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Title: Custom Ammo
Post by: fliesitdies on September 20, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
Looking for info on custom reloading companies. I do not do any reloading, and getting tired of spending $$$ trying to find factory ammo that works in my 300wsm. It will be used for hunting from deer to moose.  Any help and opinion's would be great.

Thank You
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: JoeE on September 20, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
I'm interested in this topic too. I'm not ready to jump into reloading yet.,
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 20, 2016, 11:21:47 AM
Find/make a friend that reloads.  You'll probably spend just as much or more on custom ammo as factory.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: JLR on September 20, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Copper Creek is one of the best at custom reloads.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: DaveMonti on September 20, 2016, 12:43:22 PM
I reload and wouldn't mind some elk meat.  I'm in Snohomish.  All I would need is dies for your caliber and the components. 
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: KNOPHISH on September 20, 2016, 01:06:19 PM
The cheap blue box Federal work well in mine & they kill stuff  :chuckle:, also the Fusion but don't remember the price of those.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 20, 2016, 04:04:27 PM
I doubt that going to a custom reloader is gonna do much for ya over factory ammo and it absolutely is gonna cost you a bunch more then buying factory ammo.  What are your issues right now?  Group size?  What rifle do you have.  Very rarely are gun issues related to factory ammo.  Is gun's barrel fouled?  Scope loose or broken? 
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: Special T on September 23, 2016, 04:20:30 PM
I know a guy in Sedro Woolley that does custom load work ups for your rifle.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2016, 04:39:06 PM
I doubt that going to a custom reloader is gonna do much for ya over factory ammo and it absolutely is gonna cost you a bunch more then buying factory ammo.  What are your issues right now?  Group size?  What rifle do you have.  Very rarely are gun issues related to factory ammo.  Is gun's barrel fouled?  Scope loose or broken? 

No offense, but I disagree.
Not saying issues aren't caused by the things you mentioned, but if you really want to take your shooting "to the next level", custom/handloaded ammo is one of the necessary steps.

.02
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: JustinC on September 23, 2016, 05:19:19 PM
I doubt that going to a custom reloader is gonna do much for ya over factory ammo and it absolutely is gonna cost you a bunch more then buying factory ammo.  What are your issues right now?  Group size?  What rifle do you have.  Very rarely are gun issues related to factory ammo.  Is gun's barrel fouled?  Scope loose or broken?

I don't understand this thinking at all. Handloading is absolutly the way to go if you want to get the most out of your rifle.

To the OP, I just tested some ABM Ammo for them and was really impressed with it. It may be a decent option if you can't find a custom reloader to meet your needs.

Here is a link to my testing. http://www.rokslide.com/forums/long-range-hunting/48566-abm-300-win-ammo-review.html

Mods let me know if this isn't ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: G.R.K on September 23, 2016, 08:26:06 PM
http://www.superiorammo.com/
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 23, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
 He said nothing about getting most out of rifle or taking to next level.  He said something that "works" with out spending a bunch of money which makes me think something else is up. I agree hand loads are going to improve accuracy but it isn't going to take a gun that is messed up and make it shoot dimes.  Been loading for over 25 years so I know the benefits.  But not without a lot of work in making a load that is perfected for the gun. Which is gonna make it expensive if someone else is doing it for you.  Most firearms will shoot 1 to 2 MOA with factory ammo. 
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
My perception is the same as buzz.

OP if your looking to shoot cheaper than custom ammo is not what you want. Once that perfect load is found then it will be a bit cheaper than premium ammo but working up a load can be spendy, some times ya get lucky but often times your down 40-60 rounds working up a load.
If your looking to improve grouping and constancy then custom load will do that.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: jackelope on September 24, 2016, 02:09:01 PM
2moa doesn't "work" for me.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: jay.sharkbait on September 24, 2016, 02:32:42 PM
I doubt that going to a custom reloader is gonna do much for ya over factory ammo and it absolutely is gonna cost you a bunch more then buying factory ammo.  What are your issues right now?  Group size?  What rifle do you have.  Very rarely are gun issues related to factory ammo.  Is gun's barrel fouled?  Scope loose or broken?

I don't understand this thinking at all. Handloading is absolutly the way to go if you want to get the most out of your rifle.

To the OP, I just tested some ABM Ammo for them and was really impressed with it. It may be a decent option if you can't find a custom reloader to meet your needs.

Here is a link to my testing. http://www.rokslide.com/forums/long-range-hunting/48566-abm-300-win-ammo-review.html

Mods let me know if this isn't ok. Thanks.


I'll second the ABM stuff.


Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: kentrek on September 24, 2016, 02:44:03 PM
2moa doesn't "work" for me.

You'd be surprised how many people consider that good enough....probably the majority of hunters

Not much difference between a 300 yards shot on a 2moa rifle compared to a 6 yard shot on a 1 moa rifle...which seems to be the advertised standard of accuracy these days

I prefer under .5 moan personally
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: yorketransport on September 24, 2016, 02:48:09 PM


I'll second the ABM stuff.




Looks like somebody went dumpster diving behind the ABM plant.  :chuckle:

2moa doesn't "work" for me.

You'd be surprised how many people consider that good enough....probably the majority of hunters

Not much difference between a 300 yards shot on a 2moa rifle compared to a 6 yard shot on a 1 moa rifle...which seems to be the advertisedge standard of accuracy these days

I prefer under .5 moan personally

I think a lot of hunters would be lucky to shoot 2 MOA with a .5 MOA rifle at 100 yards.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo Updated
Post by: fliesitdies on September 24, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
Thank You All for your response, So here is my situation I shoot a Rem. 700 XCR 2 in 300 wsm with a nice Leupold on it bought it new and did the proper break in I was shooting Rem. Scirocco 180g they were great grouped very well at 100,200yd. I ran out of that ammo and found out they do not make it anymore !!!!!! So in looking at ammo and getting input from other's I bought 1 box of Barnes Tipped TSX 165g the Bolt on my rifle was VERY HARD to open after firing about 1/2 the box was like this and it makes me just a little nervous / uneasy here is the kicker they grouped just as good as the Scirocco  ammo. I did look into custom ammo but it is Very Expensive and  I really do not shoot a lot but when I do I want to shoot very well and with confidence in my ammo and abilities. So after that long story what factory ammo do you guy's use and or recommend ? I am looking at trying the Nosler Trophy Grade 180g accubond .
Thanks for your input
Fliesitdies
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
Buy a variety of ammo and see what works best, or buy a reloading kit and never look back
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: skinzner on September 24, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
Heres some nosler at a much nicer price than the store, i have ordered quite a few boxes of this and it shoots really good out of my gun, i can never find anything that looks blemished when i inspect the ammo. This is noslers outlet store
http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-trophy-grade-300-wsm-180-grain-accubond-ammunition-blem-20ct.html
Title: Re: Custom Ammo
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 24, 2016, 09:59:14 PM
That new Nosler stuff looks pretty good but I reload everything so don't know.  I would hope that all of the companies "premium" options are very consistent but finding one that gives acceptable to you groups out of your gun may take a few trial and errors.
Title: Re: Custom Ammo Updated
Post by: 300rum on September 25, 2016, 07:59:47 AM
Buy a few boxes of premium ammo from various manufacturers.  Once you find something that works buy the same lot by the case.  Factory ammo is very good stuff now days, for instance, I was able to get great hits at 750 yards on a .308 AR-10 that I built with Federal 175gr GMM.  I had just finished building the rifle and wanted to see what it would do so I bought a case of GMM before I worked up a load.  Since then I have worked up a load and it is better but not by much. 

The days of buying a box of ammo before you go are long gone.  Find something off the shelf (that your particular rifle likes) and buy a ton of it, enough for the life of the rifle.   


Thank You All for your response, So here is my situation I shoot a Rem. 700 XCR 2 in 300 wsm with a nice Leupold on it bought it new and did the proper break in I was shooting Rem. Scirocco 180g they were great grouped very well at 100,200yd. I ran out of that ammo and found out they do not make it anymore !!!!!! So in looking at ammo and getting input from other's I bought 1 box of Barnes Tipped TSX 165g the Bolt on my rifle was VERY HARD to open after firing about 1/2 the box was like this and it makes me just a little nervous / uneasy here is the kicker they grouped just as good as the Scirocco  ammo. I did look into custom ammo but it is Very Expensive and  I really do not shoot a lot but when I do I want to shoot very well and with confidence in my ammo and abilities. So after that long story what factory ammo do you guy's use and or recommend ? I am looking at trying the Nosler Trophy Grade 180g accubond .
Thanks for your input
Fliesitdies
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