Post by: yorketransport on June 19, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
Build list:
-BAT model CT octagonal single shot action
-Joel Russo pistol stock made from Bubinga wood
-Jewell HVRS trigger
-Terminator T5 brake
-20" Lilja barrel (1.450" tapered to 1.350" at the muzzle)
Here are a few of the pics I got from Alex at Wheeler Accuracy last week.
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I sent him 5 rounds to try and test fire it; I haven't heard back whether he got up the courage to try it or not yet. :chuckle: I'm hoping to get a 300gr bullet to 2900 fps from the 20" barrel. The goal was to simply match the 338 Edge ballistics from a SP so that I could shoot out to 2000 yards or so before going subsonic.
Now all I need to do is figure out what to use for a scope on there!
Post by: h20hunter on June 19, 2016, 11:15:13 AM
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Post by: yorketransport on June 19, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
Congratulations on a beautiful build, I hope it is everything you expect and more. :tup:
Loud, excessive and different is all I really need to be happy and I think this covers it pretty well! :chuckle:
That thing is crazy. Consider you self warned...we need video of you touching a few rounds off or Banville for you sir! Cool build, thanks for posting.
That's on the list of videos I need to make on the next trip out. I want to get comparisons of the recoil on my favorite bolt action pistols and a few more common handguns to show how manageable the big guns really are.
Post by: beaslayer6 on June 19, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 19, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
sweet build but let me see if I'm looking at this right. its a 338 bullet with a 408 case. Who I the hell is going to shot that thing. Did you put lead in the stock. I would love to see this thing go off. awesome gun man..
Yup. It's the case on the far right in this pic. For reference, a 308 case is right between the 6.5x47 Lapua and 284 Win size wise.
6.5 BRX, 6.5x47 Lapua, 284 Win, 338/408 Improved
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The gun should weigh around 20# scoped and ready to go depending on the scope and rings that end up on there. Recoil with the pistols isn't as bad as you'd think. My 338/375 Ruger is the equivalent of a 340 Weatherby and recoils less than a 44 mag in a heavy revolver.
Post by: Alchase on June 19, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
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Post by: JJB11B on June 20, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
Post by: TVHunts on June 20, 2016, 03:47:23 PM
How do you fire a pistol like this? Does it jump and thump you on the head? I can't imagine the force on the wrist even with the brake. I too can't wait to see the video of this being shot :drool:
Post by: jasnt on June 21, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
Post by: h20hunter on June 21, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
My lord that thing is a beast!
How do you fire a pistol like this? Does it jump and thump you on the head? I can't imagine the force on the wrist even with the brake. I too can't wait to see the video of this being shot :drool:
It can only be done standing. Prone or sitting the big brass nads are in the way.
Post by: Wea300mag on June 21, 2016, 08:15:17 PM
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Post by: yorketransport on June 21, 2016, 10:00:08 PM
My lord that thing is a beast!
How do you fire a pistol like this? Does it jump and thump you on the head? I can't imagine the force on the wrist even with the brake. I too can't wait to see the video of this being shot :drool:
The smith test fired it on Sunday. He called me to tell me that he actually sat there with a round in the chamber for nearly 10 minutes before he got up the nerve to shoot it! When he shot it, he realized something that I learned years ago, handgun recoil is perceived entirely different than rifle recoil. To the smith's surprise the recoil was actually extremely mild. The gun actually moves very little but the blast pretty brutal. The muzzle brake, weight of the gun, design of the stock and the balance of the gun make it more manageable than you'd think.
Love it. Very interested in this cartrage. Looking forward to see your results. No lefty action this time??
I was going to use a left hand action but BAT had this action already started when I called to order one. Going with the right hand action meant that I could have it in 6 months instead of 11. I'm pretty impatient so I just went with the right hand. :chuckle: As far as the caliber goes, I have a 30" rifle chambered for the same cartridge with the same reamer. I'm going to get some good data on realistic velocity loss between the 30" and 20" barrels.
Post by: jasnt on June 22, 2016, 05:53:46 AM
Post by: bearpaw on June 22, 2016, 06:30:24 AM
I was going to use a left hand action but BAT had this action already started when I called to order one. Going with the right hand action meant that I could have it in 6 months instead of 11. I'm pretty impatient so I just went with the right hand. :chuckle: As far as the caliber goes, I have a 30" rifle chambered for the same cartridge with the same reamer. I'm going to get some good data on realistic velocity loss between the 30" and 20" barrels.
Amazing gun and very anxious to hear the results of your tests.
Post by: yorketransport on June 26, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
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For now I have an NXS 5.5-22x56 mounted on there. It looks good on there, but NF scopes don't work very well on the SPs. I need to decide what optic I really want on there.
Awesome, now if you'll just make some time to get to the range that would be great :chuckle:
I don't really like to shoot these projects; prolonged exposure has been know to cause long term hearing loss, nose bleeds and minor brain trauma. I try to limit my exposure. :chuckle: I like to just build them so that people I shoot with can say they've shot something this obscure, and then I sell them for a fraction of what I have invested. :bash: The problem is finding a buyer for some of the more "unique" projects. I only know of possibly 4 people who can really appreciate this gun for what it is. Then there's a ton of people who appreciate it for the "that's the most impractical thing I've ever seen but I want one" reason. :tup:
Amazing gun and very anxious to hear the results of your tests.
I'm pretty excited to see how it does. I'm going to try and have it ready to go in time for bear season to open and see if I can get something with it this year. If it weren't so heavy and pretty, I'd take it elk hunting this winter. I think I'll need to hire a gun bearer though to do that! :chuckle:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on June 26, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
I am slowly warming up to this concept.
Post by: yorketransport on July 04, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
The muzzle blast has to be experienced to be appreciated! :yike: This is the same load that I shoot in my rifle in the same chambering so no low power starting charges this time! The stock tracks as well as any BR rifle I've owned and should be perfect with a more solid front rest. It shoots surprisingly well considering that the 300gr Bergers are jumping .214" with this load since I have the freebore setup a bit shorter on the rifle than I do on the pistol. I'm not going to complain about how it shoots though. These are the first 4 shots fired out of the gun after bore sighting it.
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The high shot is #1. Shots 2, 3 and 4 went into one elongated hole at 100 yards. I think this gun will shoot just fine!
Post by: TVHunts on July 04, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on July 04, 2016, 12:32:59 PM
She is a pretty brute
Post by: jasnt on July 05, 2016, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 05, 2016, 02:04:22 PM
Post by: yorketransport on July 06, 2016, 05:23:06 AM
That's amazing Yorke, I'm thinking it needs to see elk country!
Do you provide a gun bearer as part of your guide service? I'm sure not dragging 18# worth of pistol around with me! :chuckle:
I may try and drag it out during bear season if I can find a good spot overlooking a berry field where I can set up my shooting bench.
Post by: Angry Perch on July 06, 2016, 08:15:04 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 06, 2016, 09:22:17 AM
You just need to get a holster for that bad boy!
I'll ask Tim to see if we can do it as a spoof.
Post by: bearpaw on July 06, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
That's amazing Yorke, I'm thinking it needs to see elk country!
Do you provide a gun bearer as part of your guide service? I'm sure not dragging 18# worth of pistol around with me! :chuckle:
I may try and drag it out during bear season if I can find a good spot overlooking a berry field where I can set up my shooting bench.
Maybe we can put it in a pack, how long is it?
Post by: Bob33 on July 06, 2016, 07:27:33 PM
Loud, excessive and different is all I really need to be happy and I think this covers it pretty well! :chuckle:There are some women that meet those criteria. Glad you chose a firearm. That's a gorgeous gun.
Post by: yorketransport on July 06, 2016, 09:34:24 PM
Maybe we can put it in a pack, how long is it?
It's ridiculously long! :chuckle:It actually does fit in my Eberlestock pack. If I had enough time to get a solid rest on a stump it would be very doable. I don't think I can off hand this one though!
You just need to get a holster for that bad boy!
I'll ask Tim to see if we can do it as a spoof.
Get me a good cross draw holster and figure out how to make my arms about 10" longer and I'm on board! :tup:
I've known a women who did, the gun is definitely a better option. :chuckle:Loud, excessive and different is all I really need to be happy and I think this covers it pretty well! :chuckle:There are some women that meet those criteria. Glad you chose a firearm. That's a gorgeous gun.
Post by: JJB11B on July 21, 2016, 06:51:26 PM
Post by: Jason on July 21, 2016, 07:08:13 PM
Post by: yorketransport on August 07, 2016, 07:17:47 PM
There for a second I thought you flinched, but I'm sure it was just the muzzle brake blast..lol Sweet pistol!!
I never flinch, but sometimes I get caught off guard. :chuckle:
I got out today and managed to get a velocity. I had to calculate it backwards by using a bullet with a known and verified BC (300gr Berger OTM) at multiple known ranges (100, 300 and 600 yards) and then measuring the drops at each range. Just like I had hoped for, I ended up with 2840fps from the 20" barrel with a load that gets 3180fps from the 30" rifle. I'll call this project a success! Just to verify the velocity I shot it at 965 yards and dialed up 20.8 MOA for a solid it on the 10" gong.
Now to try and work up a load with the 303gr Hammer Hunter Solids for the elk hunt with Bearpaw this winter. :tup:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 08, 2016, 06:20:07 AM
There for a second I thought you flinched, but I'm sure it was just the muzzle brake blast..lol Sweet pistol!!
I never flinch, but sometimes I get caught off guard. :chuckle:
I got out today and managed to get a velocity. I had to calculate it backwards by using a bullet with a known and verified BC (300gr Berger OTM) at multiple known ranges (100, 300 and 600 yards) and then measuring the drops at each range. Just like I had hoped for, I ended up with 2840fps from the 20" barrel with a load that gets 3180fps from the 30" rifle. I'll call this project a success! Just to verify the velocity I shot it at 965 yards and dialed up 20.8 MOA for a solid it on the 10" gong.
Now to try and work up a load with the 303gr Hammer Hunter Solids for the elk hunt with Bearpaw this winter. :tup:
You mean you don't need a chronograph to find speed? WOW! Deductive algorithm's actually work? This comes as a complete shock.
Post by: jackmaster on August 08, 2016, 06:33:33 AM
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Post by: yorketransport on August 09, 2016, 05:13:30 AM
You mean you don't need a chronograph to find speed? WOW! Deductive algorithm's actually work? This comes as a complete shock.
I didn't have to use any fancy algorithms, just math. :chuckle:
Now That's Disposable Income! Very cool great groupsThis is just what happens when you accept that neither of your kids are going to be surgeons and you "re-allocate" their college funds to something more fun. The kids will be better off in a trade school anyways!
Damn, I thought for sure that thing was gonna relocate your teeth!! Cool build dude, are you gonna actually go whack some critters with it or is it a concept build?It was really just a "hey what would happen if I tried this?" project. I'll at least try and get a coyote or 2 with it just for fun. Nothing short of 1000 yards though.
Post by: JJB11B on August 17, 2016, 08:00:57 PM
Post by: yorketransport on August 17, 2016, 10:13:52 PM
Think you could down an elk at 1500yards?
No problem! :chuckle:
Post by: b23 on August 17, 2016, 11:05:51 PM
Think you could down an elk at 1500yards?
No problem! :chuckle:
LOL :stirthepot:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on August 17, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Think you could down an elk at 1500yards?
No problem! :chuckle:
You dirty rotten mean mean man
So robbing some village in Africa of it's sacred tree wasn't enough?
Post by: yorketransport on August 18, 2016, 10:18:37 PM
Think you could down an elk at 1500yards?
No problem! :chuckle:
You dirty rotten mean mean man
So robbing some village in Africa of it's sacred tree wasn't enough?
Relax, there's still at least 3 of these trees left. I'm sure they can worship of of those. :chuckle: