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Title: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 30, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
A lot of people drawn for multi season deer are not showing up as drawn and are not able to purchase tags.I guess they should have bought them earlier then the last 2 days.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: bobcat on July 30, 2016, 02:24:54 PM
Or is it that they have already purchased a deer tag? If so, yesterday was the last day they could have purchased the multi season tag, because the first tag they bought needs to be turned in before the ms tag can be purchased. That can only be done when the WDFW office in Olympia is open.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2016, 02:29:00 PM
I've bought deer tags, then bought MS tags after the fact and not gone to Olympia to do it. Did it at Fred Meyer in fact. Are you saying the only place someone can buy their MS tag after purchasing a deer tag is in Olympia?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: badnewskruse on July 30, 2016, 02:33:23 PM
me and my fiance do all of our tag buying online and we both got our multi season deer tags without any hassle at all
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: bobcat on July 30, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
I've bought deer tags, then bought MS tags after the fact and not gone to Olympia to do it. Did it at Fred Meyer in fact. Are you saying the only place someone can buy their MS tag after purchasing a deer tag is in Olympia?

No, but the license dealer has to call the WDFW office in Olympia so the original tag purchased can be removed from the system, so that the other tag can be purchased. At least that is my understanding of how it works. Weren't you required to turn in the original tag at Fred Meyer before they would sell you the multi season tag?

I could be wrong. But that is how it is was for me once when I exchanged an archery deer tag for a muzzleloader deer tag, and I'm assuming the process is the same when exchanging a tag for a multi season tag.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: MADMAX on July 30, 2016, 02:45:29 PM
It is :yeah:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: redi on July 30, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
I exchanged my deer tag and purchased my multi season deer tag at Cabela's this week. Cabela's had to call WDF and kept my original deer tag. If you haven't chosen and accepted your tag it is easier to buy the multi season.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 30, 2016, 03:33:59 PM
Yes this is all accurate  :yeah:.I guess the problem lies in some of the retailers telling people that they had to buy the general tag in some places,now they waited and don't have a way to turn in said general tag until the after hours DFW gets a call from the applicant to be put on a list making it ok to buy the tag and turn in the general tag Sat. or Sun.

      must call or you wont get it if you have not already.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: pd on July 30, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Given that WDFW has not yet decided what to do with the leftover tags, it might be worth a call to Olympia first thing Monday morning, and simply say: "I tried to purchase on 7/31, but could not.  Please sell it to me now."

Couldn't hurt to try.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 30, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
you dont have to wait until monday.if you wait you lose it.you must call the after hours number.1 360 902 2464
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2016, 06:56:06 PM
I've bought deer tags, then bought MS tags after the fact and not gone to Olympia to do it. Did it at Fred Meyer in fact. Are you saying the only place someone can buy their MS tag after purchasing a deer tag is in Olympia?

No, but the license dealer has to call the WDFW office in Olympia so the original tag purchased can be removed from the system, so that the other tag can be purchased. At least that is my understanding of how it works. Weren't you required to turn in the original tag at Fred Meyer before they would sell you the multi season tag?

I could be wrong. But that is how it is was for me once when I exchanged an archery deer tag for a muzzleloader deer tag, and I'm assuming the process is the same when exchanging a tag for a multi season tag.

I gave the lady my tag and she looked at me weird. I told her she was gonna need that and left it at that. I wasn't sure what the process was, and she didn't look like she knew either. I left with a multiseason permit and 1 tag in my pocket though. This was ~4 years ago maybe?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: fishnfur on July 30, 2016, 09:35:47 PM
You got selected for a second deer tag by the untrained sports dept. worker!  Wasted the tag, didn't you?  (pat yourself on the back).

Sounds like similar experiences I've had at Walmart, which is the closest license dealer to my house (though I do like to hang out there for the quality of the people I encounter).  :chuckle:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: AKBowman on July 30, 2016, 10:11:19 PM
This seems to be the deal. If you declared a weapon and bought that weapons deer tag then after the fact, drew a multi deer permit, the dealer has to contact WDFW before they can cancel your original tag and issue you your multi season tag.

If WDFW is closed today and tomorrow (last 2 days you can buy the multi season) and you have purchased a tag before drawing multi and now want to surrender your tag and buy multi you are hozed.

I bought my multi today but had not declared a season prior. A guy in front of me did and the system would not let him buy his multi. They should be given a break for that. If it says you can wait until July 31 than you should be given until July 31.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 30, 2016, 10:37:53 PM
Earlier in this thread i have posted how to do it.AFTER HOURS WDFW NUMBER they will tell you everything you can do to get your tag.must call by midnight 31st.


                 last from me on this
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on July 31, 2016, 06:20:38 AM
I've bought deer tags, then bought MS tags after the fact and not gone to Olympia to do it. Did it at Fred Meyer in fact. Are you saying the only place someone can buy their MS tag after purchasing a deer tag is in Olympia?

No, but the license dealer has to call the WDFW office in Olympia so the original tag purchased can be removed from the system, so that the other tag can be purchased. At least that is my understanding of how it works. Weren't you required to turn in the original tag at Fred Meyer before they would sell you the multi season tag?

I could be wrong. But that is how it is was for me once when I exchanged an archery deer tag for a muzzleloader deer tag, and I'm assuming the process is the same when exchanging a tag for a multi season tag.

I made two posts about this falling on Sunday and that if you have a tag Friday would be the latest you could consummate the purchase of the MS tag. 
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: shanevg on July 31, 2016, 01:37:49 PM
Are leftover tags going on sale tomorrow morning (8/1) like they did last year?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Muleyslyr on July 31, 2016, 01:42:49 PM

If WDFW is closed today and tomorrow (last 2 days you can buy the multi season) and you have purchased a tag before drawing multi and now want to surrender your tag and buy multi you are hozed.



K, you are NOT "hozed"! I just now called the after hours number that Oh Mah provided, talked a representative and she took my info, told me someone will call me back tomorrow when office hours are open and that I am OK. As long as you call in to this after hour number before midnight tonight you can still purchase your multi-season tag! Like I said, I literally just did. Phew!
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on July 31, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
Ya you just take you tag in when buying it at any retailer

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Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: redi on July 31, 2016, 03:37:38 PM
I returned to the license dealer today and had them call the Game Dept again, the person took my sons info and my number. A few hours later they called me and confirmed I wanted to trade his tag in and purchase the multiseason deer tag. They said I could purchase on line and mail them his rifle deer tag or go to a vendor and buy it and leave the tag with them. I went to the license agent and had his multi season deer tag in minutes.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on July 31, 2016, 04:32:38 PM
Are leftover tags going on sale tomorrow morning (8/1) like they did last year?

No decision yet
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Jason on July 31, 2016, 04:36:27 PM
Sorry boys one less left over tag, bought my MS Elk this morning.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 31, 2016, 04:45:15 PM
You late comers should thank oh mah for posting the number to call to get your tag, very considerate of him.  I personally don't understand why people wait till the last damn minute to do something than get all pissy when something is messed up. 
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on July 31, 2016, 06:23:08 PM
You late comers should thank oh mah for posting the number to call to get your tag, very considerate of him.  I personally don't understand why people wait till the last damn minute to do something than get all pissy when something is messed up.
:yeah:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: CJ1962 on August 01, 2016, 07:41:53 AM
Are leftover tags going on sale tomorrow morning (8/1) like they did last year?

No decision yet

Does anyone know when they might decide?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: kirkl on August 01, 2016, 07:52:46 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: PA BEN on August 01, 2016, 08:41:17 AM
The Reg.s page 8, z Please note that if you purchased your license and tag
before you were selected, your general season tag must
be surrendered before a multiple season tag can be
purchased.
z If selected, multi-season tags will be available to
purchase any time prior to August 1.
z Permits not purchased by successful applicants by August
1 may be sold to non-selected applicants on a first-come,
first-served basis.
I just tried to buy mine and the game Dept. said someone is giving out miss information about them on sale today. They said keep checking the web site.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: TrailTreker85 on August 01, 2016, 08:43:09 AM
Are leftover tags going on sale tomorrow morning (8/1) like they did last year?

No decision yet

Does anyone know when they might decide?

I just called WDFW and they said they wouldn't know anything till Friday.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on August 01, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around. 
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Bob33 on August 01, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: kirkl on August 01, 2016, 09:41:52 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

 :yeah: you just end up having 10 redraws.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: baker5150 on August 01, 2016, 09:45:20 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

They just need to make the second round drawing pre-purchase.  Re-imbursement if not drawn

Gives everyone who is serious about purchasing a fair shake at getting one.

Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on August 01, 2016, 10:01:53 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

 :yeah: you just end up having 10 redraws.

A second redraw of those who didn't get drawn the first time around and then that is it.  Any that people don't pay for just don't get sold. 
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on August 01, 2016, 10:02:43 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

They just need to make the second round drawing pre-purchase.  Re-imbursement if not drawn

Gives everyone who is serious about purchasing a fair shake at getting one.

You got that right!   
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: buglebrush on August 01, 2016, 10:37:01 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

They just need to make the second round drawing pre-purchase.  Re-imbursement if not drawn

Gives everyone who is serious about purchasing a fair shake at getting one.
:yeah:. I wish it was prepay for the first draw too.  Get rid of all the tire kickers and increase odds for those of us who actually desperately want a tag!
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: JDHasty on August 01, 2016, 11:21:51 AM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

They just need to make the second round drawing pre-purchase.  Re-imbursement if not drawn

Gives everyone who is serious about purchasing a fair shake at getting one.
:yeah:. I wish it was prepay for the first draw too.  Get rid of all the tire kickers and increase odds for those of us who actually desperately want a tag!

I don't have a problem w/that. 
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Antlershed on August 01, 2016, 11:59:37 AM

If WDFW is closed today and tomorrow (last 2 days you can buy the multi season) and you have purchased a tag before drawing multi and now want to surrender your tag and buy multi you are hozed.



K, you are NOT "hozed"! I just now called the after hours number that Oh Mah provided, talked a representative and she took my info, told me someone will call me back tomorrow when office hours are open and that I am OK. As long as you call in to this after hour number before midnight tonight you can still purchase your multi-season tag! Like I said, I literally just did. Phew!
Anybody get a call back yet?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on August 01, 2016, 12:04:25 PM
The Reg.s page 8, z Please note that if you purchased your license and tag
before you were selected, your general season tag must
be surrendered before a multiple season tag can be
purchased.
z If selected, multi-season tags will be available to
purchase any time prior to August 1.
z Permits not purchased by successful applicants by August
1 may be sold to non-selected applicants on a first-come,
first-served basis.
I just tried to buy mine and the game Dept. said someone is giving out miss information about them on sale today. They said keep checking the web site.
This information you bring up came out after the draw did it not?What i was told was that the stores told a lot of people that they had to buy the tags first,that is where the problem is-----------plus that they waited until the last day.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on August 01, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Has anyone been called?
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Antlershed on August 01, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
Has anyone been called?
Nope  :dunno:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on August 01, 2016, 12:35:36 PM
Actually i stand corrected,The regs that were quoted by PA BEN are in reference to next years draw.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Harbor_hunter on August 01, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
I went to buy a left over this morning and no good.  Figures the one year I didnt draw, and actually want a tag there is an issue.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Antlershed on August 01, 2016, 01:01:53 PM
Has anyone been called?
Nope  :dunno:
I just went and did mine in person. She said they are so slammed with calls they are struggling to return calls from the weekend.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Bob33 on August 01, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
Needs to be first come first serve in store and online as well. Shouldn't just be for the people that are able to take a couple hours off of work.

They should be redrawn and the redraw should be only open to those who entered and were not selected first time around.
That's been tried. The same situation occurs where some who are drawn do not purchase the permits, resulting in left overs again. First come, first served resolves that never-ending cycle.

 :yeah: you just end up having 10 redraws.

A second redraw of those who didn't get drawn the first time around and then that is it.  Any that people don't pay for just don't get sold.
While that be a logical approach, (a) WDFW is not going to forego the chance to sell all the available multi-season permits at $140+/each, and (b) WDFW is not going to incur the additional trouble and expense of modifying the system to require pre-payment, processing the pre-payments, determining who is due a refund, and processing/mailing the refunds. It’s simpler to turn it over to the dealers to sell the remaining permits on a first-come, first-serve basis.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: lamrith on August 01, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
There are alway deer tags left over.  Everyone needs to be patient, I am sure they will go on sale 1st come 1st served like always later this month.  There were deer ms tags stiil left on Dec 15 of last year..

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Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on August 01, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
My friend just called me said he got called by the WDFW,He went down and bought his multi season tag no problem.(that he was drawn for)He said the WDFW told him that it had to be bought before the end of today.So they might start selling left overs later this week.  :dunno:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Duffer on August 01, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
I just ran down to store cuz I totally spaced the deadline. Option not available. Done, over, screwed up and missed out
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: buglebrush on August 01, 2016, 04:51:12 PM
I just ran down to store cuz I totally spaced the deadline. Option not available. Done, over, screwed up and missed out
Please tell me this was for elk!    :drool:

 :sry:
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Muleyslyr on August 01, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
Has anyone been called?

Yep. They called me today. Done deal.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Muleyslyr on August 01, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
My friend just called me said he got called by the WDFW,He went down and bought his multi season tag no problem.(that he was drawn for)He said the WDFW told him that it had to be bought before the end of today.So they might start selling left overs later this week.  :dunno:

You have till 4:30 tomorrow as long as you called in before midnight last night. This is straight from the WDFW.
Title: Re: problem with WDFW and multi season tags.
Post by: Oh Mah on August 01, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
 :yeah:
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