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Other Hunting => Turkey Hunting => Topic started by: Deer slayer on April 26, 2016, 08:15:56 PM
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So on the 16th I am hunting with my best friend, his 16 year old daughter and my dad. I decide to leave my shotgun home for the day hoping the 16 year old would get the opportunity. I usually don't hunt until my friends and family are done.
So at 6am we are all set up and listening to a Tom gobble in the roost. I see a white dodge come southbound by the alfalfa field and within minutes it's coming back northbound. It parks in the road and driver gets out and starts walking towards the roost tree the tom was gobbling in. Tom shuts up and I get up and walk to the suspect vehicle. Take a couple pics and wait for the guy to come out. After a few minutes the trespasser makes his way back to the truck. I take a pic of the guy in the field. He comes up with a bunch of excuses that don't add up. I'm not happy with him at this point. He drove right by two no trespassing signs. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160427%2F8f220705936fba8ee249d075c5e30f0f.jpg&hash=50ae5cf6226cb85bf570519ef5df4d6480f26e39)(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160427%2Ff8d7826a78ce20e1525f84d6e6249779.jpg&hash=a1a9a42cd799f0d8f57a4c5e9206333cbb929603)(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160427%2Ff7d4a7b2e4dcefcdb4388c7e318269c3.jpg&hash=bdfa9c31c415bbd771ff720379360685c6dcd1d3)(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160427%2F41d734846873adb8e608f358bde2d64f.jpg&hash=2d3cb317670beb7ac3589b9ad123b5d8e9bb4b17)
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Keep your eyes out for this character.
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And?
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What did law enforcement do?
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That's *censored* from *censored* Outfitters
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That's *censored* from *censored* Outfitters
Interesting.
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Was this reported to law enforcement?
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Tag. love the drama threads :)
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
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Friend of Alwine?
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Great post, might as well shame people who do that crap, whether or not you reported it to the sheriff. :tup:
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Whoa :yike:
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
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Wow.
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There is no way he is trespassing, he's got $1k in Sitka gear on. :chuckle:
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It was reported and will be dealt with.
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The trespass will stand regardless of sign height. I will adjust them if it's a problem.
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
are you kidding me??
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
Gullible bunch round these parts. :chuckle:
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Looks pretty clear to me. :bash:
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Tag
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What do you expect? The guy is driving a Dodge. :yike: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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What do you expect? The guy is driving a Dodge. :yike: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Lol! Ya us dodge guys do whatever we want...I would have just drove my dodge through the field....y even get out? Haha jk so I'm assuming this is your property your hunting on? May be a dumb question
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
Really, what height is ok? :bash:
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Not mine personally but the property owner is a very good friend and I have the ability to kick people off and call authorities when someone *censored*.
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That's *censored* from *censored* Outfitters
wait a minute, he must of had that lease and lost it! Par for the course, I hunted on one of his leases from last year he messed up last weekend :chuckle:
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Sounds like you made the right choice. I was talking with my grandparents about *censored* recently. They own 3k acres and we used to go looking for *censored* back when I was in hs 20 years ago. Looking back I wouldn't do it again as the people we were catching had very little to live for...
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Tagging
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That sucks.
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
Really, what height is ok? :bash:
The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
are you kidding me??
Gullible bunch round these parts. :chuckle:
The hooks went in past the barbs!!!!!
Obviously this guy is a *censored*. Hope you have a chance to discuss his actions with him.
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Public shaming could cost him much more than legal costs. *censored* on blatently posted land is no good. If it was unposted and timber I'd cut the guy some slack for possible confusion, but this one appears obvious.
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Maybe the signs should be in Spanish so he can read it. It appears everything else is going in that direction.
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That's Brian Lewis from *censored* Outfitters
thats a FACT obviously he didnt learn form his Refuge endeavor in Glenwood this year
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Some people are so errogant they think it doesnt pertain to them... :bash: :bash:
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The one thing we don't know is if he secured a lease with the landowner or some sort of a verbal agreement that the OP didn't know about.
If *censored* charges have been filed that would rule out that he had some sort of agreement.
Maybe he made a phone call to the WDFW front desk and asked them if he could look at a turkey in a tree. They seem to be able to give permission to break the law, or at least that is what others are using as a defense.
Maybe he is the first to test the new phone in system that JDHasty was talking about using to shoot "Bullwinkle" in the other thread.
It is too bad this one individual keeps showing up in incriminating situations, not good for his business for sure.
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Westernnnn extreeeeeeme!
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there no covering for this guy hes a repeat offender!
the OP is an Upstanding person
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Westernnnn extreeeeeeme!
This is funny!!! :chuckle:
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The height of your posted signs are out of compliance with RCW 19.22.053. Just saying.
Really, what height is ok? :bash:
doesn't matter.
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I can promise you guys the landowner did not give him permission. I work that out every evening before I go there so the very few with permission know where the others are the next morning.
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Westernnnn extreeeeeeme!
It's funny. The cover photo on his Facebook page is him and Burnsworth hunting.
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I really cannot stand this type of behavior from people, especially hunters, due to the fact it taints the name of other hunters who play by the rules.
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Westernnnn extreeeeeeme!
It's funny. The cover photo on his Facebook page is him and Burnsworth hunting.
Are you kidding me! The western extreme team is at it again!? Good grief
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The one thing we don't know is if he secured a lease with the landowner or some sort of a verbal agreement that the OP didn't know about.
If *censored* charges have been filed that would rule out that he had some sort of agreement.
Maybe he made a phone call to the WDFW front desk and asked them if he could look at a turkey in a tree. They seem to be able to give permission to break the law, or at least that is what others are using as a defense.
Maybe he is the first to test the new phone in system that JDHasty was talking about using to shoot "Bullwinkle" in the other thread.
It is too bad this one individual keeps showing up in incriminating situations, not good for his business for sure.
The guy probably would have mentioned that he had permission if he did.
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Private land by law is not required to be posted ... it's solely up to the hunter to know what is private and to obtain permission to hunt, etc. Obviously some people feel that laws do not apply to them ..... :bash:
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I really cannot stand this type of behavior from people, especially hunters, due to the fact it taints the name of other hunters who play by the rules.
I can promise you guys the landowner did not give him permission. I work that out every evening before I go there so the very few with permission know where the others are the next morning.
With that said I would say things are looking pretty bad for this guy.
Looking like his only defense is going to be a possible phone call to WDFW to "see if it is okay to look at a turkey in a tree."
Sorry this guy was *censored* and messing with your hunt, irritating doesn't begin to cover it.
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The one thing we don't know is if he secured a lease with the landowner or some sort of a verbal agreement that the OP didn't know about.
If *censored* charges have been filed that would rule out that he had some sort of agreement.
Maybe he made a phone call to the WDFW front desk and asked them if he could look at a turkey in a tree. They seem to be able to give permission to break the law, or at least that is what others are using as a defense.
Maybe he is the first to test the new phone in system that JDHasty was talking about using to shoot "Bullwinkle" in the other thread.
It is too bad this one individual keeps showing up in incriminating situations, not good for his business for sure.
The guy probably would have mentioned that he had permission if he did.
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He should have and Deer Slayer has come back on and said that he confirms every night who is and who is not supposed to be on the property and this guy was not on the list of those allowed on.
I like to give guys the benefit of the doubt but I am running out of options on this one. Looks like this was a :bdid:
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Can't fix stupid.
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
Some lands that are cultivated are leased lands from schools owned properties, which is totally legal to go on. It's not *censored* either, since we own it..
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
Some lands that are cultivated are leased lands from schools owned properties, which is totally legal to go on. It's not *censored* either, since we own it..
This is not one of those.
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Did he say anything about being with *censored* or what his reason was for being there?
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
Some lands that are cultivated are leased lands from schools owned properties, which is totally legal to go on. It's not trespass either, since we own it..
This is not one of those.
I wasn't telling you.
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Did he say anything about being with *censored* or what his reason was for being there?
His picture is all over their website photo gallery.
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Photo evidence is amazing! If it were anyone else you likely couldnt do much about it... but a tv star/guide? Wowsa!
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This could become the thread of the month for HW.
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This joker is the "Johnny Manziel" of outfitters!! He is a train wreck :chuckle:
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Friend of Alwine?
Or maybe just Alwine in disguise :tup:
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Just maybe! :chuckle:
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Just maybe! :chuckle:
Is the location within two hours of Portland OR?
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Friend of Alwine?
Or maybe just Alwine in disguise :tup:
:yike:
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Heard the majestic call of a benchleg coastal blacktail being serenaded by bigfoot and was just checking it out? He had to get closer to see if it smelled right. :dunno:
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That's *censored* from *censored* Outfitters
AKA Jim Burnworth's really good friend Brian, who grew up in very similar country that he did?
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Friend of Alwine?
Or maybe just Alwine in disguise :tup:
:yike:
Just maybe! :chuckle:
Oh damn!
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He gave a ridiculous excuse. I don't want to say to much and damage the LE investigation. He did not provide his name to me. I even asked. He ignored the question. The property owner is getting very tired of *censored*. This happened in GMU 388.
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Interesting search on them...
Morgan T. Gamble
November 12, 2015 ·
*censored* Outfitters in Washington AVOID at all cost!! Dishonest *censored* that cause problems! Not good for the hunting community
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Austin Greenfield What happened?
· 1 · November 12, 2015 at 9:50pm
Chris Ward did they catch them?
· November 12, 2015 at 9:52pm
Morgan T. Gamble Yes
· 1 · November 12, 2015 at 10:12pm
Dan Hathaway Is that the one Kris Kreps is involved with ?
· 1 · November 13, 2015 at 3:24am
John Bartkowski Amen! Lol
· November 13, 2015 at 4:16am
Morgan T. Gamble Yes Dan
· November 13, 2015 at 7:01am
John Ausink Haven't they been in trouble in the past?
· November 13, 2015 at 8:07am
Morgan T. Gamble Yes several times
· November 13, 2015 at 8:23am
Amanda Justman What happened?
· November 13, 2015 at 10:05am
Jeremy Beeks It's about time they caught that guy! We don't need people like that around there.
· 1 · November 13, 2015 at 4:31pm
Morgan T. Gamble *censored* while hunting
· 1 · November 13, 2015 at 5:40pm
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
Some lands that are cultivated are leased lands from schools owned properties, which is totally legal to go on. It's not *censored* either, since we own it..
This is not one of those.
I wasn't telling you.
I understand. I was just informing the group. Sorry if I came across rude. Didn't intent on it.
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Interesting search on them...
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Good Lord!
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He gave a ridiculous excuse. I don't want to say to much and damage the LE investigation. He did not provide his name to me. I even asked. He ignored the question. The property owner is getting very tired of *censored*. This happened in GMU 388.
:tup:
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388 makes some sense. I don't know anything about the guy but what I found on a quick search. Seems odd the owner of an outfitting business would be this careless.....
Says a lot about him.
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388 makes some sense. I don't know anything about the guy but what I found on a quick search. Seems odd the owner of an outfitting business would be this careless.....
Says a lot about him.
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388 does make sense. He was probably scouting for coastal blacktails for this fall.
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I think the state should license these guys. Than so many *censored* they loose there Outfitters license.
Ya really think this guy doesn't own a gps with mapping in it? I bet he has more than one.
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388 makes some sense. I don't know anything about the guy but what I found on a quick search. Seems odd the owner of an outfitting business would be this careless.....
Says a lot about him.
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388 does make sense. He was probably scouting for coastal blacktails for this fall.
Then on to the Mount Adams Wilderness to scout for Roosevelt elk.
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Westernnnn extreeeeeeme!
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170" blacktail.......damn :yike:
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Wonder if it was all worth it? For the chance at 11# of delicious turkey meat.
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170" blacktail.......damn :yike:
We normally use an abbreviation (BT) when discussing them. Short for Burnworth Tales, not Black Tails as some had mistakenly assumed.
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We all have *censored* whether intentionally or not.
Give this young man a break as he continues to learn and grow.
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Judging from his *censored* in the past, he's not learning very fast.
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He's probably just a Bernie supporter and figures that if he doesn't own his own hunting land, someone else should give up theirs for his use. Don't you just love entitlement? :tup:
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Smoking legal weed.
Married to his partner.
Parked on the wrong side of the road.
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Welcome to Washington State.
If only black guns were outlawed none of this would have happened.
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Interesting search on them...
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for all of you that dont know this was from my facebook page
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about all i got left to say is its a good thing he dont guide the WORLD RECORD rainbow brook and catfish out of the mill pond!!! :chuckle:
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never mind decided to do alittle more research on him
https://www.clark.wa.gov/sheriff/jail-roster
search his name if it doesnt pop up!!!
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I am really surprised that with all of the crap he pulls this guy hasn't managed to crack open a Costco can of whoopass by now.
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never mind decided to do alittle more research on him
https://www.clark.wa.gov/sheriff/jail-roster
search his name if it doesnt pop up!!!
Sure this is the same guy? For what has he got community custody?
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my interpretation is that whole event that happened on the Conboy Lake National Wildlife Refuge left him on probation so this here *censored* is a violation of probation
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my interpretation is that whole event that happened on the Conboy Lake National Wildlife Refuge left him on probation so this here *censored* is a violation of probation
Oopsies!
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Change you can believe in!!
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Public road but private field and he walked out into the field? What was his excuse? Pretty hard to assume cultivated fields as public land... Good way for him to earn a bad rep.
Some lands that are cultivated are leased lands from schools owned properties, which is totally legal to go on. It's not *censored* either, since we own it..
This is not one of those.
I wasn't telling you.
I understand. I was just informing the group. Sorry if I came across rude. Didn't intent on it.
You didn't...A OK here..
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" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield
Just sayin
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Smoking legal weed.
Married to his partner.
Parked on the wrong side of the road.
*censored*
Welcome to Washington State.
If only black guns were outlawed none of this would have happened.
He didn't just park on the wrong side of the road. Are you saying *censored* is ok?
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By God he may just have cracked open a can of legal whoopass right in his face!
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I've seen it before....
Some guys get too caught up in all of it that they get to where they can't stop. I almost always ends very poorly.
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Smoking legal weed.
Married to his partner.
Parked on the wrong side of the road.
*censored*
Welcome to Washington State.
If only black guns were outlawed none of this would have happened.
He didn't just park on the wrong side of the road. Are you saying *censored* is ok?
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No I don't think it's OK.
I think the state should own his truck, his hunting gear, and some of his bank account if convicted.
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Interesting search on them...
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Is deer slayer Morgan t gamble? I saw it posted on Facebook today also and was linked to this post.
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" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield
Just sayin
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
What do you think Jackelope?
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I am not Morgan Gamble.
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Interesting search on them...
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for all of you that dont know this was from my facebook page
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I am not Morgan Gamble.
But you guys are buddies?
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i am Morgan Gamble
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,185596.0.html
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i am Morgan Gamble
Jeez how many huntwa accounts do you have?
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I am not Morgan Gamble.
But you guys are buddies?
I know Morgan. Goldendale is small. We have never hunted together. We were at the same party once.
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about 3000 last time i checked really need to get a book for passwords :o
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I am not Morgan Gamble.
But you guys are buddies?
I know Morgan. Goldendale is small. We have never hunted together. We were at the same party once.
or twice but you were drunk so it could have been forgotten :chuckle:
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I've got to apologize. I started jumping to conclusions without reading this entire thread. I don't know *censored* outfitters but am becoming more and more irked when I here about these "professionals" *censored*. For a second it seemed like someone maybe had been conspiring against this guy. I generally trust the good and or bad posts I read from this site but lately it seems like there are certain people with agendas out to ruin either a competitor or rival for what ever reason.
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The water slide. I remember that one.
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yeh good time
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I've got to apologize. I started jumping to conclusions without reading this entire thread. I don't know *censored* outfitters but am becoming more and more irked when I here about these "professionals" *censored*. For a second it seemed like someone maybe had been conspiring against this guy. I generally trust the good and or bad posts I read from this site but lately it seems like there are certain people with agendas out to ruin either a competitor or rival for what ever reason.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck...
No agenda here, but every time this guys name comes up it seems like there is some sort of controversy.
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There is no way he is *censored*, he's got $1k in Sitka gear on. :chuckle:
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Smoking legal weed.
Married to his partner.
Parked on the wrong side of the road.
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Welcome to Washington State.
If only black guns were outlawed none of this would have happened.
He didn't just park on the wrong side of the road. Are you saying *censored* is ok?
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No I don't think it's OK.
I think the state should own his truck, his hunting gear, and some of his bank account if convicted.
the landowner should own his crap, not the state. the state takes enough from the citizens as it is....
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" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield
Just sayin
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
What do you think Jackelope?
I dig.
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There is no way he is *censored*, he's got $1k in Sitka gear on. :chuckle:
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What!?!? Sitka is so yesterday. Definitely *censored* , Sitka today is yesterday's Mossy Oak.
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There is no way he is *censored*, he's got $1k in Sitka gear on. :chuckle:
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What!?!? Sitka is so yesterday. Definitely *censored*, Sitka today is yesterday's Mossy Oak.
I'm poor bro, I still wear woodland camo, realtree hardwoods, and multi-cam. :chuckle:
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There is no way he is *censored*, he's got $1k in Sitka gear on. :chuckle:
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What!?!? Sitka is so yesterday. Definitely *censored*, Sitka today is yesterday's Mossy Oak.
I'm poor bro, I still wear woodland camo, realtree hardwoods, and multi-cam. :chuckle:
:chuckle: I've washed my real tree pants so many time they'd be better suited for snow ! :chuckle:
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
Now that's funny.
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Coastal sea turkeys
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Did anybody happen to check if Burnsworthless was in the passenger seat waiting for the okay to roost bust him??
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
Stop it!
I just squirted milk out of my nose........ >:(
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
Now that's funny.
:yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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you all are being brutal this morning.
But it is Justified :chuckle:
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you all are being brutal this morning.
But it is Justified :chuckle:
These two "good friends" brought all the ridicule they get here on themselves.
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This would be a great thread for a Wall of Shame board.
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
Stop it!
I just squirted milk out of my nose........ >:(
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Did he tell you he could tell it was public land by the smell?
Stop it!
I just squirted milk out of my nose........ >:(
:chuckle:
You guys have to quit quoting this "smell" comment, I laugh out loud every time I read it again.
Hilarious. :chuckle:
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Looks like he was arrested yesterday the 27th.
165137 *censored* 4/27/2016 E3D COMMUNITY CUSTODY VIOLATION
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Good.
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Looks like he was arrested yesterday the 27th.
165137 *censored* 4/27/2016 E3D COMMUNITY CUSTODY VIOLATION
Sweet Justice!
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Looks like he was arrested yesterday the 27th.
165137 *censored* 4/27/2016 E3D COMMUNITY CUSTODY VIOLATION
Maybe he can call his "good friend" to throw bail. Jim wouldn't be a fair-weather friend, would he?
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
What guide license are you referring to?
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
What guide license are you referring to?
did I get lost in this thread? I thought the guy was from some *censored* outfitters?
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Bob33, that would look great posted on his FB page!
Birddogdad, I don't think WA has an "outfitter license". They may have a "registration" or something of the sort.
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
What guide license are you referring to?
did I get lost in this thread? I thought the guy was from some *censored* outfitters?
No guide license needed to be an outfitter in WA.
But he might have one for other states, I was just curious if you knew if he actually had a true guide license to his name.
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
What guide license are you referring to?
did I get lost in this thread? I thought the guy was from some *censored* outfitters?
Oh, he's a *censored* outfitter alright! No doubt about that.
What he has going for him is that he's the only game in town if you want to hunt a free ranging 350+ Roosevelt elk or a 170 BT (that would be Burnworth Tale) in the Mt Adams Wilderness. He's got that action locked up.
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BOB33, do things like this ever affect the ability to register as a guide or renew guide licenses?
if not is sure should!
What guide license are you referring to?
did I get lost in this thread? I thought the guy was from some *censored* outfitters?
Oh, he's a *censored* outfitter alright! No doubt about that.
What he has going for him is that he's the only game in town if you want to hunt a free ranging 350+ Roosevelt elk or a 170 BT (that would be Burnworth Tale) in the Mt Adams Wilderness. He's got that action locked up.
He'd have to be permitted by USFS to be guiding in a federal wilderness area.
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He reminds me of some wa fishing guides.
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I'm not sure if he guides inside the Wilderness Area, but he advertises that he has private land hunting adjacent to the Mt Adams Wilderness Area for Rosevelt elk & BT deer.
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He reminds me of some wa fishing guides.
He does that too.
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He'd have to be permitted by USFS to be guiding in a federal wilderness area.
To do so legally, that is correct. :tup:
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Deer Slayer, could you possibly PM me. I read this account somewhere else and would like to see if I possible know you, or some of your coworkers
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He'd have to be permitted by USFS to be guiding in a federal wilderness area.
To do so legally, that is correct. :tup:
interesting that the state doesn't control or restrict this business with validations, courses and certifications. Guess its a great place to have this kind of business. Can build it on lies, false advertising, unethical practices and no recourse. Truly a buyer be ware situation!
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Deer Slayer, could you possibly PM me. I read this account somewhere else and would like to see if I possible know you, or some of your coworkers
your in box is full. cant reply
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from the KCSO facebook page
Klickitat County Sheriff's Office
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The Klickitat County Sheriff's Office would like to remind everyone to be cautious of who's property you are on. It's turkey season and we are already having problems with trespassers. With our Posse being nearly 70 volunteers and our deputies and reserves being in the woods this time our year you never know where we will be.
On April 16, 2016 an off duty deputy was hunting north of Goldendale with family and friends on private property. The property being well posted. At daylight the deputy saw a white dodge truck pass by his location and within a minute the same truck came back northbound and parked along the road. The driver exited the truck and walked in the same direction as a turkey gobbling in his roost tree. The suspect later identified as Brian C. Lewis of Vancouver was armed with a shotgun.
The off duty deputy went and photographed his vehicle and waited for Lewis to exit the woods. After a short wait Lewis walked back to the truck and was confronted by the off duty deputy. The deputy was able to photograph him in the field.
Lewis was advised by the off duty deputy that he was trespassing. Lewis immediately said it was not what it looked like that he had seen a cougar chase down a fawn the prior night and he was there looking for the cougar that he was not turkey hunting. Lewis was dressed in full camouflage with a shotgun which is common for a turkey hunting.
The investigation has been turned over to the Washington Department of Fish and Game for unlawful hunting closed season and hunting while trespassing. Lewis is currently in custody for a probation violation stemming from this incident.
This is a reminder to all trespassers that you never know when law enforcement is in the woods. This is also a reminder to witnesses to take good pictures of people, license plates and vehicles.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838&fref=nf
Lewis was advised by the off duty deputy that he was trespassing. Lewis immediately said it was not what it looked like that he had seen a cougar chase down a fawn the prior night and he was there looking for the cougar that he was not turkey hunting. Lewis was dressed in full camouflage with a shotgun which is common for a turkey hunting.
The investigation has been turned over to the Washington Department of Fish and Game for unlawful hunting closed season and hunting while trespassing. Lewis is currently in custody for a probation violation stemming from this incident.
lol this cracks me up!!!
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from the KCSO facebook page
Klickitat County Sheriff's Office
1 hr ·
The Klickitat County Sheriff's Office would like to remind everyone to be cautious of who's property you are on. It's turkey season and we are already having problems with trespassers. With our Posse being nearly 70 volunteers and our deputies and reserves being in the woods this time our year you never know where we will be.
On April 16, 2016 an off duty deputy was hunting north of Goldendale with family and friends on private property. The property being well posted. At daylight the deputy saw a white dodge truck pass by his location and within a minute the same truck came back northbound and parked along the road. The driver exited the truck and walked in the same direction as a turkey gobbling in his roost tree. The suspect later identified as Brian C. Lewis of Vancouver was armed with a shotgun.
The off duty deputy went and photographed his vehicle and waited for Lewis to exit the woods. After a short wait Lewis walked back to the truck and was confronted by the off duty deputy. The deputy was able to photograph him in the field.
Lewis was advised by the off duty deputy that he was trespassing. Lewis immediately said it was not what it looked like that he had seen a cougar chase down a fawn the prior night and he was there looking for the cougar that he was not turkey hunting. Lewis was dressed in full camouflage with a shotgun which is common for a turkey hunting.
The investigation has been turned over to the Washington Department of Fish and Game for unlawful hunting closed season and hunting while trespassing. Lewis is currently in custody for a probation violation stemming from this incident.
This is a reminder to all trespassers that you never know when law enforcement is in the woods. This is also a reminder to witnesses to take good pictures of people, license plates and vehicles.
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But I saw a cougar. .... :chuckle:
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:yike: WOW :yike: WOW
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838&fref=nf
Lewis was advised by the off duty deputy that he was trespassing. Lewis immediately said it was not what it looked like that he had seen a cougar chase down a fawn the prior night and he was there looking for the cougar that he was not turkey hunting. Lewis was dressed in full camouflage with a shotgun which is common for a turkey hunting.
The investigation has been turned over to the Washington Department of Fish and Game for unlawful hunting closed season and hunting while trespassing. Lewis is currently in custody for a probation violation stemming from this incident.
lol this cracks me up!!!
I wonder how much equity he has in that Dodge?
Property that is used to violate any fishing and hunting regulations.... (P. 84 2016 Washington State Big Game Hunting Pamphlet)
Hopefully they have that truck secured in the evidence yard.
Maybe his "good friend" has a spare hoopty he can loan him.
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Yikes, sounds like it will be one expensive turkey hunt.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1112050195503091&id=492259454148838&fref=nf
Lewis was advised by the off duty deputy that he was trespassing. Lewis immediately said it was not what it looked like that he had seen a cougar chase down a fawn the prior night and he was there looking for the cougar that he was not turkey hunting. Lewis was dressed in full camouflage with a shotgun which is common for a turkey hunting.
The investigation has been turned over to the Washington Department of Fish and Game for unlawful hunting closed season and hunting while trespassing. Lewis is currently in custody for a probation violation stemming from this incident.
lol this cracks me up!!!
I wonder how much equity he has in that Dodge?
Property that is used to violate any fishing and hunting regulations.... (P. 84 2016 Washington State Big Game Hunting Pamphlet)
Hopefully they have that truck secured in the evidence yard.
Maybe his "good friend" Jim has a spare hoopty he can loan him.
Does Jim Burnsworth have anything to do with this incident directly? Is there any reason for you to keep dragging him through the mud in this thread?
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guilty by association i guess
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I don't like Burnsworth as much as the next guy but he didn't do anything wrong in this case.
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yes but as a staffer if i used a guide and called him my really good friend and there have been several incidences of him being in trouble with the law and dishonest i know what the companies i represent would say, cut your ties or we will. thats the nature of the game bad publicity isnt a good thing even if you not directly involved.
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Seems REAL stupid to claim hunting an animal out of season and deny Turkey hunting.... :dunno:
Here is your sign..
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But I saw a cougar. .... :chuckle:
Everyone knows you hunt cougars with 21 year old boys.
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And a cosmo.
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One of the funniest threads I've read. "I saw a couger" LMFAO!!
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Man, that's lame. He needs some schooling in excuse management.
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By God he may just have cracked open a can of legal whoopass right in his face!
More like a 55 gallon drum of industrial strength whoopass
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This is not an Eastern wild turkey, this is not an Osceola wild turkey or Florida wild turkey, this is not a Rio Grande wild turkey, this is not a Merriam's wild turkey - this is a Cougar. I grew up in Tillamook OR hunting cougars and it smells like a cougar. Besides, it is within 2 hours drive of Portland OR.
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Deer Slayer, could you possibly PM me. I read this account somewhere else and would like to see if I possible know you, or some of your coworkers
your in box is full. cant reply
I made room. Sorry.
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Does *censored* refer their clients to MN taxidermy by chance?
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I'm getting confused with all these outfitters... is this fella associated with Barbour? Didn't Barbour change the name of his business? :dunno:
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I'm getting confused with all these outfitters... is this fella associated with Barbour? Didn't Barbour change the name of his business? :dunno:
Certain outfitters maybe associate with the same client base . Barbour is up north. I think he did change the name of the business w/in the last couple years.
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Oh......the I saw a cougar kill a deer line........ I gotta remember that one ;)
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The entertainment value on this thread went Sky HIGH today!
Still in custody due to this incident being a probation violation! That smarts!
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I'm getting confused with all these outfitters... is this fella associated with Barbour? Didn't Barbour change the name of his business? :dunno:
Certain outfitters maybe associate with the same client base . Barbour is up north. I think he did change the name of the business w/in the last couple years.
Up north from where? He's from SW WA.
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Shane Barbour is out of Graham if that who you're talking about.
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Shane Barbour is out of Graham if that who you're talking about.
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I'm getting confused with all these outfitters... is this fella associated with Barbour? Didn't Barbour change the name of his business? :dunno:
Actually Shane Barbour & *censored* were both retained by the same celeb client w/in the past couple years. I am not aware of any association that goes deeper than that.
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I bet this guy regrets this particular *censored* incident....
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I bet this guy regrets this particular *censored* incident....
If regrets he got caught is what you mean - then I am with you on that.
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So I see he was arrested for Probation Violation. Appears Escape Community custody. Which means DOC is baby sitting him. Generally DOC does not baby sit unless you have a felony conviction. Felony conviction generally means you cannot chase turkeys, (or cougars) with a shotgun. Worse yet you probably should not put yourself in a situation where you get your picture taken with said shotgun. Some people never learn.
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So I see he was arrested for Probation Violation. Appears Escape Community custody. Which means DOC is baby sitting him. Generally DOC does not baby sit unless you have a felony conviction. Felony conviction generally means you cannot chase turkeys, (or cougars) with a shotgun. Worse yet you probably should not put yourself in a situation where you get your picture taken with said shotgun. Some people never learn.
probably has something to do with *censored* while hunting on a federal wildlife refuge last year during elk season on his BIG RANCH that he leased! ps he lost his lease also :o
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anybofy know if he posted bail??
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Well, bless his heart!
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
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Is it true they're remaining the business to "Pinched *censored* Outfitter"?
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
If he was in violation of his DOC release conditions he's doing an automatic 30-90 days. No questions asked. His other charges are probably in the process and could be months out.
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
If he was in violation of his DOC release conditions he's doing an automatic 30-90 days. No questions asked. His other charges are probably in the process and could be months out.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy //s//
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I call "dibs" on his fanny pack hand warmer! :chuckle:
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
If he was in violation of his DOC release conditions he's doing an automatic 30-90 days. No questions asked. His other charges are probably in the process and could be months out.
Just to clarify you do mean "if", correct? You don't know if that is true or what the DOC release conditions were related to?
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
If he was in violation of his DOC release conditions he's doing an automatic 30-90 days. No questions asked. His other charges are probably in the process and could be months out.
Just to clarify you do mean "if", correct? You don't know if that is true or what the DOC release conditions were related to?
Yes I mean if. But to be held by DOC, as an earlier post showed, and to have no bail means your serving a time out. No bail cause your not allowed to leave until you've learned your lesson. DOC can violate someone for just about anything. Generally its has to do with not checking in with your probation officer but often can result of being investigated for committing a crime.
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As of this morning he is still in jail with no bail.
Wow, that is interesting.
I would love to know what the rest of the story is.
If he was in violation of his DOC release conditions he's doing an automatic 30-90 days. No questions asked. His other charges are probably in the process and could be months out.
Just to clarify you do mean "if", correct? You don't know if that is true or what the DOC release conditions were related to?
Yes I mean if. But to be held by DOC, as an earlier post showed, and to have no bail means your serving a time out. No bail cause your not allowed to leave until you've learned your lesson. DOC can violate someone for just about anything. Generally its has to do with not checking in with your probation officer but often can result of being investigated for committing a crime.
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Wonder if this turkey hunter is going to have an elk hunter to keep him company soon
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Birds of a feather.... :chuckle:
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Wonder if this turkey hunter is going to have an elk hunter to keep him company soon
Sounds like the turkey guy uses a public defender. The elk dude keeps an attorney on retainer and speed dial.
Frequent flyer miles.
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Wonder if this turkey hunter is going to have an elk hunter to keep him company soon
Sounds like the turkey guy uses a public defender. The elk dude keeps an attorney on retainer and speed dial.
Frequent flyer miles.
Funny, so true!
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The *censored* will stand regardless of sign height. I will adjust them if it's a problem.
Shouldn't have to adjust, or even post. I was told in Washington state, there is a simpler *censored* law. It does not require posting. If you do not own the land, you better make sure who's land it is and not go on it. This came from a Washington state patrol.
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*censored* for a Turkey is like hot wiring a yugo. People are smarter today, but sadly many more just flat out disrespectful.
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The *censored* will stand regardless of sign height. I will adjust them if it's a problem.
Shouldn't have to adjust, or even post. I was told in Washington state, there is a simpler *censored* law. It does not require posting. If you do not own the land, you better make sure who's land it is and not go on it. This came from a Washington state patrol.
That is not true. Been rehashed time and time again so I am not going to go in to it but unposted, unfenced, unfarmed or undeveloped, you are not *censored*.
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Here is the definition of *censored* and it appears Humptulips is correct. http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.52.010 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.52.010)
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Well it's farmed and posted and posted well.
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Any word on the changes?
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Changes?
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Any word on the changes?
Changes?
Charges maybe? Autocorrect got him?
Are there any updates to this?
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I was wondering how this one turned out as well.
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I believe it's still pending.
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Are you sure you looked up the right *censored*? That was a DOC (department of corrections) warrant arrest. That means that *censored* was on probation with the state after committing a felony. That means if it was the person in the picture carrying a shotgun He would be committing a *censored*, possession of a firearm. You might've looked up the wrong person.
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No it was the right *censored* :chuckle:
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DOC will monitor out of state non felony probation cases.
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Should we be on the look out for this guy hunting Turkey in the coming weeks?
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Someone want to PM me the specific details on this guide?
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So I suggest more of these type of posts. On Archery Talk they have a whole thread called "Trespassers" where people post photos of people trespassing on their property(or property the lease) from trail cams mostly. Very interesting and actually has helped convict multiple people. Could be a good way for us as a community to help identify individuals that are unlawfully trespassing. just my :twocents:
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Someone want to PM me the specific details on this guide?
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