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Title: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: wolfbait on September 07, 2016, 11:14:43 AM
Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/state-ag-proposes-assault-weapons-ban/?utm_source=The+Seattle+Times&utm_campaign=04be201974-Alert_BREAKING%3A_State_attorney_general_proposes_as&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_5beb38b61e-04be201974-122391833
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: WAPatriot on September 07, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
AIDS
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: jackmaster on September 07, 2016, 11:19:50 AM
To bad mine got stolen  :'( damn thieves :bash:
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bigtex on September 07, 2016, 11:25:27 AM
We'll see what happens with this years election for state legislature. Right now the Republican controlled "majority caucus" controls the Senate. But if the Democrats regain control of the state Senate who knows what will happen. Although I personally think a voter initiative for this matter would have a higher likelihood of passing then a bill in the legislature. :twocents:
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: CP on September 07, 2016, 11:27:24 AM
He’s up for reelection this year but he is practically unopposed (only a libertarian on the ballet).  I guess he feels secure enough to in his position to propose screwing over his constituents.   
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Cougartail on September 07, 2016, 11:38:48 AM
If that little communist weasel was really worried about my safety he would ban sanctuary cities and force the deportation of all illegal aliens. A quick look at statistics shows AR-15 are not a big problem in America when compared to drugs and crime coming out of Mexico.

Just more pandering to those brain dead, emotional morons who call themselves "Liberals".

Rant over.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 07, 2016, 11:42:09 AM
Quit stealing the words out of my mouth, Cougartail.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Curly on September 07, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
From the article:
Quote
Sen. David Frockt, D-Seattle, said a number of states have passed similar legislation. He said Washington’s proposal would grandfather in legally owned assault weapons.

So, does that mean that if you already own an AR, then if this ban passes you can still go out shooting your AR?  Wouldn't talk of this make sales skyrocket?  Wouldn't this be a great time to go by an AR or two to get ahead of the ban?

Say you already have a firearm with a high cap magazine and they ban the mags.  Are they simply banning the sale or do you then need to plug the magazine so that you are limited to 10 rounds?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bigtex on September 07, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
From the article:
Quote
Sen. David Frockt, D-Seattle, said a number of states have passed similar legislation. He said Washington’s proposal would grandfather in legally owned assault weapons.

So, does that mean that if you already own an AR, then if this ban passes you can still go out shooting your AR?  Wouldn't talk of this make sales skyrocket?  Wouldn't this be a great time to go by an AR or two to get ahead of the ban?

Say you already have a firearm with a high cap magazine and they ban the mags.  Are they simply banning the sale or do you then need to plug the magazine so that you are limited to 10 rounds?   :dunno:
The bill isn't even written yet, its a concept.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 07, 2016, 12:06:38 PM
If passed, would depend on the language. 

If written to just ban future sales, no.

If written to ban all ownership and no provision for those already legally purchased and possesed, then yes, if found with one not meeting the requirements, could be charged, taken, whatever, again, depending on how it is worded.

And sadly, this is not going to go away.  Sooner, probably than later, they will tire of spinning their wheels and it will be written up and put on the ballot for public vote, just like baiting & hounds was for bear... We all know how that will turn out!!

Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 07, 2016, 12:08:07 PM
From the article:
Quote
Sen. David Frockt, D-Seattle, said a number of states have passed similar legislation. He said Washington’s proposal would grandfather in legally owned assault weapons.

So, does that mean that if you already own an AR, then if this ban passes you can still go out shooting your AR?  Wouldn't talk of this make sales skyrocket?  Wouldn't this be a great time to go by an AR or two to get ahead of the ban?

Say you already have a firearm with a high cap magazine and they ban the mags.  Are they simply banning the sale or do you then need to plug the magazine so that you are limited to 10 rounds?   :dunno:
The bill isn't even written yet, its a concept.


. . . which means to me that the dems trotted out a safe seat to propose something that probably has little chance of passing, but they want to agitate the low-info, gun-hating rubes to vote or continue to vote dem this November.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 07, 2016, 12:09:30 PM
Must be trolling for Bloomberg, Hanauer or Allen campaign contributions.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: timberfaller on September 07, 2016, 12:10:39 PM
Testing the waters!!!

Checking to see if the "lazy" gun owning VOTERS are still out there!! :bash:

I-594 all over again :yike: :bash:  THEY Hope anyways!
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bigtex on September 07, 2016, 12:15:32 PM
And sadly, this is not going to go away.  Sooner, probably than later, they will tire of spinning their wheels and it will be written up and put on the ballot for public vote, just like baiting & hounds was for bear... We all know how that will turn out!!
:yeah:
Even with a Democrat majority in both the Senate & House I don't think it would pass, unless they had a wide majority. There are a few Democrat legislators in WA with some conservative views on firearms and don't vote with Ds on firearm issues.

But if this goes on the ballot as an initiative, it's a done deal.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: timberfaller on September 07, 2016, 12:37:57 PM
Take the time to Contact the AG'S office!!

IT will only take you a couple of minutes!!   

I just did,   IF you can post here on HW,  contacting his office is even simpler!!

Besides, HE is your elected official!!   Tell him what you think!
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: cumminsbassguy on September 07, 2016, 12:40:59 PM
Yeaaaaa, it's going to work just like it has every where else including Chicago
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: lamrith on September 07, 2016, 01:26:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/KOMONews/posts/1160703077331356

Is a poll running on KOMO FB page..
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Becky on September 07, 2016, 06:55:34 PM
From the article:
Quote
Sen. David Frockt, D-Seattle, said a number of states have passed similar legislation. He said Washington’s proposal would grandfather in legally owned assault weapons.

So, does that mean that if you already own an AR, then if this ban passes you can still go out shooting your AR?  Wouldn't talk of this make sales skyrocket?  Wouldn't this be a great time to go by an AR or two to get ahead of the ban?

Say you already have a firearm with a high cap magazine and they ban the mags.  Are they simply banning the sale or do you then need to plug the magazine so that you are limited to 10 rounds?   :dunno:
Yes. Yes. Yes (before prices skyrocket because we're all doing the same). None of the news reporting sites have specified on the mags yet being grandfathered or not but my guess is NO.... I gave all mine away that were over 10 round ct  :'(

Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: TVHunts on September 07, 2016, 07:15:22 PM
Take the time to Contact the AG'S office!!

IT will only take you a couple of minutes!!   

I just did,   IF you can post here on HW,  contacting his office is even simpler!!

Besides, HE is your elected official!!   Tell him what you think!


Agreed, flood the AG's office!   I just sent him a message.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Hi-Liter on September 08, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: konradcountry on September 08, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
And sadly, this is not going to go away.  Sooner, probably than later, they will tire of spinning their wheels and it will be written up and put on the ballot for public vote, just like baiting & hounds was for bear... We all know how that will turn out!!
:yeah:
Even with a Democrat majority in both the Senate & House I don't think it would pass, unless they had a wide majority. There are a few Democrat legislators in WA with some conservative views on firearms and don't vote with Ds on firearm issues.

But if this goes on the ballot as an initiative, it's a done deal.

They'll go ballot because they will have no problem getting funding from Bloomberg.

The libs and ex-Californians will vote for it. They couldn't stay in their own mess of a state.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: cooltimber on September 08, 2016, 10:09:32 PM
you know it's coming ,pay attention. And vote
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: csaaphill on September 08, 2016, 10:48:28 PM
my guess is if they use grandfathered language then more likely this time. don't like it though. Language as to banned and have to be turned in etc... Then more likely not, but who knows. Just hope we have our voice out there to stop it.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Dave Workman on September 09, 2016, 08:06:24 AM
If passed, would depend on the language. 

If written to just ban future sales, no.

If written to ban all ownership and no provision for those already legally purchased and possesed, then yes, if found with one not meeting the requirements, could be charged, taken, whatever, again, depending on how it is worded.

And sadly, this is not going to go away.  Sooner, probably than later, they will tire of spinning their wheels and it will be written up and put on the ballot for public vote, just like baiting & hounds was for bear... We all know how that will turn out!!

Are you saying "yes" to a ban that affects everyone and criminalizes those already owned by people?  You think that's okay?
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: huntrights on September 09, 2016, 08:32:07 AM
TAKE ACTION

"Please contact Attorney General Bob Ferguson and voice your disappointment that he would call for legislation that would do nothing to prevent crime and only place undue burden on law-abiding gun owners.  You can contact AG Ferguson by calling (360) 753-6200 or by emailing him here." (https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler/ago/ContactForm.aspx)

"Encourage your friends, family and fellow gun owners to do the same." 

Thank you

NRA-ILA ALERT

"Washington: Anti-Gun AG Promises Firearm and Magazine Ban Legislation Next Year"
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2016

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160908/washington-anti-gun-ag-promises-firearm-and-magazine-ban-legislation-next-year
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Crunchy on September 09, 2016, 08:44:18 AM
Maybe the AG can give us some examples of how well I-594 has worked since it passed..  Hasn't changed a thing and I do not know of anyone that has been charged using 594 language.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bearpaw on September 09, 2016, 08:48:16 AM
We'll see what happens with this years election for state legislature. Right now the Republican controlled "majority caucus" controls the Senate. But if the Democrats regain control of the state Senate who knows what will happen. Although I personally think a voter initiative for this matter would have a higher likelihood of passing then a bill in the legislature. :twocents:

 :yeah: I agree
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Dave Workman on September 09, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
This Opinion Poll Spells Trouble for Gun Ban Proposal
It’s not just FBI Uniform Crime Report data that goes against the narrative launched earlier this week by Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson in his push for a ban on so-called “assault weapons,” public reaction is decidedly negative.

http://libertyparkpress.com/this-opinion-poll-spells-trouble-for-gun-ban-proposal/
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bearpaw on September 09, 2016, 11:00:42 AM
Hopefully it will cost him the election! That might send a message!
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: bigtex on September 09, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Hopefully it will cost him the election! That might send a message!
It won't. He's practically running unopposed.
Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 09, 2016, 11:51:50 AM
If passed, would depend on the language. 

If written to just ban future sales, no.

If written to ban all ownership and no provision for those already legally purchased and possesed, then yes, if found with one not meeting the requirements, could be charged, taken, whatever, again, depending on how it is worded.

And sadly, this is not going to go away.  Sooner, probably than later, they will tire of spinning their wheels and it will be written up and put on the ballot for public vote, just like baiting & hounds was for bear... We all know how that will turn out!!

Are you saying "yes" to a ban that affects everyone and criminalizes those already owned by people?  You think that's okay?


Absolutly not! 

Please reread the entire text of my post, not just the piece you highlighted!!

Was attempting to answer a question posted prior (bolded and underlined in the following qouted reply to the same question I was answering):

From the article:
Quote
Sen. David Frockt, D-Seattle, said a number of states have passed similar legislation. He said Washington’s proposal would grandfather in legally owned assault weapons.

So, does that mean that if you already own an AR, then if this ban passes you can still go out shooting your AR?  Wouldn't talk of this make sales skyrocket?  Wouldn't this be a great time to go by an AR or two to get ahead of the ban?

Say you already have a firearm with a high cap magazine and they ban the mags.  Are they simply banning the sale or do you then need to plug the magazine so that you are limited to 10 rounds?   :dunno:

Yes. Yes. Yes (before prices skyrocket because we're all doing the same). None of the news reporting sites have specified on the mags yet being grandfathered or not but my guess is NO.... I gave all mine away that were over 10 round ct  :'(




Calm down and please refer any future questions via PM if you do not understand something that I have written, no reason to clog the thread needlessly.

I will be happy to try and explain anything you do not understand.

Title: Re: Washington attorney general proposes assault-weapons ban
Post by: konradcountry on September 09, 2016, 11:43:52 PM
This Opinion Poll Spells Trouble for Gun Ban Proposal
It’s not just FBI Uniform Crime Report data that goes against the narrative launched earlier this week by Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson in his push for a ban on so-called “assault weapons,” public reaction is decidedly negative.

http://libertyparkpress.com/this-opinion-poll-spells-trouble-for-gun-ban-proposal/

Yea but that's the online public reaction.

There are plenty of King County libs that will vote for this even if they don't understand what it is for.

Bloomberg will fund it. Be sure to post this link in any MSM forum where Bloomberg funded proposals are being discussed. 
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/johannes-paulsen/bloomberg-moves-to-squelch-comments-on-disarming-minorities/
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