Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: DJ_Mack on July 14, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
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I am looking at getting a new bolt action rifle. My buddies have been pushing for me to get a 6.5 for a while. What are your takes? I am a .308 guy because of how easy it is found and I also like to keep my caliber spread to a minimum. Anyone have experience?
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Abso-freekin-lutely.
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https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/1000-yards-500-rifle-rugers-american-predator/
See if Carp can get you one of these, hard to beat for that price.
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I own 2 6.5 creedmoors, love em, you cant go wrong. Go on youtube and type in "why the 6.5 and 6mm dominate the .308"
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I own 2 6.5 creedmoors, love em, you cant go wrong. Go on youtube and type in "why the 6.5 and 6mm dominate the .308"
I understand ballistics of long range but what about black bear at about 150 yds?
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I've killed a couple elk and a pile of deer with my .260 REM (pretty much same thing as 6.5 creedmoor). You shouldn't have any trouble dropping a bear at 150 yards with a 6.5 creedmoor.
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Plenty for just about anything in WA at reasonable hunting distances.
Since you're a .308 guy you may want to consider the .260 as well. .308 brass and a neck turner works fine. I was bear hunting with a .260 when I shot the cougar in my avatar.
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6.5 creedmoor with 140 grain bullet will kill anything in north America. Fantastic round. :tup: One of my next calibers will be a creedmoor.
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If you Reload, I would go with the Swede! :twocents:
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308, 6.5CM, anything else... they'll all kill deer, elk, bear within reasonable distances with good placement. I've been thinking about a 308 lately, but I already have a 243 and 280AI
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Love the 6.5 Creedmoor. Antelope, deer, elk, bear .............. it's all good. The choices in factory ammo seem to growing too.
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I would go for the 308.
It uses cheaper ammo that you can often find on sale and I wouldn't want a specialty round rifle in a disaster or survival type situation. I stopped at Wal-mart yesterday and they didn't even have 17 HMR in stock. In an emergency situation you want a 308 or 3006 but I would go with the 308.
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Love the 6.5 creedmore they are a accurate and honest round. I took one over the 6.5x47 to a PRS shoot a few months ago and was more than impressed 30-40 mph crosswinds and shots to 1300 I used the Hornady match grade ammo and finished in the top end of over 80 shooters. If your not a reloader and looking for ammo you can buy Hornady precision hunter with the 143 ELD-X from midway for $30.00 a box. If your a reloader your options are endless. The barrel life on them is unreal as well. Over the last few years I have seen elk, deer, pronghorn, and bear fall to them from 80 yards out to 1200 yards
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Great input.
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The gun I am looking at is a 18" 6.5 that has a threaded barrel and I was planning on putting my omega on it.
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If elk are on the menu I'd choose a 270 or above. Roosevelt bull elk are pretty big animals, and Murphy's law has a tendency to show up when your hunting. If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
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If elk are on the menu I'd choose a 270 or above. Roosevelt bull elk are pretty big animals, and Murphy's law has a tendency to show up when your hunting. If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
Last day or not....that is horrible advise.
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If elk are on the menu I'd choose a 270 or above. Roosevelt bull elk are pretty big animals, and Murphy's law has a tendency to show up when your hunting. If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
Good point, huge difference between .264 and .270
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If elk are on the menu I'd choose a 270 or above. Roosevelt bull elk are pretty big animals, and Murphy's law has a tendency to show up when your hunting. If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
Good point, huge difference between .264 and .270
Especially when both bullets are 140 grains. :chuckle:
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If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
Then you go without elk in the freezer that year
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If elk are on the menu I'd choose a 270 or above. Roosevelt bull elk are pretty big animals, and Murphy's law has a tendency to show up when your hunting. If its the last day of your hunt and a "texas heart shot" is your only opportunity on a big bull, the bigger the better - IMHO. :twocents:
Last day or not....that is horrible advise.
:yeah: Never take the Texas heart shot
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Unless you are shooting at over 1k yards or just want something different, I can't find a reason to go with the 6.5 over the .308. The ammo is more expensive, the brass is more expensive and you can't walk into the hardware store in Ronan Montana and buy a box of 6.5 off the shelf.
The 6.5 is a fine cartridge if you want something different and it shines after 1k yards but every truck on the east side of the mountains has a loaded round of .308 rolling around on the floor somewhere.
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The gun I am looking at is a 18" 6.5 that has a threaded barrel and I was planning on putting my omega on it.
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Thats what the one I'm shooting is 18" barrel and Im running a Thunderbeast shooting the 143 @ 2600 fps
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6.5 Creedmoors sucks. I have 3 of them.... :chuckle:
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Your 308 s are great medium range hunting rounds . If you want to step up to the 6.5 game I'd look at the 6.5 x284 with a 24 plus pipe to see the real benefits of what it has to offer .
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I see nothing wrong with a 6.5 Grendel as an elk gun! :tup:
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I see nothing wrong with a 6.5 Grendel as an elk gun! :tup:
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I see nobody is interested in the Swede? Stupid people amuse me!
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I would shoot anything with a 6.5 Creedmor at 150 yards. Some incredible bullet selection. Load data shows it pushing 140-142 bullets between 2500-2750 FPS. A Hornady ELD or Accubonds Long Range at that weight and speed is far above the minimum for elk or black bear or anything on the continent for that matter.
It would be one of my last choices in the 6.5 family but it's still a 6.5 :tup:
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The gun I am looking at is a 18" 6.5 that has a threaded barrel and I was planning on putting my omega on it.
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Thats what the one I'm shooting is 18" barrel and Im running a Thunderbeast shooting the 143 @ 2600 fps
What gun are you running? Do you hand load? And if so what is your load data?
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I see nothing wrong with a 6.5 Grendel as an elk gun! :tup:
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Just realized I typed Grendel instead of creedmoor. Oops
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Its a lot more about bullet selection than the caliber, 6.5CM is a great hunting caliber WITH the right bullet. I shoot a .260 gas gun and am looking forward to putting the smackdown on a buck this year.
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I see nobody is interested in the Swede? Stupid people amuse me!
In 5 years someone will be talking about how if you don't buy the 6.65 Russian Bear Claw Max-Xtreme 1000 then you must be stupid.
A lot of these obscure rounds can't be purchased in rural areas. So in addition to the premium price you also have to pay for shipping. That obscurity also makes it harder to sell or trade specialty caliber rifles, especially if a trendier round comes out.
But yes they must be stupid for not using your favored caliber that could be eclipsed by another caliber someday which will further increase the ammo cost.
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The gun I am looking at is a 18" 6.5 that has a threaded barrel and I was planning on putting my omega on it.
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Thats what the one I'm shooting is 18" barrel and Im running a Thunderbeast shooting the 143 @ 2600 fps
What gun are you running? Do you hand load? And if so what is your load data?
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Gunwerks Lr1000, just running the Hornady precision ammo
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I see nothing wrong with a 6.5 Grendel as an elk gun! :tup:
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Just realized I typed Grendel instead of creedmoor. Oops
Grendal would get it done but you better know your gun and have a load of confidence in your ability! I just finished my grendal build might have to pop a cow this year to see how it performs :chuckle:
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
People who hunt with .308s and .30-06s I guess ;)
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
I bring enough for an army....
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Never once has the availability of ammo at rural stores played into what calibers I buy for rifles. :twocents:
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Never once has the availability of ammo at rural stores played into what calibers I buy for rifles. :twocents:
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Never once has the availability of ammo at rural stores played into what calibers I buy for rifles. :twocents:
Agreed, I'd look pretty silly walking into a hardware store looking for 6.5 Rem Mag wouldn't I ? :chuckle:
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
Or the interwebs
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
Or the interwebs
Not everyone on this site has the internet jon........... 8)
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
Or the interwebs
Not everyone on this site has the internet jon........... 8)
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
Or the interwebs
Not everyone on this site has the internet jon........... 8)
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Who buys loads for there hunting guns in rural areas while hunting ?
You do realize that some of us live in rural areas, right?
Well you need to head to the big city for ammo then! :chuckle:
Or the interwebs
Way to tell people on the internet that they can use the internet.
Buying online comes with shipping costs which adds to the premium price of specialty ammo.
I also think 308/3006 calibers are better for Katrina type events and ammo availability would be a factor in such an event. It's a similar reason why I wouldn't want a .45 gap or 357 sig.
But I also admit to being biased towards having zero faith in our government to handle a disaster.
I suppose I would consider a 6.5 if I were into long range competitive shooting but not as an all around hunting gun that I could possibly need someday for survival.
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My brother in law just picked up the Ruger Precision 6.5 Creedmoor. Seems like a heck of a rifle. A little heavy if you carry it around all day at 10.6 lbs. I'm curious about its adjustable trigger.
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Whats a texas heart shot?
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South end of a northbound animal.
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Not everyone on this site has the internet jon........... 8)
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With the right bullet selection for the application with all the arm chair Google fan club boys taking a time out. The Creedmoor walks all over the .308 Winnie internet load data math ladies.
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
You don't have to "Pitch" a cartridge when you have a real world grasp on bullet performance. S*#T or get off the pot!
After reading through your posts. I'm going to be your new best friend.😉
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
You don't have to "Pitch" a cartridge when you have a real world grasp on bullet performance. S*#T or get off the pot!
After reading through your posts. I'm going to be your new best friend.😉
:brew:
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
You don't have to "Pitch" a cartridge when you have a real world grasp on bullet performance. S*#T or get off the pot!
After reading through your posts. I'm going to be your new best friend.😉
:brew:
Soooooooo cozy! :tree1:
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
You don't have to "Pitch" a cartridge when you have a real world grasp on bullet performance. S*#T or get off the pot!
After reading through your posts. I'm going to be your new best friend.😉
:brew:
Soooooooo cozy! :tree1:
:chuckle:
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With the right bullet selection for the application
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any caliber? :dunno:
👍
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With the right bullet selection for the application with all the arm chair Google fan club boys taking a time out. The Creedmoor walks all over the .308 Winnie internet load data math ladies.
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With the right bullet selection for the application with all the arm chair Google fan club boys taking a time out. The Creedmoor walks all over the .308 Winnie internet load data math ladies.
lol, sounds familiar.. ;)
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6.5 Creed makes for a fine hunting gun in my opinion. Here's a deer the wife shot with hers last year right at 600yd.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi307.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn310%2Fredellj%2Fmisc%2F12118966_10154194041131490_4432017905776187259_n_zpsuy2hvz6u.jpg&hash=1b65be24d98eae45b2602da7fb49e434c85b0a8c) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/redellj/media/misc/12118966_10154194041131490_4432017905776187259_n_zpsuy2hvz6u.jpg.html)
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6.5 Creedmoors sucks. I have 3 of them.... :chuckle:
LOL
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6.5 Creed makes for a fine hunting gun in my opinion. Here's a deer the wife shot with hers last year right at 600yd.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi307.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn310%2Fredellj%2Fmisc%2F12118966_10154194041131490_4432017905776187259_n_zpsuy2hvz6u.jpg&hash=1b65be24d98eae45b2602da7fb49e434c85b0a8c) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/redellj/media/misc/12118966_10154194041131490_4432017905776187259_n_zpsuy2hvz6u.jpg.html)
Ya, but I've seen here shoot, she could have killed it at 600 with a 22mag.... :)