Post by: Antlershed on February 01, 2009, 02:42:40 PM
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Post by: Hacksaw on February 01, 2009, 02:52:06 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on February 01, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
What scope is it?I thought he put a Ziess on it?
Post by: bobcat on February 01, 2009, 03:48:30 PM
Post by: jmkuhlman on February 01, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 01, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
I went to Cabelas and they put the bore-sighter on it, and I could see the crosshairs moving around just fine. I will go back out to the range next weekend and give it another go. There was a guy 3 benches down from me that said he had the same problem with his Zeiss a few years ago.
Post by: bobcat on February 01, 2009, 11:00:27 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 01, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
When they mounted the rings, I watched, and they had the two rods with points on them that they put through the rings to make sure they are aligned properly.
Post by: bobcat on February 01, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 01, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
The Jewell trigger is sweet. :drool: I have it set at 2.5lbs, and I was wondering if it would be too light, but I can still rest my finger on the trigger before pulling it, and it is so smooth. It will stay at 2.5, and I will soon be ordering one for my VTR.
The muzzlebrake is great. The recoil was about that of a .243. I shot 20 rounds through it, and I never felt a single one. As for the sound, to the shooter it is quieter than my VTR with the brake is. To the people to the left and right....I heard one guy say to a group of others after I had shot a few times, "I still don't think that thing is loud enough." They were shooting some cannons too though (I was sitting at the bench next to them later on). :chuckle:
Post by: HawkenBob on February 02, 2009, 07:32:58 AM
You really need to shoot a non braker 300RUM to truely appreciate what you have there. ;)
Post by: ICEMAN on February 02, 2009, 07:38:11 AM
Post by: JoshT on February 02, 2009, 08:36:21 AM
How do you guys hunt with those brakes on? They seem so damned loud, I can imagine that you are deafened in the field after your shot? I would rather take the recoil from my RUM than get field deafend for a while... :dunno:
I shoot the exact same rifle as antlershed... with the same Defensive Edge break. I've fired several shots in the field with no hearing protection... it hasn't bothered me at all. They're loud to those in the near vicinity... but to the shooter I can't tell the difference. When you hunt by yourself... it's important to see what happens with the shot... rather than guess because the recoil blew you off... hence the break. I'd also rather practice my shooting under field conditions than spend time at a bench (where you can wear your Pact recoil pad and seeing impact means nothing)... so, the break allows me to shoot 5 times as many rounds prone or off the sticks... than I could without the break. To each their own... but I'll put a break on anything bigger than 7mm that's using more than 70 grains of powder.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 02, 2009, 09:07:53 AM
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Post by: Antlershed on February 02, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
The scope wasn't running out of adjustment at the range, but it did when I was bore sighting it again yesterday because the bore sighter was too low compared to the scope. When it runs out of adjustment, the dial doesn't turn anymore.
Post by: Moose Eyes on February 02, 2009, 10:46:33 AM
They're loud to those in the near vicinity...
That they are! But that is usually only a concern at the range. I have never been a fan of them but I have never used them. Only been next to them at the range.
You make some good points for using one, JoshT.
Post by: Stadle on February 02, 2009, 11:11:28 AM
as far as others at the range, he who does not wear ear protection at the range these days....
Post by: Antlershed on February 02, 2009, 11:20:41 AM
Post by: JoshT on February 02, 2009, 11:36:32 AM
Also, the noise down-range is greatly reduced with a break. I noticed this when my buddy took a shot at a coyote (with another rifle that's exactly like antlersheds... hmmm... maybe I gave ol'antlershed a few too many suggestions on long-range hunting rifles?), I was to the right about 100 yards... and downrange about 50 yards... I barely heard the shot, and never would have been able to locate the shooter without already knowing where he was. I don't think that makes any difference to the shooter... but it could be good if a follow-up shot is required... or there's multiple bogies inbound.
Post by: dbllunger on February 02, 2009, 11:44:16 AM
Post by: Antlershed on February 02, 2009, 11:45:27 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 02, 2009, 07:19:55 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 18, 2009, 06:30:36 PM
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Post by: Backstraps on February 18, 2009, 06:36:59 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 18, 2009, 06:38:13 PM
Post by: bucklucky on February 18, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
Post by: haugenna on February 18, 2009, 09:23:34 PM
How do you guys hunt with those brakes on? They seem so damned loud, I can imagine that you are deafened in the field after your shot? I would rather take the recoil from my RUM than get field deafend for a while... :dunno:
ICEMAN,
I like my hearing and the accubrake on my weatherby is loud. I use QB2's in the field. They are quick to the ears and great for muffling the sound when shooting any rifle, brake or no brake. Hearing is too important.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 18, 2009, 11:28:04 PM
How do you guys hunt with those brakes on? They seem so damned loud, I can imagine that you are deafened in the field after your shot? I would rather take the recoil from my RUM than get field deafend for a while... :dunno:
ICEMAN,
I like my hearing and the accubrake on my weatherby is loud. I use QB2's in the field. They are quick to the ears and great for muffling the sound when shooting any rifle, brake or no brake. Hearing is too important.
Gotta agree with Ice here too. I had a 300 Win Mag with a brake on it, and it shot just fine at the range... but in the field...?
my hearing is already shot from too many years in the Army not wearing earplugs 'cause I thought being a team/squad/platoon sergeant I always had to hear what was going on...
I sold the gun.
Post by: GoldTip on February 19, 2009, 06:42:07 AM
Post by: Antlershed on February 19, 2009, 09:33:38 AM
How much was that scope price from Bobs?$799
Post by: Antlershed on February 19, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
Was that group all at 25 yards? If so here is one thing I have not seen mentioned. Remember each click at 25 yards only moves the 1/16". You would need to move the scope 16 clicks to get the group to move one inch at 15 yards, so not terribly surprising that you were not noticing the group much as you've described. Your group appeared to be off by as much as 4" which would require the scope to be moved 64 clicks to the left to bring it to dead nuts on the bullseye at 25 yards.Yeah, I realize that, but it wouldn't move at all. Anyway, I got it dialed in, but now have a new scope, so I gotta start over. Oh well.
Post by: GoldTip on February 19, 2009, 10:31:36 AM
Post by: Antlershed on February 19, 2009, 11:35:32 AM
Post by: mossback91 on February 19, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
By the way thats an awesome looking gun :drool:
Post by: Antlershed on February 19, 2009, 12:57:21 PM
Post by: haugenna on February 20, 2009, 09:56:28 PM
I just gotta get ahold of a bore-sighter before this weekend. I tried doing it at home by placing a target on the wall and looking down the barrel, but I don't know if that worked so well. I may just have to break down and buy one...
Save your money. The way you described it above is exactly how you do it.
I am on paper at 100 yards every time doing it the way you described it above. At the range, put the gun in the rest, front and rear bags, pull the bolt and put the center of the target in the center of the bore. Move the scope to the center of the target. Boom, you're on paper!
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Post by: bobcat on February 21, 2009, 09:10:54 AM
Maybe it's a good thing I haven't ever used a boresighter. I use the same old fashioned method haugenna mentioned above. Works great. Only with bolt action rifles though.
Post by: ICEMAN on February 21, 2009, 09:12:20 AM
Plus, I can see this happen.
All the more reason to always have a buddy to help as an extra safety check.....Of course we always treat all weapons as always loaded.... I still always say aloud..."this is for real" when I bring ammo to gun.
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 22, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 22, 2009, 10:33:14 PM
That 6.5-20 would be nice, especially if you take a shot at the clay bank. :) I would just worry about a close shot opportunity like we talked about.
Post by: JoshT on February 23, 2009, 09:42:49 AM
How do you think the recoil rates vs. other calibers? I think my .300 RUM with that same break feels about the same as my .25-06.
Post by: Antlershed on February 23, 2009, 11:20:55 AM
Post by: JoshT on February 23, 2009, 11:40:57 AM
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 23, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 23, 2009, 04:39:58 PM
To me it felt like I was shooting my AR. :IBCOOL:Well.....did you buy one today? :hello:
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 23, 2009, 05:00:12 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 23, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 23, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Post by: JoshT on February 24, 2009, 06:42:51 AM
Bigger is better especially for only 20 bucks more, so quit yer :'(
Had a girl Vegas tell me that once... not quite sure what she meant?
Hope you pick one up... that'd be 4 of them owned by guys on the site, built pretty much the same. I went the opposite direction as you guys on glass though. I'm mounting up a 3.5-10 w/M-1 turret on mine, in Talley's. I shot a 4.5-14 Leupold on it last year... but I've decided to consolodate glass. I also replaced the current stock with the old style Sendero stock and went with light-weight rings... mine weighs almost two pounds less than antlershed's (my buddy has the exact same set-up as 'shed). It's trully addicting to launch that big a projectile and pay such a small price on the butt-end of the rifle.
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 24, 2009, 04:22:24 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 24, 2009, 05:01:11 PM
Post by: JoshT on February 24, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
How much did that stock run ya,
Pretty much a straight up swap for with the one that came on it. I sold the Sendero II stock, and bought the old style stock. The old stock is a lot more like a sporter stock, no palm swell and less vertical in the grip area, smaller in the butt area, much smaller beavertail forend, etc. Nothing wrong with the new one... mine shot great, I just like the other one because it feels just like the stock on my .25-06 (also an HSP).
I'm pretty convinced that 14x is all you'll ever need... even out to 1200 yards which is the furthest I've run mine. 20x is cool... but I don't think it's very practical anywhere but the bench. Like I said... I'm dropping down to 10x... and I don't think I'll have any problems on the 20"x20" gong that I typically shoot out to 1k. It may cost me a little in group size... but I don't think I'll be giving anything up in the hitting schitt department.
They're sweet man... especially when you get handloading some of the super slick bullets like the 208 Amax and the 210 Berger. Mine likes the Berger with Retumbo at about 3150... my buddy shoots the Amax (also with Retumbo) at about the same velocity. Some worry about shooting "match" bullets at big game... I don't have a problem with it. Here's a 208 Amax recovered under the off hide of a 250 pound black bear shot at 553 yards this year... he went right down. The lead was still in the bullet... but fell out when the bullet was removed from the hide. Broke a couple of ribs on both sides... and the clockwork looked like about 3 gallons of raspberry jam.
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