Post by: Bigshooter on April 23, 2016, 08:07:58 AM
Maybe the WSTA should contact Weyerhaeuser and find out why they are not allowing trapping.
Post by: ouchfoss on April 23, 2016, 09:07:49 AM
Post by: jasnt on April 23, 2016, 09:13:40 AM
Wow! :bash: That sucks big time. I don't know much about that area but is it a leased or gate entry fee zone? Is this a way for Weyerhauser to make more money in the future with trapping specific leases? :dunno: I don't really like the path that our access and rules regarding the outdoors is headed down. Seems every year a few more things are taken away or restricted.:yeah: :bash:
Post by: kenbell27 on April 23, 2016, 09:16:33 AM
Post by: ouchfoss on April 23, 2016, 09:25:54 AM
I am not sure about St. Helens but Weyerhaeuser has a trapper that is contracted for Vail. His name is Billy. His son does the bear control in Vail also.That makes sense. Job security. Still sucks though.
Post by: Bigshooter on May 03, 2016, 08:41:21 PM
"Beginning April 2016, Weyerhaeuser has committed up to 3 million acres of private timberland in Washington and Oregon to support a variety of conservation efforts focused on reintroducing the North American Fisher (Fisher) throughout the West. For this reason, no trapping is currently allowed.
Thank you,"
Post by: Bigshooter on May 03, 2016, 08:42:55 PM
Post by: Machias on May 04, 2016, 05:36:57 AM
Post by: jasnt on May 04, 2016, 05:39:31 AM
Post by: Humptulips on May 04, 2016, 08:12:19 AM
Post by: Humptulips on May 04, 2016, 08:19:06 AM
I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas. I believe that in the past that you could. I sent them an email telling them how unhappy I was about this. If you are unhappy about this please send an email to Weyerhaesuer and let them know. Here is a link to all of the different areas emails. https://www.wyrecreationnw.com/ContactUs.aspx
Maybe the WSTA should contact Weyerhaeuser and find out why they are not allowing trapping.
What is it that makes you unhappy, the fact that you can't do something you didn't do before, or the fact that you now know you can't do something that you never actually did?
Do you have any actual information or are you just trying to stir the pot?
Trappers have been trapping on WEYCO lands since before they were WEYCO with WEYCOs blessings.
Post by: fireweed on May 04, 2016, 09:27:02 AM
Post by: Machias on May 04, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
Post by: Machias on May 04, 2016, 10:15:47 AM
Post by: muzbuster on May 04, 2016, 10:25:53 AM
This seems like a perfectly legitimate reason to not allow trapping:
"Beginning April 2016, Weyerhaeuser has committed up to 3 million acres of private timberland in Washington and Oregon to support a variety of conservation efforts focused on reintroducing the North American Fisher (Fisher) throughout the West. For this reason, no trapping is currently allowed.
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No it isn't, because you can only use live traps, if a Fisher should happen to get in a trap all that needs to be done is open the trap and let it go, no harm done.
Post by: Humptulips on May 04, 2016, 12:23:32 PM
For Macs B. The fisher recovery team at WDFW actually want us catching fisher. WSTA is a participating partner in the fisher recovery program. The way we can help is by catching documenting and releasing fisher. It is one way the fisher recovery program can see where and what type habitat fishers are using plus we get a visual inspection of an animal to gauge how healthy they are. If things go right we can also get DNA samples for the department.
Post by: Bigshooter on May 04, 2016, 02:59:36 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on May 04, 2016, 03:31:17 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on May 04, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
Wasn't this you about six hours ago? "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas. I believe that in the past that you could. "
Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past. The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do. I call that not having any skin in the game. That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV. Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.
I trapped vail 2 years ago and St Helens last year. The last two years the agreement you had to sign off on didn't say if you could trap or not, but i did anyway. But this year it does say you can't. Is it still funny?
Post by: Bigshooter on May 04, 2016, 04:33:36 PM
I still have not heard from WEYCO on this. Waiting for reply from someone who can do something but I have talked with WDFW and the were unaware of this. I was told they would weigh in on our behalf.
For Macs B. The fisher recovery team at WDFW actually want us catching fisher. WSTA is a participating partner in the fisher recovery program. The way we can help is by catching documenting and releasing fisher. It is one way the fisher recovery program can see where and what type habitat fishers are using plus we get a visual inspection of an animal to gauge how healthy they are. If things go right we can also get DNA samples for the department.
Thanks Bruce.
Post by: jasnt on May 04, 2016, 05:19:04 PM
Post by: Skunk Trapper on May 04, 2016, 07:07:46 PM
Mr "skin in the game".... :hello:
Post by: Humptulips on May 04, 2016, 09:12:19 PM
Wasn't this you about six hours ago? "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas. I believe that in the past that you could. "
Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past. The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do. I call that not having any skin in the game. That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV. Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.
Ever heard the phrase "An injury to one is an injury to all"
Post by: jasnt on May 04, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
yup if it affects one trapper it affects us all. We've lost too much to stand by and lose one more right, one more right, one more place to trap. You should be standing with use as next week it could be your skin in the gameWasn't this you about six hours ago? "I see this year that Weyerhaeuser is not allowing trapping on at least the Vail or St. Helens areas. I believe that in the past that you could. "
Doesn't sound like you've actually done much actual trapping on Vail or St Helens property or you would have known if you could have in the past. The FUNNY part is that you want to stir up a big forum argument over something that you obviously don't do. I call that not having any skin in the game. That's why you won't find me complaining about changes in ATV usage, because I don't run an ATV. Same way with talk about increasing road taxes on electric cars, doesn't apply to me.
Ever heard the phrase "An injury to one is an injury to all"
Post by: Skunk Trapper on May 05, 2016, 12:29:57 AM