: AWS on April 06, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
Post by: jasnt on April 21, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
I own and have owned numerous vortex scopes. Only ever had a problem with a hs.yup still going strong. One of my fav hunting scopes!
I broke that sucker 3 times on my 375 hh. The last time they replaced it I traded it to a member here and as far as I know it's still going strong for him. I also had a ffp viper pst on my 300 rum. It was a good scope for what I was doing. Always tracked correctly and was repeatable. Image clarity wasn't awesome but I could definitely aim with it just fine. It was replace with a gen 1 razor that I got a good deal on and that is still on there.
I still feel it is hard to beat the pst for the features it gives as a medium to longish range set up tho.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 21, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
I'm still surprised it wouldn't hold up on the ol 375. I do like that scopeI own and have owned numerous vortex scopes. Only ever had a problem with a hs.yup still going strong. One of my fav hunting scopes!
I broke that sucker 3 times on my 375 hh. The last time they replaced it I traded it to a member here and as far as I know it's still going strong for him. I also had a ffp viper pst on my 300 rum. It was a good scope for what I was doing. Always tracked correctly and was repeatable. Image clarity wasn't awesome but I could definitely aim with it just fine. It was replace with a gen 1 razor that I got a good deal on and that is still on there.
I still feel it is hard to beat the pst for the features it gives as a medium to longish range set up tho.
Post by: jasnt on April 21, 2016, 07:34:05 PM
i am too. Has held up on my 300wm and on my shotgun just fine. Shotguns can be brutal on a scopeI'm still surprised it wouldn't hold up on the ol 375. I do like that scopeI own and have owned numerous vortex scopes. Only ever had a problem with a hs.yup still going strong. One of my fav hunting scopes!
I broke that sucker 3 times on my 375 hh. The last time they replaced it I traded it to a member here and as far as I know it's still going strong for him. I also had a ffp viper pst on my 300 rum. It was a good scope for what I was doing. Always tracked correctly and was repeatable. Image clarity wasn't awesome but I could definitely aim with it just fine. It was replace with a gen 1 razor that I got a good deal on and that is still on there.
I still feel it is hard to beat the pst for the features it gives as a medium to longish range set up tho.
Post by: pashok23 on April 21, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
:yeah:I haven't looked through any vortex riflescope but I've looked through several of their spotters and binos. I don't care for them :twocents:
Interesting, were you drunk when looking through these optics?
Post by: Caretaker on April 25, 2016, 10:29:35 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 25, 2016, 10:52:03 PM
:yeah:I haven't looked through any vortex riflescope but I've looked through several of their spotters and binos. I don't care for them :twocents:
Interesting, were you drunk when looking through these optics?
I've made good money in the last few years with the judicious use of optics. Not that this means I know everything, or that people aren't entitled to their own opinions, but I'm pretty confident when I say that a lot of what Vortex manufactures simply isn't good enough for my standards. Nikon and Zen Ray are much, much better in similar price ranges. :twocents:
Post by: JDHasty on April 26, 2016, 02:56:10 AM
I know a lot of guys here swear by Vortex optics and some don't care for them, I have looked through a few Vortex glass over the years and I personally don't see what the hype is. Interesting though, I was in Cabelas on Saturday night and I walked into the Bargain Cave, 95% of the rifle scopes in the case were Vortex. I didn't see one Swarovski, no Zeiss, no Leupold, maybe one or two Nikon's and one or two Burris scopes. Now that makes me wonder why so many purchased them and returned them either for defects, repairs, or just plain poor quality. The amount of returns on a product makes me think I'll never own a piece of Vortex optics. :twocents:
Many times when you see this in the Bargain Cave they have replaced the demo units. I have seen the same with other manufacturers products.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 26, 2016, 07:06:31 AM
Post by: thinkingman on April 28, 2016, 08:49:16 AM
More Leupold scopes in post falls bargain cave than any other right now. Guess there junk too?Too many stories of how wonderful Leupold was about replacing failed optics for me to feel confident.
I don't own any Leupold for that reason....And a side by side comparison to a Burris left me less than impressed with their glass.
Post by: Stein on April 28, 2016, 08:52:13 AM
I know a lot of guys here swear by Vortex optics and some don't care for them, I have looked through a few Vortex glass over the years and I personally don't see what the hype is. Interesting though, I was in Cabelas on Saturday night and I walked into the Bargain Cave, 95% of the rifle scopes in the case were Vortex. I didn't see one Swarovski, no Zeiss, no Leupold, maybe one or two Nikon's and one or two Burris scopes. Now that makes me wonder why so many purchased them and returned them either for defects, repairs, or just plain poor quality. The amount of returns on a product makes me think I'll never own a piece of Vortex optics. :twocents:
Many times when you see this in the Bargain Cave they have replaced the demo units. I have seen the same with other manufacturers products.
Yeah, I think they are adding new models or updates as many places have them for great prices now.
For me, they have worked great and the one warranty issue I had was dealt with for free, new unit to my door in under a week.
Post by: JDHasty on April 28, 2016, 08:57:58 AM
I know a lot of guys here swear by Vortex optics and some don't care for them, I have looked through a few Vortex glass over the years and I personally don't see what the hype is. Interesting though, I was in Cabelas on Saturday night and I walked into the Bargain Cave, 95% of the rifle scopes in the case were Vortex. I didn't see one Swarovski, no Zeiss, no Leupold, maybe one or two Nikon's and one or two Burris scopes. Now that makes me wonder why so many purchased them and returned them either for defects, repairs, or just plain poor quality. The amount of returns on a product makes me think I'll never own a piece of Vortex optics. :twocents:
Many times when you see this in the Bargain Cave they have replaced the demo units. I have seen the same with other manufacturers products.
Yeah, I think they are adding new models or updates as many places have them for great prices now.
For me, they have worked great and the one warranty issue I had was dealt with for free, new unit to my door in under a week.
They generally impress me as providing value/dollar ratio that is very competitive and better than most of the competitor's across that part of their product range that I am personally familiar with, that would be Viper or higher. As to their lower price point merch, I am not personally familiar with it. And their customer service/repair service has been up there with what I get from Swaro and Leupold.
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 28, 2016, 09:05:17 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 28, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
I have always been less than impressed with TASCO and Simmons.Bro!! They are sleeper scopes! Best dollar/quality value of any scope in the $20-$60 range there is! Wake up dude!
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 28, 2016, 09:15:25 AM
I have always been less than impressed with TASCO and Simmons.Bro!! They are sleeper scopes! Best dollar/quality value of any scope in the $20-$60 range there is! Wake up dude!
They'll get you on paper anyway :tup:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 28, 2016, 09:19:08 AM
how big is the paper :chuckle:I have always been less than impressed with TASCO and Simmons.Bro!! They are sleeper scopes! Best dollar/quality value of any scope in the $20-$60 range there is! Wake up dude!
They'll get you on paper anyway :tup:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 28, 2016, 11:00:18 AM
burris! :yike: after their complete disregard for customer service on some binos I owned that were defective I'll never own another piece of Burris or Steiner optics again! Any optic company will have warranty issues, it's just how it is. To me it is how they handle the issues they do have. :twocents:More Leupold scopes in post falls bargain cave than any other right now. Guess there junk too?Too many stories of how wonderful Leupold was about replacing failed optics for me to feel confident.
I don't own any Leupold for that reason....And a side by side comparison to a Burris left me less than impressed with their glass.
Post by: thinkingman on April 29, 2016, 07:38:02 AM
Strange.burris! :yike: after their complete disregard for customer service on some binos I owned that were defective I'll never own another piece of Burris or Steiner optics again! Any optic company will have warranty issues, it's just how it is. To me it is how they handle the issues they do have. :twocents:More Leupold scopes in post falls bargain cave than any other right now. Guess there junk too?Too many stories of how wonderful Leupold was about replacing failed optics for me to feel confident.
I don't own any Leupold for that reason....And a side by side comparison to a Burris left me less than impressed with their glass.
I sent a scope in to be cleaned and they couldn't have been nicer about it.
Sorry you had that experience.
My Fullfield IIs have lead a rough life on top of Tikka 300WSM and never complains, just drives tacks every year and is clear and bright.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 29, 2016, 08:09:10 AM
I drive a Dodge and look through vortex optics. This is my first night at Optics Anonymous.
It's OK, Timber. We're tolerant of Vortex/Dodge trans-equipment users. Please feel free to make use of either bathroom at your discretion. Just keep in mind: it's not necessary for you to announce to everyone that your equipment is arrayed in such a way. Carry on! I would say "thread jack", but that brings up additional images which may be upsetting to some readers.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 29, 2016, 08:17:32 AM
I have a ffII on my 7 mag and like the scope well enough. But have come to the realization that if it ever has an issue I won't expect anything much out of Burris after my last dealing and I'll just replace it.Strange.burris! :yike: after their complete disregard for customer service on some binos I owned that were defective I'll never own another piece of Burris or Steiner optics again! Any optic company will have warranty issues, it's just how it is. To me it is how they handle the issues they do have. :twocents:More Leupold scopes in post falls bargain cave than any other right now. Guess there junk too?Too many stories of how wonderful Leupold was about replacing failed optics for me to feel confident.
I don't own any Leupold for that reason....And a side by side comparison to a Burris left me less than impressed with their glass.
I sent a scope in to be cleaned and they couldn't have been nicer about it.
Sorry you had that experience.
My Fullfield IIs have lead a rough life on top of Tikka 300WSM and never complains, just drives tacks every year and is clear and bright.
My issue was with binos, but it really made me lose all faith in both Burris and Steiner.
Post by: Buzz2401 on April 29, 2016, 11:45:33 PM
Post by: pashok23 on May 12, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on May 14, 2016, 06:54:05 PM
I have always been less than impressed with TASCO and Simmons.Bro!! They are sleeper scopes! Best dollar/quality value of any scope in the $20-$60 range there is! Wake up dude!
Hey now Karl, I still use tasco 10×42s!! Still running strong after 10 years and can't see the difference between them and my vipers, well not a 500 buck difference!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 14, 2016, 09:24:56 PM
:yike:I have always been less than impressed with TASCO and Simmons.Bro!! They are sleeper scopes! Best dollar/quality value of any scope in the $20-$60 range there is! Wake up dude!
Hey now Karl, I still use tasco 10×42s!! Still running strong after 10 years and can't see the difference between them and my vipers, well not a 500 buck difference!
:chuckle: