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Title: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
Hey guys and gals,
I am really trying to learn how to use my Adobe Photoshop to enhance my photos. Today I got playing with a photo I took of two of my grand daughters the other night. It was at an award ceremony at my grand daughters school. The photo was taken inside a dark auditorium during the ceremony.

Could you please give me some pointers or critique on what I may have accomplished during my editing session? I sure would appreciate your help! :)

Here are the photos:
Not edited:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fphotos%2520and%2520their%2520edited%2520twins%2FAlexandriaandKatrina1smaller.jpg&hash=9654501e78acd25aaa23975706d80bc02bf3c9b7)

and now the edited photo:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fphotos%2520and%2520their%2520edited%2520twins%2FAlexandriaandKatrina1editedforbackg.jpg&hash=ac94c9f7aa1889903ec06466616b71611d711e8d)

Do you think I need to do a little more retouching to get rid of any more background? Do I need to anything else to the photo?

Thanks in advance for any and all your help! :)

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 02, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
Any more and you would be hiding some of the detail and would not see the difference between the background and the subjects. Some back lighting is good.  :twocents:
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
Thanks Jeep! :)
I'm going to try to do a little Color Saturation and a touch of Contrast boost to see what happens. :) That auditorium was pretty dark for trying to take a portrait like this. ;)

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 02, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
BEHS?
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 01:51:53 PM
BEHS?

Nope! LaVenture Middle School! :)

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 02, 2009, 01:55:58 PM
If it's a jpg, I would add some mid tone.  Play with the middle slider on the levels...  

If you have it in raw I would really do something more drastic...  Indoor pictures using a pop up flash always look like this, unfortunately.  The black background looks ok but look at a few websites from pro wedding photographers.  The flash photo with underexposed background gets mundane.  So if you shot this raw, you could get all that good blurred background back and tone down the subject.  The photo would be in better balance then.  I hope some of that makes sense...  

Proper lighting indoors can be really difficult.  You really have 2 options.  You can buy a big flash and bounce it to light not only the subject but the background, or you can shoot without flash using a very fast lens and high iso.  I have a 55mm f1.2 and can shoot in very very low light.  I choose not to mess with flash.  
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 02, 2009, 01:57:34 PM
That was my second guess.

Used to live north of town up past the race track/ Kesselrings.


I've always had issues taking pictures inside. Then again, maybe I should upgrade from a point an shoot camera.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
maybe eliminate the little bit of lighted background behind pony, but you did good.
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 04:08:24 PM
My latest attempt to edit the photo turned out fair, but I still have a long way to go! :(

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fphotos%2520and%2520their%2520edited%2520twins%2FAlexandriaandKatrina1moreenhancemen.jpg&hash=3dd30ec60fb8f57731e1db53658ddc721602cd13)

My next step is to get the colors balanced out better. I think I put a little too much red in this one while I was trying to enhance the red tints in her hair to make them stand out from the background. :(

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 02, 2009, 04:27:19 PM
I like the original the best...lol.  The colors on the original are good.  Too much red in the latest one...
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 04:40:29 PM
Thank you Shawn! :) I sure don't like the colors on the latest one either, so I will be back to the drawing boards on that one!  :'(

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 02, 2009, 06:14:45 PM
Here is my 2 minute attempt... 

Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: 509er on February 02, 2009, 06:19:24 PM
that an amazing difference!
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: grandpawrichard on February 02, 2009, 09:05:34 PM
You got that right 509er! Shawn is the man when it comes to cameras, lenses and Photoshop!  Thanks Shawn!

Dick
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: Todd_ID on February 02, 2009, 10:17:28 PM
And here I thought Shawn just took really good pictures!  As it turns out he edits them all to heck to trick us......  :chuckle:  Just kidding!

Grampa, I have a tough time saying that the original picture is not a great one.  It certainly would look good in a frame on the mantle.  Maybe try printing one of each of the ones you have now, along with Shawn's, and see which you like the best in the frame.  I'm guessing that they'll all look pretty good.
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 02, 2009, 11:29:39 PM
I think mine could use a tad more contrast.  I might also tone out some green in the background.  To each his own, it's all subjective.
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 03, 2009, 05:03:38 AM
Quote from: popeshawnpaul
Here is my 2 minute attempt... 

Show off!   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:



Good Job :tup:
Title: Re: I need your opinions!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 03, 2009, 09:49:06 AM
Quote from: popeshawnpaul
Here is my 2 minute attempt... 

Show off!   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Good Job :tup:

 :chuckle:  What I meant was if you look around there hair I didn't spend any time to do the selection of the subject and background.  It's not a very precise transition between the blurred background and the hair. 
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