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Title: Pump Rifles
Post by: CP on February 05, 2009, 09:23:14 AM

We’ve heard a lot about lever rifles, who hunts with a pump?  What do you like or dislike about them?
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 09:28:52 AM
I used to hunt with a Remington 7600 Pump in 30-06. My Dad hunted for years with a 760 pump in .270.

I like them, although they do make a lot of noise in my opinion. For many years the FBI used 760s as sniper rifles.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: croix on February 05, 2009, 09:41:44 AM
I used a 760 .270 for years. It shot for sh*t and was probably 30 yrs old. It was originally my grandfather's gun and I wanted to be able to say three generations had taken a deer with it. As soon as I took one I retired the gun.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: AWS on February 05, 2009, 10:14:24 AM
I have a Rem 760 in 35 Rem that I keep back in WI incase I can't transport a gun back for hunting. Nice little rig.  My EX had a 760 in 270 Win that is one of the most accurate 270's I've ever shot (I used to own a gun shop) and that is quite a few.  It would shoot as well as some of my target rifles.  I had alot of 760's come through my shop and other than crappy triggers they all shot well some needed some serious cleaning.

AWS
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: GoldTip on February 05, 2009, 10:21:59 AM
I've used my grandfathers 760 in 30-06 several times with an old Lyman peep for several different animals when I still lived in Montana.  Sometimes just felt like carrying it.  Always shot 180gr remmy round noser's into 2" or sometimes less at 100 yards with that old gun, not sure what it would have done with a scope.  Great guns in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: SagebrushStalker on February 05, 2009, 10:22:03 AM
My first hunting rifle was a rem. 760 in 270, got it when I was 12 and never shot it too much.  In 05 after finding out I got drawn for a bull tag I took it to the range with every different boxed ammo I could find only to find that the best group it would post was 4" @100yds >:(  That was after a thorough cleaning!  I traded it in that afternoon on a used savage 111 in 300 win mag and was way happier.
That rifle was definitely the worst I have ever owned.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 11:05:46 AM
I have found that it is essential to keep the bolt mechanism very clean on these rifles. If the bolt does not close and lock correctly, it can have an effect on accuracy. You can pop the trigger assembly out very easily, two pins pushed out, and access the bottom of the bolt. The only issue my dad ever had with his .270 was the trigger got gummed up over elk hunting in -10 weather. We pulled the trigger assembly out, cleaned it well and lubricated it, worked fine.

Both my 30-06 and my dad's .270 are tack drivers.  Dad downed a huge cow elk with it over in the Manastash at 425yds.

I think some of the accuracy issues listed here may be from not being properly maintained, optics, or simply user input.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: ThePascoKid on February 05, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
I also have my grandpas 760 in .270 shot my first deer with it and then retired it not bad accuracy but I hated the metal butt plate it would make a great brush gun but I hunt more open country 
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: C-Money on February 05, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
I bought a Rem 760 in 30-06 with a Leupold VXII about 15 years ago. I shot many deer with it. It is in PA now with my Dad. He has lots of rifles to choose from but he takes that 760 out every year now. He has killed more deer with it than I have! I had a gun smith work on the trigger for me. It is a tack driver!
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Houndhunter on February 05, 2009, 11:30:20 AM
yup my dad regrets not buying a pump 30-06 that he had an oppotunity at, almost regrets that as much as cutting his nolyan ryan/johnny bench rookie card in half :chuckle:, still has the two peices :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: agchawk on February 05, 2009, 11:42:30 AM
My first big game rifle was a 760 pump in .270 that was passed down through the family. I LOVED that rifle....very dependable and very accurate provided you kept her clean.

I still have it and take it out occassionally. However, I have since added to my collection and she just doesn't see the same action she used to.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jdb on February 05, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
My dad also has one that he hunted with for a number of year. very accurate.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Huntbear on February 05, 2009, 12:10:47 PM
My dad and mom both shot 760s in .300 Savage.  Both shot MOA, both were elk and deer killers. 
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 12:24:50 PM
I still have my 760 in 30-06, although it may be for sale for the right price.  :)
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: HawkenBob on February 05, 2009, 01:32:10 PM
I still have my 760 in 30-06, although it may be for sale for the right price.  :)

What might the right price be? I've been looking at new ones.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
What can you offer?
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: HawkenBob on February 05, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
How nice is it? Got a pic?
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 01:57:17 PM
I can take some tonight. I have one guy who is interested, but I doubt he is going to follow through.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: HawkenBob on February 05, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
I want to see it. Is it in great shape, no rust at all? I dont mind dings and what not. Just have a hard time with rust. Depending on the price.
Do you know yr of MFG?
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Amsdad on February 05, 2009, 02:16:04 PM
I also have a 760 Gamemaster in .270. I inherited it from my best friend's father when he passed. It is a first year rifle, manufactured in 53, the first year for that chambering not the rifle. One of the "5 diamond" models. Shoots like a dream, It was his favorite deer gun and is one of my favorites easily.
The only issue I have with it is the scope mounted on it is an old Leupold 4X..M..something or other. It has a tendency to fog under certain circumstances.The scope is fine actually, its just that it has a fencepost reticle. I have done some research and the reticle in it does not appear to be a stock Leupold reticle, this is based on those listed on the site. The center verticle post is large and extends up beyond the mid line. But I can not bring myself to change it out, that rifle, scope and the compression rings that secure it make a fine looking vintage rifle.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jdb on February 05, 2009, 02:40:32 PM
my dad has one in 6mm that he'd sell if anyone's interested
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 05, 2009, 02:55:03 PM
If I remember correctly, its an early 80s manufacture. Its in good shape. Was my moms rifle originally. She shot maybe a box of shells through it. Shot one elk with it. I shot my first deer with it over by Curlew. I know the stock was shortened about an inch to fit my mom better, but it does have a recoil pad on the back. The bluing is in good shape with no rust. It is drilled for scope mounts, but none are on it.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: HawkenBob on February 05, 2009, 03:12:36 PM
Sounds decent enough. Does it have sights?
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: ebusa on February 05, 2009, 03:20:39 PM
Remington Pumps are awesome!  I'm a huge fan and have had several 760's-7600's.  Don't even have a bolt rifle anymore!

Pumps are fast, dependable, great handeling, accurate and different from eveyone else!  They are one of the most underated rifles out there.

There's only few drawbacks that I have been able to remedy.  

What I have learned:

1. If you have an older 760 Gamemaster with Metal Port Cover and the port cover is rattling, it needs oil.  A thin coat of oil will stop the rattling.  Make sure you work the action good to get the oil worked in.

2.  Old style magazines need to be filed and tweaked a bit to ensure they slap right in, this also helps with the slide from potentially sticking or jamming.

3.  Triggers are heavy.  I had my trigger group worked by BCS, Don Barnes on GunBroker.com.  I now have a smooth 3.5lb pull.

4.  Shoot ammo with the chrome casings and it will NEVER jam like traditional brass.  The traditional stuff seems to expand making it harder to eject out a shell. I use Winchester Supreme Accubonds.

I've done these things on my 1955 Remington 760 Gamemaster ADL Deluxe .30-06 (5 Diamond checkering)  She shoots like a dream, accurate,  no rattling, no jaming, action is like butter!  



Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jdb on February 05, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
Ive always liked the carbine versions. Always dreamed of takeing a .35 remington and lopping the barrel off at about 18" for a timber rifle.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: alanger on February 05, 2009, 08:32:01 PM
I will probably be taking some heat but in my personal opinion i dont favor the pump action rifles at all.

Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Gutpile on February 05, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
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I will probably be taking some heat but in my personal opinion i dont favor the pump action rifles at all.


I have one in .270 and while I love it, it is difficult for me to shoot it fast and stay on target. I've been a shotgunner my whole life so you'd think it'd be easy but it's not. I have one, I love it, but I'd damn well make sure that first shot counts. Doesn't really make sense that I can't run it fast, but I can't.

I'll choose a bolt, lever, or semi any time. I do occasionally take it out and my oldest daughter uses it for deer. It was my dad's so I'll have it forever. I wish he would have had a really cool bolt gun though.

It's personal preferance. I don't think you should take any heat at all.

That old thing shoots everything well. We're running that fed fusion 130 grn ammo and it prints it at less than an inch. Not bad for a old classic.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Huntbear on February 06, 2009, 09:27:33 AM
the best thing I found about pump rifles, is that when you fire, pump the action, your sight picture comes right back to you and you are on target again.  But other than that, I will take my other rifles.  Plus, the old 760s are so much better than the new 7600s in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Aaron bosley on February 06, 2009, 03:52:35 PM
i have a 30-06 remington 760 pump and i love it. i got my first deer with it this year.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: alanger on February 06, 2009, 04:43:33 PM
yeah i no its really quick (sometimes) to jack another bullet in but still i really dont like the action and i wouldnt use it for deer or big game hunting at all. maybe target shooting or just to say i have one!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: 300rum on February 06, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
It may be a small thing but they are cold rifles to carry.  If you don't use a deer misser (sling) there is nothing but metal to hold onto when you are carrying one in the woods, and they are cold. 
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: ICEMAN on February 07, 2009, 08:45:52 AM
Wear gloves.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: Huntbear on February 07, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
yeah i no its really quick (sometimes) to jack another bullet in but still i really dont like the action and i wouldnt use it for deer or big game hunting at all. maybe target shooting or just to say i have one!!! :chuckle:

I had an uncle that could make a 760 sound like an auto loader, even when changing magazines.  It would sound like a machine gun going off when he wanted to unload everything in a hurry.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: strutnrut1984 on February 07, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
ive used my my 760 .308 since i was 15. always been a very depenable very accurate rifle for me. its topped with a 3x9x40 bushnell  and drives tacks. ive killed deer out to about 250yds with it.
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 08, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
Sounds decent enough. Does it have sights?

The guy finally came through with the money for it, so its sold.  :(
Title: Re: Pump Rifles
Post by: HawkenBob on February 09, 2009, 05:58:42 AM
I was wondering what hapened to ya. Oh well, now I have to buy a 300 WSM browning lever gun... :IBCOOL:
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