Post by: yelp on February 09, 2009, 12:26:34 PM
The governors website states...."More than 50 boards will be eliminated immediately by executive order.
Another 100 will be repealed through legislation, some as of June 30, 2009, and others by June 30, 2010".
http://www.nwcn.com/topstories/stories/NW_020909WAB-gregoire-govt-reform-SW.357dfdfb.html
http://www.governor.wa.gov/priorities/reform/decisions_boardsandcomm.pdf
Post by: colockumelk on February 09, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 09, 2009, 02:02:07 PM
Post by: colockumelk on February 09, 2009, 02:09:20 PM
Post by: sportsman002001 on February 09, 2009, 04:36:42 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 09, 2009, 05:39:55 PM
Did you read in the news section (First link) possibly merging WDFW officers into the state partrol. What will have to our enforcement officers? I could see this one coming when they closed down the Shelton training academy a couple of weeks ago. Utilize our Fish and Wildlife officers to patrol the Highways and not take care of fish and wildlife issues.
Probably something Wildlife Agents have wanted for a long time.......comes with a better retirement system, and shorter time required ...20 yrs if I remember right. WA's already have police powers to issue tickets on non-wildlife issues. We'll be like Oregon.....not sure if that's good or bad.
As far as the Commission......I used to always favor the Commission format....until Jeff Koneig came along. Now I completely oppose the Commission system as it has been just as bureaucratic as the agency. At least with a Governor's pick you have a 50/50 chance of getting someone who might do something. Elected like the head of DNR is best way to go. :dunno:
Post by: yelp on February 09, 2009, 06:01:08 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on February 09, 2009, 06:14:53 PM
Post by: colockumelk on February 10, 2009, 10:11:50 AM
Post by: 12Gauge on February 10, 2009, 10:51:30 AM
Did you read in the news section (First link) possibly merging WDFW officers into the state partrol. What will have to our enforcement officers? I could see this one coming when they closed down the Shelton training academy a couple of weeks ago. Utilize our Fish and Wildlife officers to patrol the Highways and not take care of fish and wildlife issues.
I read the same thing in the paper this morning about the WDFW officers merging with State Patrol. I asked a question to the WDFW last week concerning this issue and I pointed out that if the WDFW is reduced or suspended and no one to run it, what will become of the hunting and fishing in the state, the reply was not clear. It is a possibility the hunting and fishing regs maybe delayed in coming out this year or may not come out at all. Hmmm! i hope not.
I guess our government do not count the sales taxes that hunters and fisherman contribute to the state revenue.
Is our Governor that stupid? I suppose she is just taking NObama's lead.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 10, 2009, 12:21:06 PM
Post by: colockumelk on February 10, 2009, 01:04:10 PM
Post by: 300bullelk on February 10, 2009, 07:07:06 PM
Post by: AlpineMuley on February 10, 2009, 07:19:43 PM
Post by: colockumelk on February 10, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
Clockumelk, your killin' me :chuckle:
That's my job. :)
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 11, 2009, 05:21:28 AM
If we get lucky this year with all of Gregoire's mergers, we might end up with the hearing impaired and retirement community running the regulations. :yike:
We already do. She doesn't listen to what our wishes are, and looks like 100 miles of bad road. :chuckle:
Post by: colockumelk on February 11, 2009, 08:39:33 AM
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Post by: jeepasaurusrex on February 11, 2009, 08:43:07 AM
Post by: runamuk on February 11, 2009, 11:01:02 AM
Admit it you'd hit it.
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dude that is so wrong :puke: :puke:
Post by: gadwall on February 11, 2009, 01:35:41 PM
Post by: yelp on February 11, 2009, 01:54:47 PM
I agree with yelp. It might be good if the citizens of WA could elect the director but I think King and Pierce counties would have the most influence thus it could go the way of bear baiting and hound hunting.
Welcome gadwall.
Post by: colockumelk on February 11, 2009, 02:39:07 PM
Admit it you'd hit it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2Fwpeab.jpg&hash=c20438bdd1e7fa1959467e52f6b21794170b330d)
dude that is so wrong :puke: :puke:
Admit it you laughed. :chuckle:
Post by: 12Gauge on February 11, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
Admit it you'd hit it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2Fwpeab.jpg&hash=c20438bdd1e7fa1959467e52f6b21794170b330d)
Not even with your pole. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I used to work for the State, with ESD & DOP. Met her, man, you can drive a truck through those nostrils.
Post by: yelp on February 11, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Post by: GOcougsHunter on February 11, 2009, 10:15:44 PM
Remember that the appointed WDFW director during the bear baiting/hound hunting fiasco was vehmently opposed to the statewide vote and putting wildlife policy decisions in the hands of a very uninformed public. If the director was seeking re-election during one of these "grass roots efforts" I promise he/she would not be on the side of logic.
Do not let the commisioner ever be an elected position.
Post by: colockumelk on February 11, 2009, 10:24:05 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 12, 2009, 07:30:30 AM
"At least with an appointed (and non-partisan) position, we are more than likely to get someone in the position who may actually have a PhD in a wildlife science rather than some politico who looks good on TV."
The PHD's in that agency are part of the problem........they're still live in academia. They don't know how to relate to the average sportman. The previous director is only one example......all he ever did before he came here was to write 19 research papers on salmon related issues. That was in a 15-20 stint with Alaska. Gee, that left a lot of time to interact with sportmen in the field during his career.....NOT!
The WDFW Commission was so taken by the salmon savior from the north, that they missed the fact that he was a dude management wise, as nothing on his experience showed anything along those lines. In fact I heard that the general public in one region in Alaska where he worked was ready to run him out of town.
Don't need any more of those type of selections...... :bash:
Post by: Gobble Gobble on February 12, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
Post by: fc2038 on February 12, 2009, 03:09:04 PM
I think only people who hunt/fish and buy licenses should be able to vote on who is in there. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: colockumelk on February 15, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Post by: elkangel on February 15, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
These are just some thoughts, to try and get more citizen involvement with the WDFW.
Post by: colockumelk on February 16, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
That is an awsome idea. That is the best idea I've heard in a long time. That way we'd have representation without the hippies and anti groups getting in the way. I think that would be an awsome idea.
Post by: FrankDown on February 16, 2009, 06:26:31 PM
Post by: elkangel on February 17, 2009, 10:26:27 PM
By communicating with email and web sights the 39 members can keep in touch with little to no expense.
Unless you don't think we could find one person per county that would be willing to serve for free?
Post by: Gobble Gobble on February 18, 2009, 08:01:45 AM
Post by: runamuk on February 18, 2009, 09:51:42 AM
They arent going to want to pay all those people.
Total thread jack here :chuckle: :chuckle: prepare for rant....OH and this is NOT directed to the above poster just to the statement ;)
I've served on boards and never was it paid I did it because I gave a *censored* about what was going on....
Why the hell is it always about the damn money... what happened to this country that people no longer want to serve on boards and commissions etc because they CARE about this country.... ALL of the paid politicians should be working for the good of the country and working for the people... a big fat pay cut and freeze might change the way this game is played >:( >:( I see no reason for these 100k+ paychecks.....plus all the perks.... give em 25,000 a year plus the cost of actual travel by normal modes..... >:( >:( >:( off to soak my head in a bucket of cold water
Post by: Gobble Gobble on February 18, 2009, 06:28:30 PM
A department of the people, by the people, for the people [insert American Flan icon]