Post by: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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Post by: NWWA Hunter on June 04, 2016, 05:39:06 AM
WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
Post by: Tbar on June 04, 2016, 08:02:50 AM
It's a progressive agenda that should concern all, not just Whatcom County residents. Once these plans take hold there will be no hunting (through various avenues) on the DNR land. These Recreation plans need hunter involvement or our only option will be pay to play.WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2016, 09:33:04 AM
Sorry about the cloudy message. More details are at:WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BakertoBellingham
In a nutshell, the state legislature passed a law in 2014 that directs DNR to open up its forest land to organized recreation. In the past, use was allowed on a passive basis - "a privelage, not a right".
So, the committee in the link above will oversee how the different recreational lobbies build "recreational infrastructure ". My concern as an advocate for hunting and fishing is that we don't get marginalized and lose more acres than we already have (i.e., 8,400 acre Lake Whatcom reconveyance).
I'm looking for a few more WC residents who would be willing to be on my advisory group. All you have to do is render advice, and evaluate ideas.
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Post by: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2016, 10:27:03 AM
I agree 100% on the hunter participation, 50% on the WC residency, and 0% on it being progressive.It's a progressive agenda that should concern all, not just Whatcom County residents. Once these plans take hold there will be no hunting (through various avenues) on the DNR land. These Recreation plans need hunter involvement or our only option will be pay to play.WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
I certainly believe that neighboring county residents should get input, but the last thing this land needs is to rise promotion. Also, it's extremely important that the WC government becomes aware that there are activist hunters/fishermen - who are watching them and voting.
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Post by: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
"The last thing this land needs is promotion of tourism"I agree 100% on the hunter participation, 50% on the WC residency, and 0% on it being progressive.It's a progressive agenda that should concern all, not just Whatcom County residents. Once these plans take hold there will be no hunting (through various avenues) on the DNR land. These Recreation plans need hunter involvement or our only option will be pay to play.WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
I certainly believe that neighboring county residents should get input, but the last thing this land needs is to rise promotion. Also, it's extremely important that the WC government becomes aware that there are activist hunters/fishermen - who are watching them and voting.
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Post by: Uncle Rico on June 04, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
My new email for this subject:"The last thing this land needs is promotion of tourism"I agree 100% on the hunter participation, 50% on the WC residency, and 0% on it being progressive.It's a progressive agenda that should concern all, not just Whatcom County residents. Once these plans take hold there will be no hunting (through various avenues) on the DNR land. These Recreation plans need hunter involvement or our only option will be pay to play.WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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I am a little confused to what you are writing. Could you please explain more? I am very interested and interested in getting involved in the future of hunting and fishing in Whatcom County.
I certainly believe that neighboring county residents should get input, but the last thing this land needs is to rise promotion. Also, it's extremely important that the WC government becomes aware that there are activist hunters/fishermen - who are watching them and voting.
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Post by: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2016, 03:31:59 PM
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 06, 2016, 08:37:03 PM
Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate.
I don't think that is true. DNR land, unless being actively logged has always been open to legal users, wether gated or not. Why are you claiming otherwise?
Post by: dreamunelk on October 06, 2016, 09:36:00 PM
WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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Huh? Gates do not restrict hunting.
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2016, 11:05:02 PM
True. But, most people would prefer to drive and get further than you can hike, or bike. And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.WC residents: In a couple of short years, DNR land in our county will be open to all kinds of organized recreation. Until now, hunting and fishing persuits have been confined to lands with no permanent gate. My hope is that this will change. But, many WC residents - some with lobbying power, would like to see less of our sport on public land.
As a member of the committee that will define what recreation will happen where, I would like to solicit input from all WC hunters/fishermen who have ideas on what role our sport will play in Whatcom County's recreation future. thoughts?
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Huh? Gates do not restrict hunting.
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 06, 2016, 11:07:09 PM
And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.Huh?
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2016, 11:25:50 PM
And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.Huh?
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BakertoBellingham
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 07, 2016, 08:18:29 AM
And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.Huh?
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BakertoBellingham
That was no help, I followed your links and still can't figure out what you meant. Are you concerned about gates? Or are you concerned about sharing the resource with other user groups?
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 07, 2016, 10:58:15 AM
My concern is this - The recent promotion of non-hunting recreation in the Puget Sound area in general, and Whatcom County in specific, will further push hunting to the margins until it's no longer practical for the average enthusiast.And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.Huh?
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BakertoBellingham
That was no help, I followed your links and still can't figure out what you meant. Are you concerned about gates? Or are you concerned about sharing the resource with other user groups?
Hunters lost about 9,000 acres around Lake Whatcom a few years ago because they weren't paying attention. In short, I'm concerned about sharing because the people deciding who gets what - are committed anti hunting.
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 07, 2016, 11:02:08 AM
In short, I'm concerned about sharing because .......
Your doomed right there
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 07, 2016, 12:01:07 PM
You're probably right. But, sitting on our hands didn't work either.In short, I'm concerned about sharing because .......
Your doomed right there
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Post by: heronblu on October 07, 2016, 12:08:39 PM
My concern is this - The recent promotion of non-hunting recreation in the Puget Sound area in general, and Whatcom County in specific, will further push hunting to the margins until it's no longer practical for the average enthusiast.And after all these properties get opened up for all the other recreation interests - just having a key, or ATV-ing in will be less of an advantage.Huh?
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BakertoBellingham
That was no help, I followed your links and still can't figure out what you meant. Are you concerned about gates? Or are you concerned about sharing the resource with other user groups?
Hunters lost about 9,000 acres around Lake Whatcom a few years ago because they weren't paying attention. In short, I'm concerned about sharing because the people deciding who gets what - are committed anti hunting.
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Are you referring to the lake Whatcom reconveyance? with the 9000 acres comment?
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Post by: EmeraldBullet on October 07, 2016, 07:52:33 PM
There is a huge anti-hunting sentiment within this advocacy group in Whatcom County. Especially against modern rifle. Any hunters in WC need to get more involved in the decision making process, myself included. If we don't, soon we will lose our privileges.
Post by: heronblu on October 07, 2016, 08:01:26 PM
PM sent to the OP.
There is a huge anti-hunting sentiment within this advocacy group in Whatcom County. Especially against modern rifle. Any hunters in WC need to get more involved in the decision making process, myself included. If we don't, soon we will lose our privileges.
agreed 100%! I don't think its too late. I think if we present ourselves as a responsible conservation minded group we can get ourselves heard and have a real discussion. I have been in talks with people at the Whatcom Land Trust (an organization that typically doesn't allow hunting on their many properties in the county) and I have made some headway recently regarding potentially allowing hunting on some of their properties in the future. We could learn a lot from the mountain biking community actually. They have really inserted themselves as a force in the decision making process regarding land use locally and they have gotten much of what they want.