Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 06:37:25 AM
Or
2007 Ford Expedition
Any advice on either rig?
We need 3rd row. We have a 4Runner and love it, on our second one. That being said, we like Toyota. I kinda like the ford , wife likes Toyota. Toyota is probably better but thought I'd ask your opinions
Post by: smittyJ on July 07, 2016, 07:37:01 AM
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Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 07:52:45 AM
Toyota will get 18 ish. I can live with that
We are not a mini van family, but we need more seats. At times my wife can't leave home cause of not enough seating for kids. Most of the time our vacations involve mountains , dirt roads or beach. Have a 21' Hewes craft.
Post by: quadrafire on July 07, 2016, 07:56:29 AM
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Post by: jackelope on July 07, 2016, 08:01:26 AM
The Expeditions are ok. You'll have ignition coil issues probably at some point, and quite possibly more than once. Each cylinder has it's own coil on plug ignition and the coils fail from time to time. Not a super expensive repair. It's a super common issue in that vintage Ford v8. We do ball joints on them now and then also. Occasional wheel bearing issues. Really they're not too bad.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 07, 2016, 08:02:28 AM
Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 07, 2016, 08:15:41 AM
Post by: gilroym on July 07, 2016, 08:20:56 AM
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 08:25:39 AM
If room for seats is a problem the Honda Pilot seats 8 and better MPG the the two listed above.
I actually just saw a newer pilot and wondered about that.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 07, 2016, 08:29:21 AM
Have you considered an outback? They tend to be great for what it seems you are using it for and get better gas than the ford and Toyota models you are considering.An Outback with 3rd row seating? I didn't think that was an option...
Post by: jmscon on July 07, 2016, 08:35:20 AM
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Post by: jackelope on July 07, 2016, 08:50:29 AM
A diesel expedition might do better milage wise but there was a year that international was pumping out the power strokes to beat the new emission standards. I've heard bad things about that year of engine, head bolts shearing off, things like that.
No such thing in the US as a diesel expedition.
Maybe an Excursion you're thinking about?
Post by: jmscon on July 07, 2016, 08:51:21 AM
Post by: jmscon on July 07, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
:yeah:A diesel expedition might do better milage wise but there was a year that international was pumping out the power strokes to beat the new emission standards. I've heard bad things about that year of engine, head bolts shearing off, things like that.
No such thing in the US as a diesel expedition.
Maybe an Excursion you're thinking about?
Not enough coffee yet
Post by: mikeybuck on July 07, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
The ones I looked at had the 3rd row seating.
Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 07, 2016, 09:01:34 AM
An Outback with 3rd row seating? I didn't think that was an option...
Looks like I was mistaken. I own a cross-trek and judging by the size difference assumed that the outback would have 3 row seating as an option, but I was wrong. If you want to go Subaru you'd have to go with the Tribeca, which to me looks better than a minivan but probably isn't quite what you are looking for either.
Post by: Alchase on July 07, 2016, 09:02:49 AM
If you need third row, I would buy a new body style Durango (cant stand the 05-09 body style) a Honda MDX or a Honda Pilot.
Everyone I know who has either Honda loves them.
Post by: gilroym on July 07, 2016, 09:23:11 AM
If room for seats is a problem the Honda Pilot seats 8 and better MPG the the two listed above.
I actually just saw a newer pilot and wondered about that.
We had a pilot for several years wife and I loved it till the day we traded it in but we wanted to go back to a sedan since we no longer needed the extra seating. the 4 wheel drive was nice and the vtec v6 has decent power. We had an 03 but the newer models have so many features.
Post by: quadrafire on July 07, 2016, 09:26:55 AM
Toyota Highlander has third row seating too but not sure how good it tows. We've been looking into one for after number two arrives.We got one when we had a second kid. The third row is a joke. Horribly uncomfortable. We got by for several years with it, but it's not made for an adult that is for sure. Never towed with it, but i'm sure it would do a tent trailer tow just fine.
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 09:37:58 AM
A diesel expedition might do better milage wise but there was a year that international was pumping out the power strokes to beat the new emission standards. I've heard bad things about that year of engine, head bolts shearing off, things like that.
Ford excursion is what I wanted to begin with. I have a 2001 f350, and the family love it . But wife would like something a little smaller and the 7.3 is hard to find
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 09:38:26 AM
My wife didn't want a mini van but needed the third row seating so we ended up getting a 2016 Honda Pilot.
How did you guys like it?
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 09:40:38 AM
Check out some of the newer Toyota 4 runners, 2010+
The ones I looked at had the 3rd row seating.
We would love to get a new one. Saw one today that was tan, looked cool. But right now I am trying for a job change and trying to save some money. Someday when kids are gone, we will get one. We have had a 99 runner and a 08, loved both
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on July 07, 2016, 10:07:05 AM
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Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 12:25:23 PM
Get over the mini van phobia. They are good rigs. Wife didn't want one either. Well we bought it and now she adores it. They are really versatile comfy nice driving rigs. Heck I even like it.
Wouldn't want to take it on beach, we go 4-5 times a year
We are in Mt a lot, never know what or where you might want to do
Can't pull boat or a trailer full of 4wheelers
I will say a van is probably the best car for most families , just not mine. Nothing against them , just how it is
Post by: Mudman on July 07, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Actually they are front engine front wheel drive and they get around in snow, mud etc. very good. Off road no its not a truck. Seems to me you will need a truck if that's the goal. Get quad cab like me. 6 people. Ours was a business fleet rig. Like new, maint., and low miles for great $ at the time.Get over the mini van phobia. They are good rigs. Wife didn't want one either. Well we bought it and now she adores it. They are really versatile comfy nice driving rigs. Heck I even like it.
Wouldn't want to take it on beach, we go 4-5 times a year
We are in Mt a lot, never know what or where you might want to do
Can't pull boat or a trailer full of 4wheelers
I will say a van is probably the best car for most families , just not mine. Nothing against them , just how it is
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 03:17:16 PM
Actually they are front engine front wheel drive and they get around in snow, mud etc. very good. Off road no its not a truck. Seems to me you will need a truck if that's the goal. Get quad cab like me. 6 people. Ours was a business fleet rig. Like new, maint., and low miles for great $ at the time.Get over the mini van phobia. They are good rigs. Wife didn't want one either. Well we bought it and now she adores it. They are really versatile comfy nice driving rigs. Heck I even like it.
Wouldn't want to take it on beach, we go 4-5 times a year
We are in Mt a lot, never know what or where you might want to do
Can't pull boat or a trailer full of 4wheelers
I will say a van is probably the best car for most families , just not mine. Nothing against them , just how it is
I have a F350 crew cab, we love it. That's why I want a excursion, but can't convince wife. And I can't fit 8 people in it like I could with some suv
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 07, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 07, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
Suburban, my opinion :chuckle:
:yeah: I buy low mileage suburbans for hunting rigs, I own 3 currently, one 1500 and two 2500, if you get an older 2500 (98-2005ish) with the 7.4 they drink some fuel 10-12 mpg, but they are cheap to buy, cheap to insure without comp on the insurance, they will usually last 200,000-300,000 miles, and you get heavier duty running gear in the 2500 with fewer problems than the 1500. That 7.4 engine seems to outlast the smaller engines. They have third row seating and when you figure lower cost on everything else you can afford to pay a little more for fuel and it will pull your boat real well. If you look around you can find them with less than 100,00 miles! :twocents:
It's probably about a 14 hr drive from wetside WA to Brigham Utah.
http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3011868?ad_cid=5
I buy a lot of stuff off this website in Utah. This is only a 1500 Suburban with the smaller engine, it should get about 14 -17 mpg but probably won't last quite as long as a 2500 with a 7.4, but very low miles (89,000), so probably a very good deal. If you keep watching this website eventually there will be a good deal on a 2500. Last winter I bought a 2005 Dodge Cummins with only 48,000 miles off those classifieds.
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 07, 2016, 04:55:25 PM
You need a Full size Van. Ford or Chevy. Pick your power plant. 4x4. More room than you will ever need and can seat 15!!!!!
Tried that already. It's her rig soooo
This would be awesome
Post by: toothfangclaw on July 07, 2016, 09:15:32 PM
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Post by: Bean Counter on July 07, 2016, 10:03:26 PM
I'm fortunate to be able to afford the gas bill. Everything in the world that matters to me is in that vehicle and I have zero doubts about whether a markedly safer vehicle could be found to survive all the drunks and texting idiots :bash:
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 07, 2016, 10:16:11 PM
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Post by: Bean Counter on July 07, 2016, 10:20:35 PM
Excursion diesel 15-18.
:yike: That the 7.3 'Phool was talking about above? What do those run 10-12 years old on the used market? I paid $8,500 for our Sequoia :)
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 08, 2016, 06:17:57 AM
We've had a Sequoia a few years earlier than the model you're looking at. LOVE IT. I've owned a few Yodas with the 2UZ-FE engine and as spastic and incompetent as I am, I haven't managed to kill one of those vehicles. Yes, the Sequoia gets much, much worse gas mileage than the tundra, probably due to weight (?) :dunno: Those early 2000s Tundras will pull 16-18mpg and the Sequoias about 11-12 if its in the city. A few coworkers with a Suburban report similar fuel economy. I think we got 16ish in the Sequoia on a road trip. I sat in every chair in the vehicle for more than a moment and found them all to be comfortable. If you want to save some money up front and spend a lot of money and hassle fixing mechanical and electrical problems, go with the Suburban. If you want to spend a little more up front and not have to mess with it, go with the Sequoia. I've always managed to save a few grand by buying when gas prices are high, as they're harder to sell in those days :IBCOOL:
That's what I was thinking and have been told
Post by: n_mathews13 on July 08, 2016, 06:19:07 AM
Find a Excrusion with a 7.3 :tup:
Still trying to talk her into that.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 08, 2016, 07:00:38 AM
Toyota every day of the week and twice on Sunday. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: ELKBURGER on July 08, 2016, 07:13:36 AM
:yeah:I will also throw a plug out for the suburban. I have a 99' 2500 with the 7.4. Last time I checked I got 14 mpg with a mix of hiway and city. A buddy has a 97' 1500 with the 5.7 and we got well over 20 mpg on a trip to Wyoming pulling an enclosed trailer. Great rigs :tup:Suburban, my opinion :chuckle:
:yeah: I buy low mileage suburbans for hunting rigs, I own 3 currently, one 1500 and two 2500, if you get an older 2500 (98-2005ish) with the 7.4 they drink some fuel 10-12 mpg, but they are cheap to buy, cheap to insure without comp on the insurance, they will usually last 200,000-300,000 miles, and you get heavier duty running gear in the 2500 with fewer problems than the 1500. That 7.4 engine seems to outlast the smaller engines. They have third row seating and when you figure lower cost on everything else you can afford to pay a little more for fuel and it will pull your boat real well. If you look around you can find them with less than 100,00 miles! :twocents:
It's probably about a 14 hr drive from wetside WA to Brigham Utah.
http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3011868?ad_cid=5
I buy a lot of stuff off this website in Utah. This is only a 1500 Suburban with the smaller engine, it should get about 14 -17 mpg but probably won't last quite as long as a 2500 with a 7.4, but very low miles (89,000), so probably a very good deal. If you keep watching this website eventually there will be a good deal on a 2500. Last winter I bought a 2005 Dodge Cummins with only 48,000 miles off those classifieds.
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Post by: n_mathews13 on July 17, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
this should do the trick
Believe me I tried
Post by: JJB11B on July 18, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
Post by: jeepster on July 18, 2016, 06:32:23 PM
Suburban, my opinion :chuckle:
:yeah:
Cowboy Cadillac!!!! 8)
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