Post by: jasnt on April 24, 2016, 05:41:39 PM
WOLF NEWS
WDFW INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE WOLF POACHING IN NE WA
APRIL 21, 2016 ANDY WALGAMOTT LEAVE A COMMENT
Washington wildlife managers say an investigation is under way into the possible poaching of a wolf in Northeast Washington.
Donny Martorello reports that a WDFW collar put on a member of the Diamond Pack was recovered in Pend Oreille County in the last month.
RANGE OF THE DIAMOND PACK NORTH OF SPOKANE AS OF 2014. IT HAS SINCE MOVED ITS DEN INTO IDAHO BUT STILL ROAMS IN WASHINGTON. (WDFW)
RANGE OF THE DIAMOND PACK NORTH OF SPOKANE AS OF 2014. IT HAS SINCE MOVED ITS DEN INTO IDAHO BUT STILL ROAMS IN WASHINGTON. (WDFW)
No carcass was found, and Martorello acknowledges that collars can slip off, be chewed off by packmates and break off, but they can also be cut off and bolts can be loosened.
He says that WDFW officers are investigating.
The Diamond Pack was formerly Washington’s largest, but has moved its den across the state line into Idaho, though it still roams in east-central Pend Oreille County.
Im sure that they will have no troubles getting info on this one. :chuckle:
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 05:47:53 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 24, 2016, 05:50:18 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 05:52:11 PM
Why are they investigating "possible wolf poaching" as apposed to "possible collar accidentally falling off"?
Its wdfw. We are all guilty until proven innocent. Thats their mindset
Post by: jasnt on April 24, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
:yeah:Why are they investigating "possible wolf poaching" as apposed to "possible collar accidentally falling off"?
Its wdfw. We are all guilty until proven innocent. Thats their mindset
Lol. They say the diamond pack isnt a wa pack anymore so its not counting toward our "recovery goal," but as soon as one turns up possibly dead its a wa wolf again. Funny. Just a concerned idaho resident returning the collar to wa after a legal harvest in idaho obviously :tup::yeah:
Post by: buckfvr on April 24, 2016, 07:53:52 PM
Post by: buglebrush on April 24, 2016, 07:57:02 PM
Why are they investigating "possible wolf poaching" as apposed to "possible collar accidentally falling off"?
Its wdfw. We are all guilty until proven innocent. Thats their mindset
:yeah:
Post by: buglebrush on April 24, 2016, 07:59:24 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 08:24:57 PM
I think they want their first wolf poacher worse than they wanted their first wolf pack........ :chuckle:
Every wdfw employee will pitch a :cmp1: when they can bust somebody for popping a wolf
Post by: MtnMuley on April 24, 2016, 08:38:26 PM
Lol. They say the diamond pack isnt a wa pack anymore so its not counting toward our "recovery goal," but as soon as one turns up possibly dead its a wa wolf again. Funny. Just a concerned idaho resident returning the collar to wa after a legal harvest in idaho obviously :tup:
Couldn't be said better.
Post by: kodiak 907 on April 24, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 24, 2016, 09:20:57 PM
I think they want their first wolf poacher worse than they wanted their first wolf pack........ :chuckle:
+1 brother
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 09:53:14 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 24, 2016, 09:56:29 PM
If the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 09:58:21 PM
If the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Oh id bet we already have
Post by: huntnphool on April 24, 2016, 09:59:38 PM
If the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Oh id bet we already have
Not according to the experts.
Post by: jasnt on April 24, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
i would say that's a pipe dream tooIf the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Post by: buglebrush on April 24, 2016, 10:06:39 PM
If the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Oh id bet we already have
:yeah:
Post by: Bango skank on April 24, 2016, 10:06:59 PM
If the collar didnt slip off, if it was killed, the shooter missed a good opportunity. Wdfw headquarters needs to start getting bloody collars in the mail. Anybody who thinks we will get a wolf season in this state is high. Very very high.
Im hoping we NEVER reach the 15 BP qualifier. :twocents:
Oh id bet we already have
Not according to the experts.
Oh theyre experts alright. Experts at pretending not to see whats right in front of their eyes.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 24, 2016, 10:12:44 PM
I live in this packs range. Had a wolf chasing my dog right up on my porch. WDFW is. ... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :twocents:
Doesn't that qualify for being able to protect property and put that wolf in the ground?
Post by: huntnphool on April 24, 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Post by: buglebrush on April 25, 2016, 08:26:14 AM
I live in this packs range. Had a wolf chasing my dog right up on my porch. WDFW is. ... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :twocents:
Doesn't that qualify for being able to protect property and put that wolf in the ground?
;)
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 25, 2016, 09:09:34 AM
Why are they investigating "possible wolf poaching" as apposed to "possible collar accidentally falling off"?
My thoughts exactly. Since it is known to den in ID, can it also not be a legal ID harvest? Someone at WDFW needs a little PR lesson.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 25, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 25, 2016, 11:06:16 AM
I live in this packs range. Had a wolf chasing my dog right up on my porch. WDFW is. ... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :twocents:
Doesn't that qualify for being able to protect property and put that wolf in the ground?
;)
Post by: wolfbait on April 25, 2016, 11:26:19 AM
Picking a confirmed pack to investigate and adding the poaching line just adds fuel for the lawyers, AKA environmental groups and of course gives them another excuse to beg for more money over the poor wolves.
"This isn't about loves wolves hates wolves, it's about who controls the numbers"
Bob Fanning.
Anyone who ever expects any honesty from WDFW&Wolves is dreaming.
Post by: buglebrush on April 25, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
Post by: huntnphool on April 25, 2016, 12:24:20 PM
Their agenda on predator management really seems to be for the entire state to go to special permit only. If you think WDFW really thinks that they are correctly managing predator impacts then you must think they are really really stupid. IMO it may be a little more sinister than simply stupid.
For those of you that have not read WDFW's wolf proposal, it's written in there in black and white "hunting seasons may necessarily have to be adjusted" when talking about sustaining the wolf population.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,129321.msg1720992.html#msg1720992
We chatted about it in this thread.
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
Post by: buglebrush on April 25, 2016, 01:02:47 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 25, 2016, 03:37:43 PM
I have several friends who were trapping wolves all winter in Idaho. The amount of kills they found was truly astonishing even for guys that know how horrible wolves are. Mostly moose and Mule Deer. Lots of mule deer!
Let's hear numbers. I ran into a guy who cross country skied on the border of unit 10 and found 18 dead cow/calf elk over an 8 mile stretch following wolf tracks. They no longer allow people down into the winter range during winter months on the North Fork of the Clearwater. I believe it's so people don't see what's going on.
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2016, 08:55:53 PM
I have several friends who were trapping wolves all winter in Idaho. The amount of kills they found was truly astonishing even for guys that know how horrible wolves are. Mostly moose and Mule Deer. Lots of mule deer!
Let's hear numbers. I ran into a guy who cross country skied on the border of unit 10 and found 18 dead cow/calf elk over an 8 mile stretch following wolf tracks. They no longer allow people down into the winter range during winter months on the North Fork of the Clearwater. I believe it's so people don't see what's going on.
Sounds like an undercover you tube video is needed!
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 25, 2016, 09:30:57 PM
I have several friends who were trapping wolves all winter in Idaho. The amount of kills they found was truly astonishing even for guys that know how horrible wolves are. Mostly moose and Mule Deer. Lots of mule deer!
Let's hear numbers. I ran into a guy who cross country skied on the border of unit 10 and found 18 dead cow/calf elk over an 8 mile stretch following wolf tracks. They no longer allow people down into the winter range during winter months on the North Fork of the Clearwater. I believe it's so people don't see what's going on.
Sounds like an undercover you tube video is needed!
I'm picking up some new MSR snowshoes. It might be a good project. I have a sweet video cam as well
Post by: Special T on April 25, 2016, 09:36:01 PM
Post by: Utah on April 27, 2016, 06:57:01 PM