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Title: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 08:59:34 AM
Just a friendly heads up to all you potential Alkali (Yakima Training Center) applicants.  As of April 1st, you must have either a passport, or an advanced drivers license to access the base.  If these are not attainable for you, don't burn a choice on this hunt.  I spend a lot of time out there for work and play and they have really gotten more stringent on security along with the new requirements.  All vehicles are getting a good once over before being allowed in.  Good luck in the draws everyone :hello:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 21, 2016, 09:05:51 AM
I think what Karl is saying is "don't bother applying, they will ransack your rig and you have to have super I'd. There isn't any deer or elk out there anyhow." 
 :chuckle:
But it is good to remember the passport or enhanced dl thing.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 10:12:14 AM
There used to be elk until you scared em all away last year :chuckle:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: adamR on April 21, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
I don't want to take this thread in the wrong direction but I'm just curious Karl.  Do the Yakima Indians have to also have the same documentation to enter the base?  I'm seeing this ID thing as a boost in the deer herd, unless they aren't subject to those rules as well...
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Whitpirate on April 21, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
There used to be elk until you scared em all away last year :chuckle:

BOOM, PUFF, *@#$@#$*, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 21, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
There used to be elk until you scared em all away last year :chuckle:

BOOM, PUFF, *@#$@#$*, rinse, repeat.
You guys are somethin else!  :chuckle:
I'd say it wasn't my fault. But since I was alone there's nobody to blame!  :yike:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: trophyhunt on April 21, 2016, 11:11:19 AM
Used to be a great deer unit, thanks to a few natives that unit went to crap.  Thanks for the heads up! :tup:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Igottanewknee on April 21, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
I guess my Cac card should work. I currently work on JBLM.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Kittman on April 21, 2016, 11:33:29 AM
I guess my Cac card should work. I currently work on JBLM.

In addition, all current Blue, Tan, and Red ID cards should also work.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 21, 2016, 02:24:01 PM
Will the TWIC work? It is mandatory at ports and is issued by DHS. :dunno:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: h20hunter on April 21, 2016, 02:32:33 PM
This thread is pointless.  Everyone knows that the only hunt able elk are in the Blues.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 03:09:24 PM
 
I guess my Cac card should work. I currently work on JBLM.

In addition, all current Blue, Tan, and Red ID cards should also work.
:yeah:   Correct.  Sorry I should have added that, thanks for catching that.

Will the TWIC work? It is mandatory at ports and is issued by DHS. :dunno:
  I couldn't accurately answer that.  Gate guards and MP'S only mentioned the ADL and the passport.  I would call or email them.  Though,  id be careful on that too.  Talk to LE direct and don't take the gate guys word on anything.  Rules seem to vary from shift to shift :chuckle:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Bob33 on April 21, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/01/13/some-military-bases-no-longer-accepting-ids-from-five-states.html

The change was supposed to be effective in January, but I suspect YTC waited until after the current recreational access cards expired on March 31 to implement it fully.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
I posted this merely as a heads up for everyone.  Wasn't really wanting to discuss the hunt itself, but ya, there is a bin full of bad apples out there that flat out rape and pillage the deer.  Only thing that saves enough to reproduce is zone closures due to training.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Hilltop123 on April 21, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
I posted this merely as a heads up for everyone.  Wasn't really wanting to discuss the hunt itself, but ya, there is a bin full of bad apples out there that flat out rape and pillage the deer.  Only thing that saves enough to reproduce is zone closures due to training.
Are you referring to employees?
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
I posted this merely as a heads up for everyone.  Wasn't really wanting to discuss the hunt itself, but ya, there is a bin full of bad apples out there that flat out rape and pillage the deer.  Only thing that saves enough to reproduce is zone closures due to training.
Are you referring to employees?
No, tribal members
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: coachcw on April 21, 2016, 06:15:14 PM
yep just check the book !
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: DoubleJ on April 21, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
CAC card
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: wadu1 on April 21, 2016, 09:02:08 PM
Same requirements on JBLM, gotta take my passport when I take Dad to Madigan. It's odd that an enhanced DL is OK when the FED's only gave WA a few extra months to comply with the National law. You wont be able to fly with them in few months.  :twocents:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 21, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
Same requirements on JBLM, gotta take my passport when I take Dad to Madigan. It's odd that an enhanced DL is OK when the FED's only gave WA a few extra months to comply with the National law. You wont be able to fly with them in few months.  :twocents:
  Kind of a pain to get too.  At least around here.  Closest place to get one is the trip cities
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 21, 2016, 09:27:15 PM
CAC card

AKA ultra cool guy card, only DOD, DOD employees, DOD contractors have these.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Gobble Gobble on April 21, 2016, 10:09:14 PM
I do miss working out there it was 6 good years. I think the stricter ID requirements are a good thing. I felt the base was to open (not including all the holes in the fence line with tire tracks through them) for the average person to just come on base for most any kind of recreation.

 I personally would not waist my points on YTC. You can bed a nice deer or elk only to have the TA closed the next day. Its bad for archery in September when the Japanese are their training. Most all of the TA are closed to hunting. Seen a pissed hunter more than once. I would not eat the meat of any animal off the base either especially the elk. I know where the main herd spends most of its time (enjoyed watching them at night with thermal cameras) and there are 2 areas (3 on the base) that are NO GO due to depleted uranium munitions that the elk tend to hang out around. I've worked in all 3 more than once (before they knew they existed).

Again, I think stricter ID is a good thing. I'm sure 1 tribal card for the truck load will not change.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on April 21, 2016, 11:11:32 PM
I would not eat the meat of any animal off the base either especially the elk. I know where the main herd spends most of its time (enjoyed watching them at night with thermal cameras) and there are 2 areas (3 on the base) that are NO GO due to depleted uranium munitions that the elk tend to hang out around. I've worked in all 3 more than once (before they knew they existed).

I knew that bull I killed there in '12 had a weird taste to him! LMAO.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 21, 2016, 11:30:25 PM
I would not eat the meat of any animal off the base either especially the elk. I know where the main herd spends most of its time (enjoyed watching them at night with thermal cameras) and there are 2 areas (3 on the base) that are NO GO due to depleted uranium munitions that the elk tend to hang out around. I've worked in all 3 more than once (before they knew they existed).

I knew that bull I killed there in '12 had a weird taste to him! LMAO.

Have you had children since then, do they have third eyes?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Gobble Gobble on April 22, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
I have been tested and on several occasions & I had elevated levels of uranium. I have not been tested in probably 3 years now.

I love the diversity of YTC and the variety of wildlife that can be hunted (deer & elk only by state draw). In the time I worked out there there was a bear killed & I know 3 others who since have seen a second bear. I worked with 2 guys who each have killed cougar on the base.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: 270Shooter on April 25, 2016, 12:36:51 PM
There's hardly any deer tags for that unit anymore but I know there's still a few good bucks around.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: mfswallace on April 25, 2016, 02:32:44 PM
Good 1  :chuckle: Trying to get others to waste their points on alkali so u have more chance elsewhere  :tup:

Yakamas' have decimated this once great area and although its known by all nothing will be done so they don't have to admit its a problem all to common around the state perpetuated by those with the "right" to kill anything and everything...
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: coachcw on April 25, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
Its only two or three yaks killing a couple every weekend for dog food or whatever .
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: mfswallace on April 25, 2016, 02:52:21 PM
I realize its only a small number(more like 7-8, the book tells the story) of guys doing it but the nation as a whole is condoning it by not regulating the dbags who give them a bad name. If they stopped them or limited them it would have to apply to all and they don't want to do that even though it hurts game populations.

If you aren't part of the solution your past of the problem.

Just thought it was funny someone was encouraging people to apply there when there are few deer and now we learn about uranium enrichment of meat :chuckle:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: trophyhunt on April 25, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
I'm completely serious in my thought here,  I say OPEN the alkali for OVER the counter deer and elk hunting!!  Give those few natives some competition, I bet that would piss them off.  They opened the dicky unit to elk because the natives were having at them all they wanted, open up the alkali too I say! Why not?
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: 180-GRAIN on April 25, 2016, 03:33:22 PM
I'm completely serious in my thought here,  I say OPEN the alkali for OVER the counter deer and elk hunting!!  Give those few natives some competition, I bet that would piss them off.  They opened the dicky unit to elk because the natives were having at them all they wanted, open up the alkali too I say! Why not?

 :yeah:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: 270Shooter on April 25, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
I'm completely serious in my thought here,  I say OPEN the alkali for OVER the counter deer and elk hunting!!  Give those few natives some competition, I bet that would piss them off.  They opened the dicky unit to elk because the natives were having at them all they wanted, open up the alkali too I say! Why not?
it would be a mess, if they just opened it for general there would be tons of guys in the wrong units and the training center police guys would have their hands full.
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: wackmaster on April 28, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
They changed the rifle deer tag from November to October that sucks


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Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 28, 2016, 10:01:29 PM
I'm completely serious in my thought here,  I say OPEN the YAKAMA RESERVATION and ALKALI for OVER the counter deer and elk hunting!!  Give those few natives some competition, I bet that would piss them off.  They opened the dicky unit to elk because the natives were having at them all they wanted, open up the alkali too I say! Why not?

Fixed it for you :tup:
Title: Re: ATTN: ALKALI DEER APPLICANTS!!!!!
Post by: mfswallace on April 29, 2016, 05:56:13 AM
I'm completely serious in my thought here,  I say OPEN the YAKAMA RESERVATION and ALKALI for OVER the counter deer and elk hunting!!  Give those few natives some competition, I bet that would piss them off.  They opened the dicky unit to elk because the natives were having at them all they wanted, open up the alkali too I say! Why not?

Fixed it for you :tup:

 :yeah:
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