Post by: BlackRiverTaxidermy on June 21, 2016, 06:21:08 PM
So here are a few questions for the masses...mostly for my curiosity....Did anyone every see or hunt them there (Olympics)? And...without making any suggestions, implications, or prompting a drunken idea on a wild evening...do you think wild hogs could survive in the western part of Washington state to proportions that some of the other states are having problems with. Again, not advocating any suggestions, but was curious what it might do to both the predator issues as well as other game animals and or hunting opportunities. Love to hear anyone's thoughts.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 21, 2016, 06:30:36 PM
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Post by: magnanimous_j on June 21, 2016, 06:33:11 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 21, 2016, 06:45:24 PM
The other reported critter on the OP is wild turkey. I've not seen any, but my cousin saw one about three years ago. Some of the old harvest reports show them.
Post by: Humptulips on June 21, 2016, 07:11:46 PM
When all the talk was about wild hog and some people were looking for them I had heard they were on the Hump but I've spent a lot of time in the area and never seen any sign. I think that was all smoke.
Post by: Bofire on June 21, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
Carl
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 21, 2016, 07:30:19 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 21, 2016, 07:37:49 PM
There used to be some up bear canyon between cinebar and Morton. Some hound hunters cut some loose about 10-15 years ago up there, a buddy killed 3 60-80lbrs 10 years ago or so up there..... Hopefully they spread into weyco and start uprooting and killin every tree they find....
A friend of my dad's saw 1 while deer hunting down near the Tilton about 15 years ago and he didn't kill it. He lives on dodge rd and that is the only one that he has ever seen.
Post by: Humptulips on June 21, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
There used to be some up bear canyon between cinebar and Morton. Some hound hunters cut some loose about 10-15 years ago up there, a buddy killed 3 60-80lbrs 10 years ago or so up there..... Hopefully they spread into weyco and start uprooting and killin every tree they find....
:lol4: Tell us how you really feel abut WEYCO. :tree1:
Post by: grundy53 on June 21, 2016, 08:08:59 PM
I had heard they were up the Wynoochee a few miles outside of Montesano, but that was about 15 years ago.I heard the same thing about pigs being up the Wynoochee. Also heard there were some feral cattle up there too.
The other reported critter on the OP is wild turkey. I've not seen any, but my cousin saw one about three years ago. Some of the old harvest reports show them.
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Post by: jmscon on June 21, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
A link I found:
http://www.invasivespecies.wa.gov/priorities/feral_swine.shtml
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 21, 2016, 08:45:11 PM
There are feral cattle further north. I know of at least one that was shot. It was jumping over/tearing down fences to get into peoples gardens and trying to get to the tame cows. I've heard there's a few more still roaming about.I had heard they were up the Wynoochee a few miles outside of Montesano, but that was about 15 years ago.I heard the same thing about pigs being up the Wynoochee. Also heard there were some feral cattle up there too.
The other reported critter on the OP is wild turkey. I've not seen any, but my cousin saw one about three years ago. Some of the old harvest reports show them.
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Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 21, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
There used to be some up bear canyon between cinebar and Morton. Some hound hunters cut some loose about 10-15 years ago up there, a buddy killed 3 60-80lbrs 10 years ago or so up there..... Hopefully they spread into weyco and start uprooting and killin every tree they find....
:lol4: Tell us how you really feel abut WEYCO. :tree1:
Or better yet, I'll tell ya how my old old hound huntin pards feel about big timber comps!! Grin
Post by: billythekidrock on June 21, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
I've heard about these pigs for years, but I've haven't heard anyone claim to have even seen one, let alone shot one.
I saw one on the OP many years ago near the National Park.
Post by: beardown on June 22, 2016, 05:05:02 PM
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 22, 2016, 09:08:38 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on July 05, 2016, 12:08:24 PM
I've seen quite a few of them driving threw Aberdeen,they have evolved and are walking upright on their hind legs. :)
you sure that wasn't bremerton
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 05, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
I've seen quite a few of them driving threw Aberdeen,they have evolved and are walking upright on their hind legs. :)
you sure that wasn't bremerton
More likely Olympia with all those politicians sucking off the teets.
Post by: splitshot on July 06, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 06, 2016, 03:23:35 PM
Feral hog will survive just fine in Washington and a cougar or other predator would think twice before taking on a dozen or so full grown hogs in a sounder. The moderate temps and ample water on the west side would make it great for hog living. I think you would be surprised how many feral hog there are in the JBLM area. I know a hog farmer on the border who loses animals fairly regular.
:yeah: Probably the same one I know about.
Post by: follow maggie on July 07, 2016, 01:43:12 PM
Post by: Curly on July 07, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 07, 2016, 02:24:14 PM
If the pigs show up in big enough numbers maybe we can get some of these hog hunting girls to come show us how they catch them?
Can't we just lie?
Post by: npaull on July 07, 2016, 02:33:56 PM
(Probably, yeah, ok. But they seem so fun to bowhunt!)
Post by: JDHasty on July 07, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 07, 2016, 03:26:24 PM
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Post by: brew on July 07, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
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Post by: Rob on July 08, 2016, 06:31:15 AM
As for the question, can they survive in Washington... if the Russian Boar can survive the cold Russian winters, bears and wolves, I think the pigs can survive our weather and predators! They are amazingly adaptors. More like humans than we wish to admit!
Four legs good, two legs bad.
Post by: HarboritE on July 10, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on July 28, 2016, 02:29:40 PM
closing for feral pig removal
EPHRATA – Starting Friday (July 29), the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will close public access to a portion of the Columbia Basin Wildlife Area in Grant County as part of a month-long effort to remove feral pigs from the area.
The closure will be in effect through Aug. 31 on about 1,300 acres of the Desert Unit of the wildlife area.
During that time, a team from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) will attempt to locate and remove feral pigs, which have been spotted in that area over the past year.
The USDA, which considers feral pigs an invasive species, plans to use bait to attract the animals and shoot them from a helicopter, said Matt Monda, WDFW wildlife manager for northcentral Washington.
According to the Washington Invasive Species Council, feral pigs can be extremely destructive to fences, fields, wetlands, and other wildlife habitat. They can also transmit diseases and parasites to livestock and people. The USDA is currently working in 39 states to control feral pigs, which cause an estimated $1.5 billion a year in environmental damage nationwide.
“We first started receiving public reports of wild pigs in the wildlife area last July,” Monda said. “One of our officers shot a pregnant sow two months later, and we’ve occasionally picked them up on remote cameras over the past year. We don’t want this to get out of hand.”
After assessing the situation, federal agents determined that locating and shooting feral pigs from the air is the best option, Monda said. They also plan to retrieve hair samples from the carcasses for DNA analysis to help determine the origin of the pigs, he said.
“We’re hoping this closure will have minimal impacts on wildlife area visitors,” Monda said. “With the hot weather and buggy conditions, August is the time of year the Desert Unit is least visited by wildlife watchers, anglers and hunters.”
Monda said WDFW will post signs marking the closed area, which will reopen Sept. 1 for the start of early hunting seasons.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jul2816a/
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 28, 2016, 02:37:03 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 28, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
Why not get hunters involved instead of spending $100K+ on a helicopter and crew?Hey, helicopter pilots need jobs too!
WDFW is not interested in providing hunting opportunity, unless it benefits one of their contributors.
$$$
Probably letting the USDA deal with the pigs makes them eligible for federal funds.
Allowing hunters to use a WDFW wildlife area to hunt a non-classified wild animal for free... :sry:
That does not follow the direction they seem to be heading, unless it was on private land with a fee to access.
Post by: Bob33 on July 28, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Quality Pig. Antlerless Pig. Youth Pig. Disabled Pig. Master Hunter Pig....
Post by: Angry Perch on July 28, 2016, 03:45:42 PM
If the pigs show up in big enough numbers maybe we can get some of these hog hunting girls to come show us how they catch them?
Oink,oink!
Post by: gilroym on July 28, 2016, 05:45:47 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 28, 2016, 05:46:33 PM
Don't give them any ideas.:chuckle:
Quality Pig. Antlerless Pig. Youth Pig. Disabled Pig. Master Hunter Pig....
Post by: kodiak 907 on July 28, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
If the pigs show up in big enough numbers maybe we can get some of these hog hunting girls to come show us how they catch them?
That's what I'm talking about
Post by: Antlershed on July 28, 2016, 07:45:21 PM
Why not get hunters involved instead of spending $100K+ on a helicopter and crew?Because of posts like the one above where hunters want a huntable population. The goal for ferel hogs in WA is complete eradication, as fast as possible, which it should be. WDFW really has nothing to do with the removal of ferel pigs, except when it involves one of their wildlife areas like it does this time.
Post by: cdriver on July 28, 2016, 07:58:05 PM
Post by: smittyJ on July 29, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
Post by: 724wd on July 29, 2016, 08:56:32 AM
Why not get hunters involved instead of spending $100K+ on a helicopter and crew?Because of posts like the one above where hunters want a huntable population. The goal for ferel hogs in WA is complete eradication, as fast as possible, which it should be. WDFW really has nothing to do with the removal of ferel pigs, except when it involves one of their wildlife areas like it does this time.
:yeah: WA cannot allow hogs to get a foothold in WA. hunters are not very effective at eradicating them, but shooting them from a helicopter is pretty effective! KILL THEM ALL!!! Thank you to the WDFW for their efforts in keeping hogs out of WA!
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 29, 2016, 09:56:51 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 29, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
Post by: cavemann on July 29, 2016, 10:06:54 AM
Post by: Antlershed on July 29, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
Why not do both? Have the helicopters out there on a schedule and open it up when they aren't. It's another opportunity for hunters to not only kill something but contribute to the health of the ecosystems.So you mean exactly what they are doing now? :dunno:
Hunters can go shoot ferel hogs whenever they want.
Post by: lamrith on July 31, 2016, 06:54:41 AM
Just curious where you are getting that information? I did a scan of the Regs and see no mention of hogs/pigs at all with regards to season or huntability.Why not do both? Have the helicopters out there on a schedule and open it up when they aren't. It's another opportunity for hunters to not only kill something but contribute to the health of the ecosystems.So you mean exactly what they are doing now? :dunno:
Hunters can go shoot ferel hogs whenever they want.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 31, 2016, 08:22:04 AM
Post by: BlackRiverTaxidermy on July 31, 2016, 08:39:03 AM
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Post by: cdriver on August 25, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
Post by: JDHasty on August 25, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
If they were going to be around for awhile you could get a pack of dogs. In some states it's real popular to turn loose a few pitbulls and then spear the hog once the dogs have it held down. The animal shelters in those places rush the pitbulls out to the hunters as soon as they come in, rather they go for hunting than to gangsters.
Bull Arabs are the consummate pig dog.
Post by: cdriver on August 30, 2016, 09:12:35 AM
Post by: DTaylor86 on August 31, 2016, 11:25:21 AM
Post by: headshot5 on August 31, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
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I know that in Kansas they had such a big problem with them that they STOPPED all hunting. It turned out that hunters were the ones planting them all over the state so that they could hunt them. So now there are no tags and they use professionals with dogs and they are having better luck.
Interesting, and I wouldn't doubt it is true. Seems like pig hunting would be pretty fun. It must suck for the landowners though.
Post by: Davedavey on September 20, 2016, 08:09:59 PM