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Title: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 30, 2016, 09:21:42 PM
Picked up a couple Ruger Americans .243 for the kids today. I'm having a bit of dilemma on scope size for them. Kids are still too young to shoot them so I'm probably going to outfit one for me. I'm more of a 30 caliber guy so am open to some input on what power for them. At first I was thinking 4-12x40 or maybe a 16 power. But one of my .308's has the Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 and another rifle has the 6.5-20x44 and it was $299 shipped. I'm now leaning towards that scope.

What's everyone using on their .243?

One last thing...... I will only buy Vortex products. So if you have any recommendations, please keep them to Vortex only. Thank you!
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2016, 09:28:11 PM
Okay, until I read your last sentence I was going to say, you can get a really nice Leupold scope for $150 to $200, after the $50 rebate they're now offering.

Either way, I'd recommend a 3-9x40, but I suppose a 4-12x40 would be okay, but I definitely would not go any bigger.

Those Americans are very light and compact rifles and I think a smaller scope would be a better fit.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Taco280AI on August 30, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Keep it simple, 3-9x40. I imagine kids will have a harder time keeping it steady. More X will make it appear to move around more making the shot harder.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Bob33 on August 30, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
9x is plenty for all distances a beginning hunter will be shooting.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 30, 2016, 09:54:55 PM
The one I set up for the kids will definitely have a smaller scope, 2-8 or 3-9.

Was more so asking about the one I plan on setting up for me. What's the effective range of .243? Target range and ethical hunting range? I'm glued to my .308 but may end up taking the .243 out for deer.

Thanks for the replies so far, as far as my last sentence, as I just read it again it can come across snobby/rude, those are not my intentions. I just really like Vortex and want to keep all my glass from them.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 30, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Diamondback Scopes from Vortex will be fine. Lots of reticle options and decent glass for a good price.

Nothing wrong with brand loyalty UNLESS you handicap yourself with it.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: bobcat on August 30, 2016, 11:15:27 PM
What type of hunting do you do? A 243 should be good out to 350 to 400 yards on deer. A 20x scope seems like overkill unless you only take long shots. The accuracy of your rifle will determine maximum range more than the cartridge. I still say a 4-12x is more than enough scope for that rifle.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Taco280AI on August 31, 2016, 06:01:01 AM
One thing I'm wondering about is how accurate will my new Ruger be. As stated above that might be the limiting factor
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: headshot5 on August 31, 2016, 06:12:18 AM
If you reload, you should be able to get <1" groups.  For just a knock around gun they are pretty good.  The stocks aren't super stiff, so it'll take some work to shoot off a bipod.     

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One thing I'm wondering about is how accurate will my new Ruger be. As stated above that might be the limiting factor
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: splitshot on August 31, 2016, 07:09:18 AM
  I had a ruger 243 till my granddaughter got hold of it.  she drives tacks at 100 yards but it had a leupold on it.    mike w
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on August 31, 2016, 07:52:48 AM
My Tikka .243 is my coyote gun and I'm running a 4-12x40 Diamondback. I've shot plates out to 580yds with it. Thinking of getting another one for the RA 30-06 I picked up over the weekend or possibly the 3-12x42 Diamondback HP.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Bill W on August 31, 2016, 07:54:58 AM
What type of hunting do you do? A 243 should be good out to 350 to 400 yards on deer. A 20x scope seems like overkill unless you only take long shots. The accuracy of your rifle will determine maximum range more than the cartridge. I still say a 4-12x is more than enough scope for that rifle.

Depending on the accuracy of the Ruger American, a 20x scope may be overkill.  It might allow you to see what you can't hit.  I favor a 3x9 in 32 or 40mm size.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: CP on August 31, 2016, 08:01:24 AM

One last thing...... I will only buy Vortex products. So if you have any recommendations, please keep them to Vortex only. Thank you!

Why Vortex?  I've never used them - what makes them better than say Simmons? 
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 31, 2016, 10:21:41 AM
Did some shopping around last night, decided on two scopes. The diamondback 4-14x42 is the front runner. Second up is the diamondback 4-12x40 (I believe) but it doesn't have the side parralax adjustment, and I prefer that.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 31, 2016, 10:44:00 AM

One last thing...... I will only buy Vortex products. So if you have any recommendations, please keep them to Vortex only. Thank you!

Why Vortex?  I've never used them - what makes them better than say Simmons?

To answer why, it's just a personal choice of mine. I have 2 red dots, 5 scopes, binos, and a range finder. All vortex. First and foremost, their glass is pretty damn clear, even for their lower base models. I'm yet to use their warranty but have called with questions and every time a person answers and their customer service is great. Their warranty is a NO BS one, no proof of purchase and they'll fix or replace every time.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on August 31, 2016, 10:48:13 AM
Did some shopping around last night, decided on two scopes. The diamondback 4-14x42 is the front runner. Second up is the diamondback 4-12x40 (I believe) but it doesn't have the side parralax adjustment, and I prefer that.

The Diamondback HPs have a side parallax adjustment.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2420373744/vortex-optics-diamondback-hp-rifle-scope-4-16x-42mm-matte
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: JustinC on August 31, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
I just set up this .243 Tikka for my son and went with the Leupold VX2 3-9x33 CDS Ultralight. I know you're stuck on Vortex but I think this is one of the best options for a youth rifle.

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Combined with the Javelin bipod this setup is sweet!

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Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 31, 2016, 11:01:42 AM
My 243 wears a 4.5-14 vx3. I feel like it's a good scope range for a 243 for hunting purposes. It'll get me to 500 yards easily with the single rotation elevation knob (actually closer to 800 depending on conditions). If I need more I'll take out a different rifle.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: JDHasty on August 31, 2016, 11:06:33 AM
Did some shopping around last night, decided on two scopes. The diamondback 4-14x42 is the front runner. Second up is the diamondback 4-12x40 (I believe) but it doesn't have the side parralax adjustment, and I prefer that.

Does it have parralax adj out on the objective?? Or does it not have it period?  I could understand preferring a scope w/o parallax adj, but cannot get my mind around preferring front as opposed to side adj. 
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 31, 2016, 01:34:20 PM
Did some shopping around last night, decided on two scopes. The diamondback 4-14x42 is the front runner. Second up is the diamondback 4-12x40 (I believe) but it doesn't have the side parralax adjustment, and I prefer that.

Does it have parralax adj out on the objective?? Or does it not have it period?  I could understand preferring a scope w/o parallax adj, but cannot get my mind around preferring front as opposed to side adj.

I don't know anyone who would want one with the adjustment on the objective. The one I've settled on has it on the side, where it should be.

http://cameralandny.com/spec-sheet.html?catalog[name]=Vortex-Diamondback-HP-4-16x42---Dead-Hold-BDC-%23DBK-10019-diamondback--hp&catalog[product_guids][0]=1249389
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 31, 2016, 01:34:47 PM
Did some shopping around last night, decided on two scopes. The diamondback 4-14x42 is the front runner. Second up is the diamondback 4-12x40 (I believe) but it doesn't have the side parralax adjustment, and I prefer that.

The Diamondback HPs have a side parallax adjustment.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2420373744/vortex-optics-diamondback-hp-rifle-scope-4-16x-42mm-matte

Yup, that's the one.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Itchin4huntin on August 31, 2016, 01:39:28 PM
I just set up this .243 Tikka for my son and went with the Leupold VX2 3-9x33 CDS Ultralight. I know you're stuck on Vortex but I think this is one of the best options for a youth rifle.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi393.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp18%2FJustincrossley_album%2FGuns%2FIMG_3668_zpsp64iuskl.jpg&hash=0452916343d2e0801902222bbc67e25529c382d2)

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Combined with the Javelin bipod this setup is sweet!

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi393.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp18%2FJustincrossley_album%2F2016%2FIMG_3683_zps8sif7knd.jpg&hash=6899d7bfc939303afa79499039b9daf88700420a)

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That's a nice looking rifle!
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: JeffRaines on September 01, 2016, 11:24:00 AM

One last thing...... I will only buy Vortex products. So if you have any recommendations, please keep them to Vortex only. Thank you!

Why Vortex?  I've never used them - what makes them better than say Simmons?

To answer why, it's just a personal choice of mine. I have 2 red dots, 5 scopes, binos, and a range finder. All vortex. First and foremost, their glass is pretty damn clear, even for their lower base models. I'm yet to use their warranty but have called with questions and every time a person answers and their customer service is great. Their warranty is a NO BS one, no proof of purchase and they'll fix or replace every time.

I have used their warranty. My spotting scopes micro focus wheel was inoperable. I called them and two days later had a brand new scope sitting on my porch and return postage paid for the old one. Definitely worth it!
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: JLR on September 02, 2016, 08:12:33 AM
The 2.5-10x Vortex PST is a great option.  I have looked through a few of them and know a lot of guys that use them.  Very good scope for the money.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Fshnpole on September 04, 2016, 04:18:31 PM
Cabelas has the 4-12x40 diamondback with the v-plex reticle for $150 right now.  Not a crazy deal but the cheapest I could find it by a few dollars and didnt have to have it shipped. Put one on my ruger American 30-06, with it a 4 power I can still easily find a target fast at close range and get a little extra magnification at longer range I really like it so far.
Title: Re: Scope for a .243?
Post by: Motorjosh on September 04, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
2.5-10x44 viper hs. I shoot from 100 to 1k yards with it. Good scopes!!
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