Post by: canyelk48 on May 01, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on May 01, 2016, 11:50:05 AM
Post by: Thehowler on May 01, 2016, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on May 01, 2016, 12:09:54 PM
Post by: bigtex on May 01, 2016, 12:56:04 PM
Heads up on where you decide to park! Humped over 8 miles this morning looking for sheds (came up empty), and came back to my truck that was parked on the grass where they feed the elk in the winter, and also where RV's and horse trailers park and camp out, to find a $150 ticket on my truck for violation of the Green Dot regulation. WTF is that?? Been parking in the same spot for 5 years and there are horse camps set up in the same area all Summer long. I guess F&W are hard up for money, or the Warden on duty today was just pissed off because he had to work on a Sunday. I'll be going to court on this one.The fine money goes to the county not WDFW.
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Post by: PlateauNDN on May 01, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
Post by: benhuntin on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
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Post by: dontgetcrabs on May 01, 2016, 05:22:56 PM
Building revenue for their soon to be high profile case. :chuckle:
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Post by: bigtex on May 01, 2016, 08:25:35 PM
Wardens today have there traffic quota to meet.It's not a traffic citation. There are no traffic violations in RCW 77 (the fish and wildlife code).
Post by: Thehowler on May 01, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on May 01, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
Post by: bigtex on May 01, 2016, 10:59:22 PM
Parking ticket?It's a non-traffic natural resource infraction. Just like a barbed hook or hunter orange citation.
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Post by: coachcw on May 02, 2016, 12:25:49 PM
Post by: kirkl on May 02, 2016, 02:23:53 PM
Post by: turbo on May 02, 2016, 02:46:39 PM
Parking ticket?It's a non-traffic natural resource infraction. Just like a barbed hook or hunter orange citation.
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Wow that's harsh.. Are you saying a parking ticket counts towards losing your hunting rights? If so it would be lawyer time for me..
Post by: bigtex on May 02, 2016, 03:17:01 PM
Infractions only count towards license suspension if they were a misdemeanor prior to 2005. Those that were created after 2005 as Infractions, or were Infractions prior to 2005 don't count towards license suspension. This offense has always been an infraction so it won't count towards suspension.Parking ticket?It's a non-traffic natural resource infraction. Just like a barbed hook or hunter orange citation.
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Wow that's harsh.. Are you saying a parking ticket counts towards losing your hunting rights? If so it would be lawyer time for me..
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Post by: benhuntin on May 02, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Out where we elk in the green dot system we can't be farther than 100 feet off the road or its ticket time, so 100ft and below were good. How far off the road were ya.Looked to be over 100 yards. I questioned the same truck being that far over there on our way out. We got stopped by the same game warden, asked how the kids did and said have a good day. He was stopping people for no access passes.
Post by: fastdam on May 02, 2016, 08:29:49 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on May 02, 2016, 08:46:27 PM
Such is life and at least in our area , not much got removed from the fly list just pulled some camps out of the thick timber...
Post by: Thehowler on May 02, 2016, 08:49:22 PM
Family and friends have been setting up camps well over the 100 ft limit?, off green dot roads, for years. Of course parking also.
There are many short distance off shoot roads, that dead end off green dot roads, that no longer even look like roads.
This state is maxed out on law creators.
Post by: Whitpirate on May 02, 2016, 09:19:02 PM
Out where we elk in the green dot system we can't be farther than 100 feet off the road or its ticket time, so 100ft and below were good. How far off the road were ya.Looked to be over 100 yards. I questioned the same truck being that far over there on our way out. We got stopped by the same game warden, asked how the kids did and said have a good day. He was stopping people for no access passes.
Yet they never ticket the hikers and bikers crowd at the Roost or the Subaru army at the feeding station in winter. Get really tired of being the funding vehicle for enforcement and the targeted class all year.
Post by: bigtex on May 02, 2016, 10:06:59 PM
Yes they do. Those people just don't come on hunt-wa and complain. Every year WDFW even gives state parks with authority to enforce regs at the feed station.Yet they never ticket the hikers and bikers crowd at the Roost or the Subaru army at the feeding station in winter. Get really tired of being the funding vehicle for enforcement and the targeted class all year.Out where we elk in the green dot system we can't be farther than 100 feet off the road or its ticket time, so 100ft and below were good. How far off the road were ya.Looked to be over 100 yards. I questioned the same truck being that far over there on our way out. We got stopped by the same game warden, asked how the kids did and said have a good day. He was stopping people for no access passes.
Also, WDFW enforcement gets significant funding from the general fund (taxes, not WDFW licenses).
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Post by: Whitpirate on May 03, 2016, 08:05:39 AM
Post by: canyelk48 on May 03, 2016, 10:40:55 AM
Post by: quadrafire on May 03, 2016, 11:03:04 AM
Post by: huntandjeep on May 03, 2016, 11:09:07 AM
Could someone explain the green dot and 100 ft rule? I've not heard of itAround here roads have a white picket @ the start of a road , on the picket is a green dot. If you don't see a white picket when you turn on a road it closed. You can drive no farther than 100' down a non green dot road.
Post by: quadrafire on May 03, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
Yakima area?Could someone explain the green dot and 100 ft rule? I've not heard of itAround here roads have a white picket @ the start of a road , on the picket is a green dot. If you don't see a white picket when you turn on a road it closed. You can drive no farther than 100' down a non green dot road.
Post by: Dan-o on May 03, 2016, 12:07:11 PM
Post by: runamuk on May 03, 2016, 12:20:26 PM
Could someone explain the green dot and 100 ft rule? I've not heard of it
here is a green dot map of Lt Murray
http://waatva.org/documents/maps/LTMurray_GreenDot.pdf (http://waatva.org/documents/maps/LTMurray_GreenDot.pdf)
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 03, 2016, 03:36:17 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 03, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 03, 2016, 03:47:37 PM
Their public meeting recently is a prime example. There were more man hours dedicated to discussing a 10 year plan than were used executing the last ten year plan in 2006.
Post by: kirkl on May 03, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
Guess it's my bad, but in my defense, I've been parking in the same area for years, right alongside people who have set up camps, other parked rigs, etc. To make matters worse, when I look out my window at home on various weekends during the Summer, I see the entire valley behind the hay barn is filled with horse trailers, RV's, campers, etc., for weekend riding events. Never hear of them being a ticketed. Ignorance is no excuse, but a simple warning would have had the same corrective measures for doing something that appears to have been allowed throughout the shed hunting, riding and camping seasons.
I see favorites being played a lot in selah area. Horse backers get a lot of leways. Also we hunt modern rifle and I've seen ML hunters farther than 100ft and nothing happens but I think the land manager out there is a ML hunter and he questions us, gave my dad a ticket a few years ago before we even knew about the rule but you go 5 miles past our camp and there's a camp 400 feet off the road and they done get anything.
Post by: huntandjeep on May 03, 2016, 04:43:06 PM
YesYakima area?Could someone explain the green dot and 100 ft rule? I've not heard of itAround here roads have a white picket @ the start of a road , on the picket is a green dot. If you don't see a white picket when you turn on a road it closed. You can drive no farther than 100' down a non green dot road.
Post by: wags on May 03, 2016, 04:59:49 PM
A few years ago I came back to my truck and found a ticket on the windshield for not having a SnoPark permit; I did have one. I assumed the DNR LEO who was at the lot put it on my truck. I tracked him down and gave him an ear-full. Poor guy just stared at me with a bewildered look on his face. He asked to see the ticket. He let out a laugh and said something like "don't fish and wildlife have better things to do than troll through my lot".
I asked him what was wrong with how the permit was displayed in the windshield, he said "nothing, but your windshield could be a bit cleaner" (the note on the ticket said "permit not properly displayed"). I fought the ticket in the CleElum Court and beat it completely.
Nothing surprises me from our WDFW.
Post by: Thehowler on May 03, 2016, 08:30:13 PM
Post by: bigtex on May 03, 2016, 08:50:43 PM
Protecting wildlife 24-7 with a parking ticket book.FYI, sno-park and green dot road tickets aren't parking citations.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on May 04, 2016, 10:47:08 AM
Protecting wildlife 24-7 with a parking ticket book.FYI, sno-park and green dot road tickets aren't parking citations.
same difference- The officers clearly should be replaced with less expensive parking code enforcement officers. They don't have to drive expensive to outfit rigs and have extensive on going training and certifications. Also, the insurance we would pay via required accreditation (for the State to have an officer) would no longer be an issue. Just another normal State employee.
It is obvious based upon all the parking tickets(no discover pass or parking off a green dot) is an issue a simple code enforcement person is all that is needed. :chuckle:
Remember, when we write letters to our representatives, tell them we feel it is ok to cut the WDFW budget and enforcement officers and area managers who put up no parking signs should be the first to lose their jobs. If we are unhappy with the service we are getting, cut the budget and support budget cuts.
I'm becoming more convinced that State Patrol should be in charge of enforcement. Leave WDFW the biologists to focus on raising fish and increasing our deer and elk herds.
Post by: canyelk48 on May 14, 2016, 05:36:59 PM
Post by: Thehowler on May 14, 2016, 06:46:44 PM
Opportunity, state law,money grab.
You boys get out there and write those parking tickets. :chuckle:
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on May 14, 2016, 07:47:53 PM
Post by: hunterofelk on May 15, 2016, 07:01:13 AM
Post by: runamuk on May 15, 2016, 07:05:44 AM
Yes I think you should take that photo in to contest the ticket, but I am wondering if that is the Washington State Horse Riders-or a similar club-having a weekend camp and maybe they got a permit to camp that many from the state. I see something like that on Memorial Day weekend too.
the one you are talking about is the John Wayne trail ride its a huge annual event. http://www.jwpwr.org/cross-state-ride-2015/ (http://www.jwpwr.org/cross-state-ride-2015/) so my guess is they have special use permits from the state.
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