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Title: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: aaronoto on April 10, 2016, 07:02:35 PM
Took Ruby out for her first live bird exposure today.  Overall I think it went really well, she's my first bird dog so the whole thing is as new to me as it is to her!  Here's a video of her working a bird.  The pigeons weren't the strongest fliers, but I'll take whatever I can get at this point.  We just started whoa training a few weeks ago, I initially stopped her from running in with the check cord but loosened up on it after whoaing her and she held well, if that pigeon so much as moved a muscle it would have been game over though :chuckle:

We did some dead bird fetches and she found those no problem, considering how tall the grass was I was impressed, the stuff was taller than her.  She was pretty pumped after it was all said and done.  I had a hard time wrangling her back into the truck :)

Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Colin on April 10, 2016, 08:28:48 PM
Where's the video?! What a tease.

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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 10, 2016, 08:45:22 PM
Very cool!
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Old Dog on April 10, 2016, 08:48:29 PM
First off I'm not a pro.   :chuckle:  It's a great idea to film your sessions, so you can go back and correct your mistakes.  However, I can't make out what you are doing very well, because the camera is too far away.  One of the handy cams, or a second person filming would help.

Beg, borrow, buy, or steal a launcher!  A launcher gives you much better control of the bird at this stage.  Bring your pup in on a check cord from downwind.   As soon as the pup hits the scent launch the bird and let the pup chase it.  You have to have pretty strong flyers.  The pup will learn that if it pressures the birds they fly, and if pup chases the birds pup can't catch them.  No more than a few exposures per session.  In just a few sessions, depending on the dog, it should begin to point.  That's really over simplified, and it's only one of many methods.

BTW from what I could see your session went pretty well.  :tup:
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Mark251 on April 10, 2016, 08:58:02 PM
Nice  :tup:
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Curly on April 10, 2016, 09:14:18 PM
Where's the video?! What a tease.

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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Colin on April 11, 2016, 06:57:05 PM
Where's the video?! What a tease.

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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: aaronoto on April 11, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
First off I'm not a pro.   :chuckle:  It's a great idea to film your sessions, so you can go back and correct your mistakes.  However, I can't make out what you are doing very well, because the camera is too far away.  One of the handy cams, or a second person filming would help.

Beg, borrow, buy, or steal a launcher!  A launcher gives you much better control of the bird at this stage.  Bring your pup in on a check cord from downwind.   As soon as the pup hits the scent launch the bird and let the pup chase it.  You have to have pretty strong flyers.  The pup will learn that if it pressures the birds they fly, and if pup chases the birds pup can't catch them.  No more than a few exposures per session.  In just a few sessions, depending on the dog, it should begin to point.  That's really over simplified, and it's only one of many methods.

BTW from what I could see your session went pretty well.  :tup:

I don't think I'll ever reach the production quality of your videos ;)  A launcher will come in the somewhat near future.  I'm not in too big of a hurry though because I want to make sure she has plenty of bird exposure before I start introducing birds via a launcher.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: addicted2hunting on April 11, 2016, 09:11:05 PM
Good looking pup! We have a navhda group that trains regularly. I am in whatcom county also. I have a 2 yr old I am running in his UT test next month. Your more than welcome to join us training sometime.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Old Dog on April 11, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
 [/quote] I don't think I'll ever reach the production quality of your videos ;) 
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Video production quality?  LOL!  Lily does all the editing.  I just strap the camera to my head, and start filming.   :chuckle:

addicted2hunting has made you one heck of an offer.  You won't get many of those, so you might want to take him up on it.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: constructeur on April 12, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
Addicted2hunting is a great dog trainer and dick hunter.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: Colin on April 12, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Addicted2hunting is a great dog trainer and dick hunter.
Edit needed...

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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: NW-GSP on April 12, 2016, 07:22:29 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vDfeE1405c
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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: NW-GSP on April 12, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
What breed is your pup?
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: aaronoto on April 12, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
What breed is your pup?
She's a WPG.

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Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: NW-GSP on April 12, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
What breed is your pup?
She's a WPG.

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I live in Arlington. I have a drahthaar, would be fun to get together to do some training.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: addicted2hunting on April 13, 2016, 03:40:46 AM
NWGSP- you live decently close as well. Not sure if you get together to train with people or not but you are always invited as well. I train everyday and weekends we have a few guys get together somewhere. We train for hunt tests and regular hunt stuff.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: NW-GSP on April 13, 2016, 07:10:51 AM
NWGSP- you live decently close as well. Not sure if you get together to train with people or not but you are always invited as well. I train everyday and weekends we have a few guys get together somewhere. We train for hunt tests and regular hunt stuff.

That would be awesome!. I am training for the vgp now.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: aaronoto on April 13, 2016, 07:14:54 AM
Sounds like we need to do a training day down in Skagit County somewhere.  Unfortunately my weekends in April are shot but maybe sometime in May.  I'd love to meet a few other members from the board and learn a few things!
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: addicted2hunting on April 13, 2016, 05:00:57 PM
Ya I am game. stay in touch and the weekend after this I'll be up around home training and maybe that sunday go do some training.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: constructeur on April 13, 2016, 05:03:18 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vDfeE1405c
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Higgins methods are great for relatively soft dogs. I do like some of his training tools though, specifically his launcher.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: wildweeds on April 14, 2016, 10:54:49 PM
If you'd  like help send me a message, I have launchers but I also have planting tricks that work far better than launchers. I am in ferndale.
Title: Re: Got my pup on her first birds
Post by: wildweeds on April 14, 2016, 10:59:49 PM
And whoa isn't a command to be used around game. There's a ton of books and supposed experts who say it is. But it truly isnt.
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