Post by: alwaysontop on May 18, 2016, 09:18:30 PM
Post by: Bango skank on May 18, 2016, 09:20:27 PM
Post by: huntnphool on May 18, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
Just recieved a letter from WDFW
I doubt that letter would have ever made it to my house, it likely would have been lost somewhere at USPS. :rolleyes:
Post by: Mfowl on May 18, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Just recieved a letter from WDFW about how I am one out of 100 people whe incorrectly received a Multiple Season Elk letter instead of a Multiple Season Deer Letter. But WDFW website said that I got drawn for both deer and elk multi seasons and recieved letters for both deer and elk. I have already bought my multi season elk tag and put in for eastside tags when I dont even hunt the eastside unless i draw multi elk. How could they do this to people on the last day of submitting permits. What a joke! Oh but you will recieve two points for the error.
You already bought the MS elk tag and the letter is saying it is invalid? If I had a tag in hand I'd hunt it!
Post by: Rainier10 on May 18, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
I think some got a letter saying multiseason elk and didn't actually draw MS elk. If you got an elk letter and didn't really draw elk you have to show them the letter and then you get your 2 points. If you don't have a letter you don't get the points.
Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2016, 09:31:50 PM
Post by: crowinghen on May 18, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Just recieved a letter from WDFW about how I am one out of 100 people whe incorrectly received a Multiple Season Elk letter instead of a Multiple Season Deer Letter. But WDFW website said that I got drawn for both deer and elk multi seasons and recieved letters for both deer and elk. I have already bought my multi season elk tag and put in for eastside tags when I dont even hunt the eastside unless i draw multi elk. How could they do this to people on the last day of submitting permits. What a joke! Oh but you will recieve two points for the error.I would think they would not have sold you a m/s elk if you hadn't been drawn and the website was probably accurate if they sold you a tag.
I also go the letter today, but my m/s letter said deer, not elk. ( it was correct)
I did buy my m/s deer tag and got someone else's fishing license in the mail instead of my m/s deer tag. :( who knows where my tag went, but I called them about it and they say they are fixing it...
Post by: RadSav on May 18, 2016, 09:32:55 PM
Post by: crowinghen on May 18, 2016, 09:33:03 PM
If you already bought the multi season elk tag- keep it!
:yeah:
Post by: Bango skank on May 18, 2016, 09:34:42 PM
If you already bought the multi season elk tag- keep it!
Yeah, and send in your letter for your two points :tup:
Post by: Mfowl on May 18, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
Post by: huntnphool on May 18, 2016, 09:38:12 PM
By giving extra points to those people that actually were involved, it puts EVERYONE ELSE behind.
Now I'm not saying those of you effected by their mistake should not be compensated, I'm just saying it should not come at the expense of the rest of us, hope that makes sense. :twocents:
Post by: liljozie495 on May 18, 2016, 09:40:05 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on May 18, 2016, 09:40:53 PM
What's interesting is that WDFW screws up, and their solution is to screw everyone else.
By giving extra points to those people that actually were involved, it puts EVERYONE ELSE behind.
Now I'm not saying those of you effected by their mistake should not be compensated, I'm just saying it should not come at the expense of the rest of us, hope that makes sense. :twocents:
Point system is stupid anyways. Just another example of WDFW incompetence
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on May 18, 2016, 09:41:45 PM
Should we be nervous about the special permit results?...This is shaping up to be a rough year for WDFW.
I feel the opposite with my one point in sheep and goat WDFW might be giving me a chance! In reality good luck everyone.
Post by: X-Force on May 18, 2016, 09:43:06 PM
Post by: pd on May 18, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
If you already bought the multi season elk tag- keep it!
Yeah, and send in your letter for your two points :tup:
:yeah:
Post by: alwaysontop on May 18, 2016, 09:50:40 PM
Post by: emac on May 18, 2016, 09:55:06 PM
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Post by: scottfrick on May 18, 2016, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: alwaysontop on May 18, 2016, 10:02:53 PM
Post by: buglebuster on May 18, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Post by: TheSkyBuster on May 18, 2016, 10:16:47 PM
A: WDFW sent out 100 letters saying people were selected for MS elk when they actually were not. The people who received the letters were not selected in the system, WDFW website shows "Not-selected" and they were unable to purchase the MS elk tag.
B: WDFW selected 100 extra people for MS elk in the system, WDFW website shows "selected", and these people were able to purchase a MS elk tag. and apply for permits. Now WDFW wants to revoke these tags.
Now for the fun part:
The letters they send out saying you are selected for Multi-Season are generic and have no name or wild ID. In the case of option A anyone who was not selected for MS elk should be able to mail in a letter (or copy of the letter) and claim their 2 points. Unless WDFW really has their ducks in a row and knows exactly who they mailed what letter to. :chuckle: Can someone who was selected for MS elk please scan and Email me their letter?
Post by: TheSkyBuster on May 18, 2016, 10:18:35 PM
I drew both it said online so I went and bought my ms elk permit well before I received any letter. Later received both deer and elk letters, and today the letter about the mistake. I called and the lady told me that 110 people got the elk letter instead of the deer letter by accident. They don't know who those people were, so they sent the letter to everyone why may have been affected. She said if you were able to purchase the tag from a vendor, you are good to go. If you weren't, you were one of the people who shouldn't have gotten the selected letter.
Option A it is, And WDFW has no clue. I really need a copy of the "Selected" letter. :IBCOOL:
Post by: emac on May 18, 2016, 10:22:11 PM
I see two possibilities hereI see what you did there
A: WDFW sent out 100 letters saying people were selected for MS elk when they actually were not. The people who received the letters were not selected in the system, WDFW website shows "Not-selected" and they were unable to purchase the MS elk tag.
B: WDFW selected 100 extra people for MS elk in the system, WDFW website shows "selected", and these people were able to purchase a MS elk tag. and apply for permits. Now WDFW wants to revoke these tags.
Now for the fun part:
The letters they send out saying you are selected for Multi-Season are generic and have no name or wild ID. In the case of option A anyone who was not selected for MS elk should be able to mail in a letter (or copy of the letter) and claim their 2 points. Unless WDFW really has their ducks in a row and knows exactly who they mailed what letter to. :chuckle: Can someone who was selected for MS elk please scan and Email me their letter?
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Post by: mfswallace on May 18, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
Post by: X-Force on May 18, 2016, 10:38:48 PM
Wouldn't a better option be to just admit there mistake without screwing everyone else by giving points away :bash:
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
Ding. Ding. Ding
Post by: chester on May 18, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Wouldn't a better option be to just admit there mistake without screwing everyone else by giving points away :bash:
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
Ding. Ding. Ding
It would work for deer, but for elk there is no guarantee there will be 100 permits left over.
Post by: Ddouble on May 18, 2016, 10:42:38 PM
Post by: mfswallace on May 18, 2016, 10:45:54 PM
Wouldn't a better option be to just admit there mistake without screwing everyone else by giving points away :bash:
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
Ding. Ding. Ding
It would work for deer, but for elk there is no guarantee there will be 100 permits left over.
Who needs to guarantee anything, it was a mistake. It happens, especially in this WDFW. 2 wrongs don't make a right
I guarantee if they give points away for THEIR F-up ALOT of peoples odds just got worse for next year
Post by: muleyslayer on May 18, 2016, 10:56:23 PM
Should we be nervous about the special permit results?...This is shaping up to be a rough year for WDFW.There's no way I'm returning my coveted quality deer tag that I am going to draw! :chuckle:
Post by: Bango skank on May 18, 2016, 10:59:08 PM
Wouldn't a better option be to just admit there mistake without screwing everyone else by giving points away :bash:
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
Which is why somebody who hot that letter needs to scan and email it to me.
Post by: buglebrush on May 18, 2016, 11:35:19 PM
Wouldn't a better option be to just admit there mistake without screwing everyone else by giving points away :bash:
Or at the very least put those people on a list as the first people that can purchase left over tags :twocents:
:yike:
Post by: PolarBear on May 18, 2016, 11:49:29 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on May 19, 2016, 12:00:11 AM
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2016, 01:50:00 AM
The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected! Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn. Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad. I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer. Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter. That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points. So the state is not putting 200 points into the system. They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter. Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters. So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.
This should minimally effect next years draw. Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing. Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me. And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?
Post by: Jpmiller on May 19, 2016, 06:32:20 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on May 19, 2016, 07:05:45 AM
For those who are all kinds of worked up over this. There are bigger things worth putting your effort into. :twocents:
Post by: BNAElkhntr on May 19, 2016, 07:25:40 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 19, 2016, 08:17:25 AM
Post by: mfswallace on May 19, 2016, 08:28:52 AM
Seems the states mistake has put them in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Hard to blame them for trying to give a positive solution to those small few who truly wound up effected.
The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected! Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn. Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad. I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer. Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter. That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points. So the state is not putting 200 points into the system. They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter. Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters. So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.
This should minimally effect next years draw. Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing. Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me. And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?
I understand special applications were affected and some financial refunds might be in order but...
because someone got there hopes up they should get a big (2 points is 3 YEARS when they apply next year) advantage over everyone. I have 8 points and might just be bitter :chuckle:
Post by: buglebrush on May 19, 2016, 11:31:01 AM
I am with you totally on the above quote. Has always immensely ticked me off that people get the tag only for special draws. We should have to front the money up front with no refunds if drawn. Been applying for six years with no luck, and it does tick me off that people apply and don't purchase. And then, to add insult to injury, rather than have a second drawing they do a first come first served right during business hours for the left-overs. :bash:
Post by: johnsc6 on May 19, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
If you were one of the real100. the online system would show not selected and you would not have been able to purchase one anyway...why should I be compensated for that?
WDFW = :bash:
Post by: johnsc6 on May 19, 2016, 11:36:55 AM
You must still have the letter to prove you were one of the 100....., Who in the hell would keep and old rejection letter?
If you were one of the real100. the online system would show not selected and you would not have been able to purchase one anyway...why should I be compensated for that?
WDFW = :bash:
I misquoted here its not a "rejection letter" , but it doesn't mean anything, the computer has the facts.
Post by: b0bbyg on May 19, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
I have to agree with some of the previous posts, Don't get so worked up people.
my :twocents:
If it was really just 100 people I would have said let them have the tag and take their points. If there are extras ( not purchased) at the end subtract those from the 100 extra given out. Then there is still about the same amount given out this year. Next year every thing is back to the standard.
I would have to admit if I were one of the actual 100 people I would have been irritated.
Post by: mfswallace on May 19, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on May 19, 2016, 05:16:50 PM
Seems the states mistake has put them in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Hard to blame them for trying to give a positive solution to those small few who truly wound up effected.The part in here where you say hunters knowingly apply with no intention on buying the tag,Who are you talking about?I don't recall anyone saying they put in for multi-season (spending the money and the time)to screw other hunters out of a tag.This is not a true statement.People only said that they would not buy the tag if they draw or don't draw something else,That is totally different than not having any intention of buying it when they put in for it. :twocents: That's the same as people saying that new hunters shouldn't put in for quality bull because it hurts the odds of the people that have been putting in for 20 years.
The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected! Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn. Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad. I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer. Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter. That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points. So the state is not putting 200 points into the system. They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter. Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters. So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.
This should minimally effect next years draw. Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing. Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me. And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?
Post by: grundy53 on May 19, 2016, 06:13:18 PM
Actually, in the past there have been people who openly state they put in for it with no intention to purchase the tag. They think they are sticking it to the state.Seems the states mistake has put them in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Hard to blame them for trying to give a positive solution to those small few who truly wound up effected.The part in here where you say hunters knowingly apply with no intention on buying the tag,Who are you talking about?I don't recall anyone saying they put in for multi-season (spending the money and the time)to screw other hunters out of a tag.This is not a true statement.People only said that they would not buy the tag if they draw or don't draw something else,That is totally different than not having any intention of buying it when they put in for it. :twocents: That's the same as people saying that new hunters shouldn't put in for quality bull because it hurts the odds of the people that have been putting in for 20 years.
The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected! Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn. Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad. I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer. Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter. That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points. So the state is not putting 200 points into the system. They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter. Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters. So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.
This should minimally effect next years draw. Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing. Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me. And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?
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Post by: Oh Mah on May 19, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
Post by: Igor on May 19, 2016, 07:11:09 PM
Erase your posts and keep the tags. That's as bad as being told you won Miss Universe and then told you really didn't. Probably worse.
Yeah, I got the letter saying I really didn't win the Miss Universe....................I'm SO confused !!
Post by: NOCK NOCK on May 19, 2016, 08:59:52 PM
Erase your posts and keep the tags. That's as bad as being told you won Miss Universe and then told you really didn't. Probably worse.
Yeah, I got the letter saying I really didn't win the Miss Universe....................I'm SO confused !!
That's cause your peeing in the wrong bathroom :chuckle:
:peep:
Post by: WAnoob on May 20, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 20, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
I got one of these letters last night even though it does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. :dunno:
If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. :dunno: And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.
Post by: tonymiller7 on May 20, 2016, 12:13:01 PM
Post by: b0bbyg on May 20, 2016, 04:19:10 PM
I got one of these letters last night even though it does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. :dunno:
If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. :dunno: And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.
I was the same as noob. I did not get the tag based on the data online, also did not get a letter saying I was chosen. I did get the apology letter.
Post by: asl20bball on May 20, 2016, 05:04:44 PM
Post by: SteelheadTed on May 20, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
If they got the letter but were not drawn they wont be able to purchase the tag?They are out nothing and should be awarded no points.If they planned their hunts around a letter without the tag in hand they are fools. :twocents:
That is a bit extreme. If they got a letter letting them know they won it is quite reasonable that they would make plans based on that letter. Why should they disbelieve a letter sent to them by WDFW?
Post by: WAnoob on May 20, 2016, 06:35:36 PM
I got one of these letters last night even though it does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. :dunno:
If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. :dunno: And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.
I got a letter stating I MAY have been part of the error, didn't say I had an error and was falsely awarded. Let's face it every forum has its whiners, if it bugged me that bad I wouldn't be on any of them. Mistakes happen in all lines of customer service including government agencies. Sure it sucks my question is what are you going to do about it? :dunno: 99.99% of the people on this thread will just complain that someone pissed in their cheerio's for a couple of weeks then it will be old news.
Granted my jab may have been too soon..I do feel bad for the falsely awarded people but who are you to say I applied for a permit without the intention of purchasing it? I put in for both deer and elk and got drawn for multi-deer.
Post by: Oh Mah on May 20, 2016, 08:47:51 PM
If they got the letter but were not drawn they wont be able to purchase the tag?They are out nothing and should be awarded no points.If they planned their hunts around a letter without the tag in hand they are fools. :twocents:
That is a bit extreme. If they got a letter letting them know they won it is quite reasonable that they would make plans based on that letter. Why should they disbelieve a letter sent to them by WDFW?
I don't think what i said was extreme at all.You and i both know long before this mistake came out whether we drew or not,Knowing that online it said not selected then a letter weeks later saying you drew.How excited should you be and how far would you plan a trip before trying to purchase the tag?Me and most i would say is not far maybe the closest dealer then all plans stop.To many people in the world try to capitalize on mistakes made by others. :twocents:
Post by: jvt on May 21, 2016, 09:44:17 AM
is the screw up only for elk?
Post by: bobcat on May 21, 2016, 10:01:28 AM
I got drawn for multi deer season and I bought the deer tag on line and it wasn't sent.
is the screw up only for elk?
This sounds like something entirely different. Like your mail got lost, or stolen. Or yes, it could be that it wasn't mailed.
I would suggest calling the WDFW licensing division on Monday. 360-902-2464
Post by: mfswallace on May 21, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 21, 2016, 10:10:50 AM
What a screwed up year for wdfw licensing :bash:Was this the year they were switching over from Outdoor Central to another contractor?
Post by: jvt on May 21, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
online says I bought one.
Post by: mfswallace on May 21, 2016, 10:21:47 AM
Post by: jkthomps on May 21, 2016, 07:40:19 PM
I received one as well. Here is a copy for those of you that did not receive one...
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Post by: Wenatcheejay on May 21, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
But, I'm just a looser not selected for anything as of yet.
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Post by: pd on May 21, 2016, 10:42:42 PM
What a screwed up year for wdfw licensing :bash:Was this the year they were switching over from Outdoor Central to another contractor?
WDFW is in the process of bidding the licensing software program right now. There was a request for proposals out just a few weeks ago.
I think Outdoor Central does a good job, both here and in Idaho. But I also think a complete re-write of the program is necessary. This thing about first buying a special permits application, and then submitting the same application, is an obvious tip-off to a system add on at some point in the past.
Post by: crowinghen on May 21, 2016, 10:52:39 PM
I got drawn for multi deer season and I bought the deer tag on line and it wasn't sent.
is the screw up only for elk?
This sounds like something entirely different. Like your mail got lost, or stolen. Or yes, it could be that it wasn't mailed.
I would suggest calling the WDFW licensing division on Monday. 360-902-2464
Give them a call on Monday-
I bought the tag and got someone else's fishing license in the mail :dunno:
Post by: crowinghen on May 21, 2016, 10:57:48 PM
I would be disappointed if I had thought I was drawn and then not being able to buy the tag that would have pissed me off... but I knew per the computer that I hadn't been selected.
So I wouldn't have spent any money on special permits because I hadn't actually gotten my m/s elk.
Post by: snake on May 21, 2016, 11:00:12 PM
Post by: crowinghen on May 21, 2016, 11:04:56 PM
If you got the tag hunt every weapon, say you never received a letter about the mistake. It will hold up in court every time!
You wouldn't have goten the tag because the letter of congrats was mailed to the wrong people, in the computer system it had it correct ( drawn or not draw) they wouldn't have sold you the tag if the computer said you were not drawn.
Post by: TheSkyBuster on May 21, 2016, 11:07:35 PM
If you got the tag hunt every weapon, say you never received a letter about the mistake. It will hold up in court every time!
You wouldn't have goten the tag because the letter of congrats was mailed to the wrong people, in the computer system it had it correct ( drawn or not draw) they wouldn't have sold you the tag if the computer said you were not drawn.
:yeah:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on May 22, 2016, 07:34:21 AM
Post by: Alaska316 on May 22, 2016, 10:36:14 AM
Post by: snake on May 22, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
Post by: jvt on May 24, 2016, 06:59:15 AM
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup
then turn in your points and see if it gets removed.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 24, 2016, 07:04:00 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on May 24, 2016, 07:09:58 AM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on May 24, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
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Post by: SteelheadTed on May 24, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
If they got the letter but were not drawn they wont be able to purchase the tag?They are out nothing and should be awarded no points.If they planned their hunts around a letter without the tag in hand they are fools. :twocents:
That is a bit extreme. If they got a letter letting them know they won it is quite reasonable that they would make plans based on that letter. Why should they disbelieve a letter sent to them by WDFW?
I don't think what i said was extreme at all.You and i both know long before this mistake came out whether we drew or not,Knowing that online it said not selected then a letter weeks later saying you drew.How excited should you be and how far would you plan a trip before trying to purchase the tag?Me and most i would say is not far maybe the closest dealer then all plans stop.To many people in the world try to capitalize on mistakes made by others. :twocents:
You're assuming everyone checks online. For a lot of the old timers, that isn't the case. Hi old timers!
I agree with the general sentiment on capitalizing on others mistakes, but I don't think taking correspondence from WDFW at face value was an error on the part of the hunter or a capitalization of their mistake. I was mostly taking issue with the "planning around a letter" comment you made, I wasn't arguing they should get points, just that it was reasonable to start planning based on the letter.
Post by: emac on May 24, 2016, 08:24:20 PM
I sent my original letter back to them for proof. I just got a letter back saying they are going to award me 2 elk points for multi season elkDid you actually draw the permit or were you one of the 100 that actually didn't
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Post by: cbond3318 on June 23, 2016, 10:15:53 PM
Not sure if I am more concerned with WDFW or the USPS. :chuckle:
Post by: PWN Kurt on July 01, 2016, 01:34:32 AM