Post by: sled on July 24, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: Dan-o on July 24, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
I've lost two cams to thieves...... >:(
Post by: Zardoz on July 24, 2016, 04:16:21 PM
Post by: seth30 on July 24, 2016, 04:19:39 PM
Post by: sled on July 24, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Post by: syoungs on July 24, 2016, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: syoungs on July 24, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Here is a link with a few videos of them getting caught, and trying to break in to the box!
Post by: NWWA Hunter on July 24, 2016, 06:41:53 PM
Post by: TVHunts on July 24, 2016, 07:28:12 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 24, 2016, 07:38:00 PM
Post by: badnewskruse on July 24, 2016, 07:40:03 PM
Post by: R2Rcoulee on July 24, 2016, 07:40:37 PM
Hopefully this link of the video works
Post by: R2Rcoulee on July 24, 2016, 07:42:17 PM
Post by: seth30 on July 24, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
Post by: templar021 on July 24, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 24, 2016, 08:25:43 PM
Post by: sled on July 24, 2016, 08:42:18 PM
I saw a couple of the posts on FB about it, but there were no videos. :dunno:he just reposted the videos again
Post by: bobcat on July 24, 2016, 08:46:14 PM
I saw a couple of the posts on FB about it, but there were no videos. :dunno:he just reposted the videos again
I looked but can't find any videos .
Post by: goosegetter79 on July 24, 2016, 08:49:54 PM
Post by: Itchin4huntin on July 24, 2016, 09:16:56 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 24, 2016, 09:22:10 PM
Post by: haugenna on July 24, 2016, 09:53:32 PM
Post by: sled on July 24, 2016, 10:16:23 PM
Is that a closed site?hmm.. It may be, not sure.
Post by: haugenna on July 24, 2016, 10:25:09 PM
Anyone posting on his wall or calling his employer in the morning?
Post by: 3nails on July 25, 2016, 05:07:58 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 06:11:24 AM
Post by: 724wd on July 25, 2016, 06:54:31 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
amazing they caught them in the act, but i'm over here still wondering what kind of cam and lock box they used! LOL!He said he had a python lock, but I had one of those and the *censored*s broke it real quick. I wouldn't recommend a python, the two most important things I thing are a lock that doesn't allow room for bolt cutters and lag bolting the box to the tree. The best idea is to bring a small ladder and hang it up high, but of course the thieves will start bringing ladders soon.
Post by: Miles on July 25, 2016, 07:05:44 AM
Post by: greenhead_killer on July 25, 2016, 07:48:37 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 25, 2016, 07:57:25 AM
If this was Facebook I'd say this just a bit different, what a couple of d bags!! So glad they got caught and the video was there, perfect. I hope all there family, friends and co workers see the post!
Facebook removed the post.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 25, 2016, 08:01:07 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 08:18:34 AM
Post by: seth30 on July 25, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
It's small world, someone on here must know these guys? Nathan Allison and Cody Wood??:yeah:
Post by: whacker1 on July 25, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
Post by: jackmaster on July 25, 2016, 09:21:24 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 09:26:22 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 25, 2016, 09:30:27 AM
Post by: jackmaster on July 25, 2016, 09:41:17 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 25, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Post by: haugenna on July 25, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Good to see them caught.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 25, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
Glad they were caught though. I am wondering if this will show up on the news.
Post by: seth30 on July 25, 2016, 10:24:24 AM
Wowzers. Unbelievable that people will stoop to such levels.To tell you the truth I am shocked it hasn't been on CNN yet. There was a gun used in the crime :yike:
Glad they were caught though. I am wondering if this will show up on the news.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 10:32:07 AM
Tag me on Facebook yaffa, I guarantee some of the people I know will know of these kids, they look to be around 21 , awesome video.. :pee: :pee:on all theives!!!10-4, share it!
Post by: Zardoz on July 25, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Wow. That could have gotten ugly real fast.
Good to see them caught.
:yeah:
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 25, 2016, 11:00:24 AM
Wowzers. Unbelievable that people will stoop to such levels.To tell you the truth I am shocked it hasn't been on CNN yet. There was a gun used in the crime :yike:
Glad they were caught though. I am wondering if this will show up on the news.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: haugenna on July 25, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
:chuckle:
Post by: TVHunts on July 25, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Chicken *#it little weasels
Post by: lamrith on July 25, 2016, 11:59:40 AM
Post by: bhawley76 on July 25, 2016, 12:17:26 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 25, 2016, 12:46:03 PM
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on July 25, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Post by: haugenna on July 25, 2016, 01:44:56 PM
Looks like well known poachers and thieves. Read the comments
Post by: Eric M on July 25, 2016, 01:57:48 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 25, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2016, 02:13:27 PM
They both need a hickory shampoo
What's a hickory shampoo?
I thought I'd heard of most everything by now. I guess not.
Post by: JDHasty on July 25, 2016, 02:15:12 PM
They both need a hickory shampoo
What's a hickory shampoo?
I thought I'd heard of most everything by now. I guess not.
That is like a rat-a-tat-tat about the head and shoulders w/a good ol' fashioned hickory nightstick
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
They both need a hickory shampoo
What's a hickory shampoo?
I thought I'd heard of most everything by now. I guess not.
That is like a rat-a-tat-tat about the head and shoulders w/a good ol' fashioned hickory nightstick
I feel like I should've known that.
Post by: Rainier10 on July 25, 2016, 02:18:59 PM
I was thinking it must be some sort of a beating with a piece of wood. Thanks for clarifying and thanks for asking Jackelope.They both need a hickory shampoo
What's a hickory shampoo?
I thought I'd heard of most everything by now. I guess not.
That is like a rat-a-tat-tat about the head and shoulders w/a good ol' fashioned hickory nightstick
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 25, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
Wowzers. Unbelievable that people will stoop to such levels.To tell you the truth I am shocked it hasn't been on CNN yet. There was a gun used in the crime :yike:
Glad they were caught though. I am wondering if this will show up on the news.
Trail Cameras Matter To...... :chuckle:
Post by: JDHasty on July 25, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Post by: seth30 on July 25, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
I'm thinking is a pretty good chance that there is some prior offense out there that one/both have a deferred sentence hanging over their head or are on probation for.... If so, too bad, so sad, shoulda' thought about that before screwing w/someone else's property.With him using a gun to commit a crime, will that cause him to lose his gun rights?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 04:29:02 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 25, 2016, 05:55:09 PM
Both these guys have long records and both look like they have judgments pending. They need to spend time in jail.
Right on! This should erase any deals that their attorney's have in the works for them and send everyone back to the drawing board. They have just shown that any leniency on the part of the court is unwarranted. Now here is a big one, suggest to the prosecutors office that no hunting be part of any deal. Then when, not if, they violate, and get caught, hey we are not looking at rocket scientists or brain surgeons here, it starts to build up a record on that front.
Believe me there are lots of guys who will turn them in for points who live right there and will know every move they make and if it is serial violators the points will be big enough to draw interest.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 25, 2016, 06:58:33 PM
Post by: Jellymon on July 25, 2016, 09:08:53 PM
Post by: buckmaster303 on July 26, 2016, 03:09:29 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 26, 2016, 05:48:15 AM
:chuckle::chuckle: :tup:
Post by: sgtss on July 26, 2016, 06:16:36 AM
Also found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 26, 2016, 06:22:05 AM
Welcome to hunt-WA.
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2016, 06:30:19 AM
Also found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Do you mean he is baiting? Which is completely legal? Please be more specific. The attempt on Facebook to put the guy down failed. Let's see if we can flush it here as well.
PS are you one of the guys in the pictures?
Post by: sgtss on July 26, 2016, 06:41:30 AM
by the pictrue looked like he over 10 gallons of food plave so that's not legit an no iam notAlso found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Do you mean he is baiting? Which is completely legal? Please be more specific. The attempt on Facebook to put the guy down failed. Let's see if we can flush it here as well.
PS are you one of the guys in the pictures?
Post by: Sakko300wsm on July 26, 2016, 07:00:16 AM
Bring on the popcorn!
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2016, 07:08:57 AM
by the pictrue looked like he over 10 gallons of food plave so that's not legit an no iam notAlso found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Do you mean he is baiting? Which is completely legal? Please be more specific. The attempt on Facebook to put the guy down failed. Let's see if we can flush it here as well.
PS are you one of the guys in the pictures?
That's not bear baiting.
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2016, 07:20:10 AM
by the pictrue looked like he over 10 gallons of food plave so that's not legit an no iam notAlso found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Do you mean he is baiting? Which is completely legal? Please be more specific. The attempt on Facebook to put the guy down failed. Let's see if we can flush it here as well.
PS are you one of the guys in the pictures?
I don't think there are any limits on baiting unless you hunt the bait.
If I understand the rules correctly, unless a bear is shot at the bait or there is more than 10 gallons available within a 400 yard circle, baiting is legal for hunting deer or elk.
If there is more than 10 gallons of bait available within a 400 yard circle it's illegal to hunt deer or elk, but i think it would be legal to place trail cams for photos. I don't think you can hunt deer or elk within 200 yards if there has been more than 10 gallons of bait available to consume at once.
(the way I understand it was written this way to allow feeders that only put a small amount out at one time)
If anyone reads the rules differently or knows differently please correct me. :tup:
Post by: trophyhunt on July 26, 2016, 07:20:27 AM
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2016, 07:28:47 AM
I can't imagine someone sticking up for these guys, this situation is obvious, no guesses. These guys have been breaking the law for many years, and now they got caught red handed. This is where if you know them all you can say is, yup, they screwed up and they will most likely do it again. I wouldn't defend these guys with a 10' pole, it's just not going to work here.
:yeah: I can forgive someone once if they learn and change, but nobody likes a repeat offender! :dunno:
Post by: Buckmark on July 26, 2016, 07:48:49 AM
Post by: 2MANY on July 26, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2016, 08:08:43 AM
If trail cameras were outlawed this never would have happened.
You jackwagon :chuckle:
Post by: Sakko300wsm on July 26, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
If trail cameras were outlawed this never would have happened.
You jackwagon :chuckle:
Post by: TheHunt on July 26, 2016, 09:56:13 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209777571014038&set=pcb.1781732422038977&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209777571014038&set=pcb.1781732422038977&type=3&theater)
Post by: cbond3318 on July 26, 2016, 10:02:43 AM
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Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
I've never used it and am not entirely sure what it looks like.
Post by: jackmaster on July 26, 2016, 10:10:42 AM
Post by: jackmaster on July 26, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on July 26, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
Is that cob in the top picture?I think in the first pic the yellow stuff is what I call "whole corn", it's just the kernels. I use it in a rotary feeder, deer pick at it a little but mainly the birds and chipmunks like it at my place. I have better luck with antler max, apples and selenium mineral blocks to get deer and elk in front of my cameras.
I've never used it and am not entirely sure what it looks like.
Post by: runamuk on July 26, 2016, 10:23:45 AM
Is that cob in the top picture?
I've never used it and am not entirely sure what it looks like.
cob is just corn oats and barley rolled or whole with or without molasses. Thats top pic looks like wet dog food or wet pellet stove pellets. Whole cob the oats will sprout if left in the elements this time of year creating a nice oat plot. :chuckle: that is the most unappetizing looking bait I have ever seen.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2016, 10:38:49 AM
Post by: TheHunt on July 26, 2016, 11:00:53 AM
Post by: JDHasty on July 26, 2016, 02:00:31 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on July 26, 2016, 02:31:54 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on July 26, 2016, 02:42:02 PM
Someone caught in the act! Any defenders only lump them into the same company :twocents: :bash:
Post by: mdbuck5x5 on July 26, 2016, 04:49:14 PM
There are people worth sticking up for.....lots of them.
Someone caught in the act! Any defenders only lump them into the same company :twocents: :bash:
:yeah: nailed it!
Post by: OutHouse on July 27, 2016, 11:37:23 AM
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
Post by: cbond3318 on July 27, 2016, 11:39:21 AM
Had it been me, I am not sure I would have said anything other than "what's that!" pointing away so when the first one looked, he'd get knocked out.
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
I just LOL'd. :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on July 27, 2016, 11:46:14 AM
Had it been me, I am not sure I would have said anything other than "what's that!" pointing away so when the first one looked, he'd get knocked out.Nock out the guy with the gun first of course, I love your plan!!
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
Post by: haugenna on July 27, 2016, 11:49:06 AM
Had it been me, I am not sure I would have said anything other than "what's that!" pointing away so when the first one looked, he'd get knocked out.
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
The classic look over there move. :chuckle: The fight could have been caught on camera and hopefully nobody would have died over a trail camera.
Post by: OutHouse on July 27, 2016, 11:54:09 AM
Had it been me, I am not sure I would have said anything other than "what's that!" pointing away so when the first one looked, he'd get knocked out.Nock out the guy with the gun first of course, I love your plan!!
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
That's right! I hate to want to resort to violence, but these are hunters screwing over other hunters. Hunters already have a bad reputation. Let's hope the charges stick. He should call the prosecutor's office every two weeks to see what the status of the case is.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 27, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Theses guys are not hunters. They are thieves. :twocents:Had it been me, I am not sure I would have said anything other than "what's that!" pointing away so when the first one looked, he'd get knocked out.Nock out the guy with the gun first of course, I love your plan!!
*keep it family-friendly, thank you*
That's right! I hate to want to resort to violence, but these are hunters screwing over other hunters. Hunters already have a bad reputation. Let's hope the charges stick. He should call the prosecutor's office every two weeks to see what the status of the case is.
Post by: jtrammell on November 16, 2016, 10:42:44 PM
Also found out one of them already has a warrant out for his arrest and one is running a bear bait in his back yard. I'm sure if he is he has cleaned it up by now with all the Facebook talk. The guy that caught them said fish and game and the cops are on it, they are well known poachers as well as thieves.the guy that got his stuff messed with has a bear bait going
Post by: jtrammell on November 16, 2016, 10:59:48 PM
First let me reiterate, I WAS NOT BAITING BEARS. This happened in July and the last time I had a bear on camera I believe May. The three wardens(Summit, Prater, and Flowers) went out to the site and all agreed I was not baiting bears. They did question some stuff and I told them the 100% truth. They did ask if I knew the new reg about 10 gallons and I was 100% honest with them and told them it was more than 10 gallons but I was under the impression that if I wasn't hunting it, there could be more than 10. They explained the reg says if I have the INTENT to hunt there, it can't be over 10 gallons. I said roger and we moved on. As far as the trash goes, I found that to be a sad sad attempt of them trying to "frame" me. Then they posted a video of them being the "heroes" and picking it up. Now, I saw someone mention something about me having to explain to the owners of Manke. Funny you say that, he was the third person I personally called. I have a very good relationship with the owner and property manager. I let him know if I see ANYTHING out of place or strange.
Now, as far as getting the ID from him. He was SCARED. You could tell by the sound of his voice he was scared. I knew he had a gun and he was STILL SCARED. Guns don't scare me at all and I knew once his voice was cracking, he was mine. Doesn't help him that I'm 5'10 240 and the buddy I was with is 6'8 280.
Now, if you have ANY questions, please fell free to ask. I will answer them 100% truthfully, because I'm not the one being charged with anything and I have nothing to hide or lie about.
Post by: buckmaster303 on November 17, 2016, 02:25:10 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 17, 2016, 05:42:21 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 17, 2016, 07:23:44 AM
Sorry for the sidetrack but thanks again for the additional details.
Post by: jtrammell on November 17, 2016, 08:33:15 AM
As far as the bait goes, they said it's all about intent. For example- If I dump 50 gallons of apples in front of a camera, and all I was doing was seeing whats in the area, I am good. If I dump 50 gallons in front of a camera and I intend to put a tress stand up in that area, I am not good. They said the key word is INTEND.
Now,he did ask me multiple times if I intended to hunt there, because it was over 10 gallons. He asked A LOT, and sometimes slow. I knew what he was trying to do. He wanted me to say "No" so it was a nonissue. Finally I said "I know you want me to say no. But I will continue to say yes. I'm not going to lie."
Thanks for updating here with so many details. The one about the bait is super helpful. I was unsure about the 10 gallon rule when you weren't hunting, a bale of orchard grass is over the 10 gallon limit. I figured if I wasn't hunting in January it would be okay to toss out a full bail. Sounds like it is if I don't hunt that area. I think just to be safe I will break the bale up and spread it out in a couple of locations 200 yards apart.
Sorry for the sidetrack but thanks again for the additional details.
Post by: jtrammell on January 22, 2017, 12:48:39 PM
Nathan was suppose to have his pre-trial conference last week but was unable to make it. The prosecutor called me and said that it has been rescheduled for 23 February and he plans on changing his plea from "Not guilty" to "guilty".
Post by: trophyhunt on January 22, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
*UPDATE*good to hear!
Nathan was suppose to have his pre-trial conference last week but was unable to make it. The prosecutor called me and said that it has been rescheduled for 23 February and he plans on changing his plea from "Not guilty" to "guilty".
Post by: Dan-o on January 22, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
I hope those guys catch the max penalty...... and I totally applaud how you are handling it.
Post by: jtrammell on February 20, 2017, 03:58:14 PM
Post by: 3nails on February 20, 2017, 04:44:46 PM
Post by: jtrammell on February 20, 2017, 09:34:40 PM
I will be more than a little despondent if the punishment is not harsh in such a cut and dried case.
I'm sure it wont be harsh. The first guy got 10 days of electronic home monitoring, had to pay for the ankle bracelet and additional fines. But like I have told everyone, SOMETHING is better than nothing. Many people have had cameras stolen, nobody was lucky as I was to catch the person doing it.
Post by: jtrammell on February 23, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Post by: h20hunter on February 23, 2017, 02:43:57 PM
Post by: Buckmark on February 23, 2017, 02:53:55 PM
But question, why the breathalyzer for his vehicle? (sure i missed something)
Post by: jtrammell on February 23, 2017, 02:57:09 PM
:tup:
But question, why the breathalyzer for his vehicle? (sure i missed something)
I was confused by that as well. I was told it might have been for a prior conviction. He's a repeat offender.
Post by: KFhunter on February 23, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Post by: jtrammell on February 23, 2017, 03:04:52 PM
Maybe I missed it, was this on private property or public land?
Logging company land
Post by: KFhunter on February 23, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 23, 2017, 03:46:59 PM