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Title: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: hirshey on April 11, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
Finally had one of my arguements with Carter again on Facebook...

Seems like a bi-annual event for us.  :chuckle:

Guess I just like  :bash:
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Oh Mah on April 11, 2016, 09:54:20 PM
 :tup: Keep up the fight,You might not turn this one but you will get some to see the truth.
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: hirshey on April 11, 2016, 10:05:06 PM
It just makes me feel like our state is daft for putting him on the wolf recovery board :dunno:

Feels like when the state DOES reach the goals of the wolf recovery plan he will still turn right around and pull the rug out from under their feet by riling up the masses for no good reason other than to continue to profit on his books.
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 11, 2016, 10:07:09 PM
It just makes me feel like our state is daft for putting him on the wolf recovery board :dunno:

Feels like when the state DOES reach the goals of the wolf recovery plan he will still turn right around and pull the rug out from under their feet by riling up the masses for no good reason other than to continue to profit on his books.

Wow this guy is on the wolf recovery board? We don't have a chance!
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: danderson on April 11, 2016, 10:10:25 PM
Go get um, Kari
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: hirshey on April 11, 2016, 10:13:44 PM
It just makes me feel like our state is daft for putting him on the wolf recovery board :dunno:

Feels like when the state DOES reach the goals of the wolf recovery plan he will still turn right around and pull the rug out from under their feet by riling up the masses for no good reason other than to continue to profit on his books.

Wow this guy is on the wolf recovery board? We don't have a chance!

He at least advised on it.. I cannot find the literature to back my claim of him as a member currently. Still. :(
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 11, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
It just makes me feel like our state is daft for putting him on the wolf recovery board :dunno:

Feels like when the state DOES reach the goals of the wolf recovery plan he will still turn right around and pull the rug out from under their feet by riling up the masses for no good reason other than to continue to profit on his books.

Wow this guy is on the wolf recovery board? We don't have a chance!

He at least advised on it.. I cannot find the literature to back my claim of him as a member currently. Still. :(

So funny. 2 minutes before I read your post my cousin texted me about some guy on Facebook he was going back and forth with about the wolves. I said is it wolfer? It's the same guy! Small world
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 11, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Like arguing with the sea lion and seal advocates on the Columbia River.  Instead of the ODFW & WDFW getting sued by HS and other groups each time they tried to remove them.  If the changed there approach and just said they would not enforce any punishment on those that removed them lethally, the problem would fix itself in short order.
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 11, 2016, 10:31:24 PM
Like arguing with the sea lion and seal advocates on the Columbia River.  Instead of the ODFW & WDFW getting sued by HS and other groups each time they tried to remove them.  If the changed there approach and just said they would not enforce any punishment on those that removed them lethally, the problem would fix itself in short order.

They did that in Idaho a few years back. Letter from I believe the Governer saying that no F&G money would be spent investigating wolf kills. I swear Idaho is like everything I could hope Washington could ever be. No point system either!
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: hirshey on April 11, 2016, 10:54:57 PM
It just makes me shake my head... I know I shouldn't bite but when people look to him as an expert, and he purposefully incites anger towards everything from hunting to ranching to feeding stations.. I can't help it. I'll be good for another 6 months or so now, I suppose.
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Widgeondeke on April 11, 2016, 11:11:19 PM
Good times Hirshey.    Fight the fight
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Maverick on April 11, 2016, 11:21:50 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: wolfbait on April 12, 2016, 04:53:40 AM
It just makes me shake my head... I know I shouldn't bite but when people look to him as an expert, and he purposefully incites anger towards everything from hunting to ranching to feeding stations.. I can't help it. I'll be good for another 6 months or so now, I suppose.

You did a great Job Hirshey! :tup:

Demonizing ranchers etc. who use public lands is just another tool to influence those who have no clue. After all the wolf is really about habitat, ruining ranching, no more range permits, and destroying hunting so there will be no need for hunters in the woods, it's called shutting down public lands. It's a bit slower then what happened in Oregon with the Hammonds, but the out come will be the same.



Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 12, 2016, 04:57:42 AM
Good job offering a well written counter argument.  You cannot sway those with their heads buried but you definitely can sway the fence sitters.  Keeping quiet is basically turning the mic over to the wrong side.   Thanks and keep it up!   :)
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: grundy53 on April 12, 2016, 05:02:39 AM
Lol. Nice job Hirshey!

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Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Skillet on April 12, 2016, 07:46:36 AM
Kudos Hirsh-  nothing like a little rational thinking to take the wind out of an extremist's sails  :tup:
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Special T on April 12, 2016, 08:19:29 AM
These guys depend on repeating the sames lies over and over until people accept it as truth. I personally love being calm when they are irrational and point out obvious hiprocracy. Thinking hurts thier head. How can a wolf be a wolf  when they are pushing the mexican red wolf?  The ESA pushes saving sub species all the time but why not wolves like the ones in the cascades?

Cant win an argument but you can only make them look stupid infront of people with common sense.
Title: Re: Well... I guess I couldn't help myself today
Post by: Eli346 on April 12, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
I'm proud of you Kari. I think I would have unloaded on him about 2 tests in!
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