Post by: JeffRaines on July 31, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 31, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
Post by: bugs n bones on July 31, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
Post by: JeffRaines on July 31, 2016, 02:53:04 PM
Discover Pass and Tree Farm Permits??
I can sort-of understand the decline in 653 due to tree farm permits... but then Mashel is probably the best in the area due to tree farm permits, and now 653, according to harvest numbers, is way low. I guess the reason for the others like South Rainier and Packwood is due to the lack of logging, so then I take it logging is still going strong in the northwest GMUs?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 31, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Post by: JeffRaines on July 31, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
before logging, the early homesteaders in Washington didn't report many bear or deer. Once some land was opened up, the bear population started to go up. (so I read anyways)
Very interesting!
Post by: Kittman on August 01, 2016, 07:14:42 AM
Post by: HUNT-HARD on August 01, 2016, 11:18:05 AM
Post by: jackmaster on August 01, 2016, 11:20:40 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 01, 2016, 11:29:36 AM
We lost bear baiting and hound huntn!! Those two were the only effective bear huntn methods:lol4:
Post by: JeffRaines on August 01, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
We lost bear baiting and hound huntn!! Those two were the only effective bear huntn methods:lol4:
Yeah, as far back as I looked in the hunting regs... I think I went as far back as 2008, they were both illegal. The numbers were still high then, too.
I don't know maybe people aren't reporting. I have been hunting bears in western Washington for a lot of years and last year was the first year we didn't kill multiple bears. Last year was tough because all the berries were gone or dried up by the time the season came around.
I know that the north cascade gmus still produce bear no doubt, but the south cascades used to be much better.
Post by: seth30 on August 01, 2016, 01:00:35 PM
Wolves!! :chuckle:We lost bear baiting and hound huntn!! Those two were the only effective bear huntn methods:lol4:
Yeah, as far back as I looked in the hunting regs... I think I went as far back as 2008, they were both illegal. The numbers were still high then, too.I don't know maybe people aren't reporting. I have been hunting bears in western Washington for a lot of years and last year was the first year we didn't kill multiple bears. Last year was tough because all the berries were gone or dried up by the time the season came around.
I know that the north cascade gmus still produce bear no doubt, but the south cascades used to be much better.
Post by: rasbo on August 01, 2016, 01:07:03 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on August 01, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on August 01, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
Post by: jackmaster on August 01, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
Infertility drugs in the pellets at the feed stations on tree farms is more likely.or :yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 01, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
Post by: BUTTER on August 01, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 01, 2016, 03:10:35 PM
Post by: justyhntr on August 01, 2016, 03:31:13 PM
I believe the bears are still there,I think a lot of the hunters have changed..
:yeah:
653 has a lot of bears , just take some apples up somewhere and put a camera on it . A couple years ago we did this to see if deer would come in , what we got was over a hundred pictures of 7 different bears .I don't bother putting apples out anymore . 654 is the same way , there are a lot of bears . We are on Hancock managed land so that may make a difference , they are logging and there are a lot of cuts unlike a lot of the public land in those units .
Post by: JakeLand on August 01, 2016, 06:25:22 PM
My :twocents: but there's still bear out there you just got to follow the berries right now
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 02, 2016, 07:14:25 AM
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 02, 2016, 08:39:13 AM
You guys must live on the wrong side of the state. We have a buttload of bear in the 101 unit.
Man Camp meat, don't tell anyone, that's a well kept secret! :chuckle:
Post by: huntingaddiction on August 02, 2016, 08:44:11 AM
Post by: 180-GRAIN on August 02, 2016, 09:13:52 AM
Post by: rasbo on August 03, 2016, 10:12:56 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 03, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
I have taken several people up where I used to hunt,only 2 of them would stay where I told them to stay,they got bears,the others were afraid of the area it was to thick..An old houndsman showed me a couple of trails bears used every year,and these trails put out..They were steep ridges with tons of cover...Lots of small drainages which the bears love, running off these ridges..The bears are still there,the people for the most part wont get after them..Geez and some of the crap folks think they have to bring everytime they get out of the rig is unreal...Damn ya would think they were hiking the pacific crest trail south to north...Man I wish I still had the legs to hunt these areas...
PM me your spots I will live it for you rasbo
Post by: JeffRaines on August 03, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
I have taken several people up where I used to hunt,only 2 of them would stay where I told them to stay,they got bears,the others were afraid of the area it was to thick..An old houndsman showed me a couple of trails bears used every year,and these trails put out..They were steep ridges with tons of cover...Lots of small drainages which the bears love, running off these ridges..The bears are still there,the people for the most part wont get after them..Geez and some of the crap folks think they have to bring everytime they get out of the rig is unreal...Damn ya would think they were hiking the pacific crest trail south to north...Man I wish I still had the legs to hunt these areas...
PM me your spots I will live it for you rasbo
Agreed!
Getting out of the truck isn't the issue with me at least. I enjoy hiking in the off season so putting in miles/elevation doesn't scare me in the least. I just wanted to know if there was any one change that's happened to lower the bear hunting success locally.
Post by: Whitenuckles on August 03, 2016, 12:13:39 PM
Post by: klikboom on August 03, 2016, 12:25:09 PM
I have taken several people up where I used to hunt,only 2 of them would stay where I told them to stay,they got bears,the others were afraid of the area it was to thick..An old houndsman showed me a couple of trails bears used every year,and these trails put out..They were steep ridges with tons of cover...Lots of small drainages which the bears love, running off these ridges..The bears are still there,the people for the most part wont get after them..Geez and some of the crap folks think they have to bring everytime they get out of the rig is unreal...Damn ya would think they were hiking the pacific crest trail south to north...Man I wish I still had the legs to hunt these areas...
I'd like to hear more about how you hunt the west side ridges. Do you find them running ridges during day? I've never seen a bear in timber yet, always the open. I actually know of a timbered ridge which i saw huge bear piles but it was in mature timber so limited visibility. Are you sitting on this ridge all day every day till it produces?
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 03, 2016, 03:10:44 PM
D-rock doesn't seem to have problems. I think it has a lot to do with getting out of your truck.
Do not give him this much credit....
Post by: rasbo on August 04, 2016, 03:59:09 AM
I've shot bears in the am and pm,and at noonish...if its breeding time I will park on one trail,but I love to side hill using thermals,walking very slow and listen and call in some..Its very close hunting so you must pay attention to wind and thermal..when these clear cuts are full grown bears can be feeding and you will never see some of them..Ive only had one bear try to put the hurt on me and that was while I was hiking in deer hunting one morning,he came at me and I shot him point blank in the face,he flipped over and hauled butt ,I went back down to the road and checked myself to see if I leaked anything in my drawers..went and got my partner who was in another drainage,we found what looked like pieces of tongue or lips,we tracked that bear with a good blood trail over a mile,then it started pouring rain we lost all sign after another 1/2mile or so,and we were trespassing at that time no bear..His front pad was 6 1/2 inches....I have taken several people up where I used to hunt,only 2 of them would stay where I told them to stay,they got bears,the others were afraid of the area it was to thick..An old houndsman showed me a couple of trails bears used every year,and these trails put out..They were steep ridges with tons of cover...Lots of small drainages which the bears love, running off these ridges..The bears are still there,the people for the most part wont get after them..Geez and some of the crap folks think they have to bring everytime they get out of the rig is unreal...Damn ya would think they were hiking the pacific crest trail south to north...Man I wish I still had the legs to hunt these areas...
I'd like to hear more about how you hunt the west side ridges. Do you find them running ridges during day? I've never seen a bear in timber yet, always the open. I actually know of a timbered ridge which i saw huge bear piles but it was in mature timber so limited visibility. Are you sitting on this ridge all day every day till it produces?
Post by: Turner89 on August 05, 2016, 09:06:19 AM
I haven't made it out in the woods all summer this year due to work, but I would think this should be a good year for berries, and bears.
Post by: h20hunter on August 05, 2016, 09:29:37 AM
Post by: Turner89 on August 05, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
Post by: bear hunter on August 05, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 05, 2016, 10:01:36 PM
Post by: Turner89 on August 07, 2016, 01:28:56 PM
My sons bear at 7:30 last night. :bfg:
Post by: jackmaster on August 09, 2016, 09:08:02 AM