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Title: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 17, 2016, 07:38:52 PM
Has anyone been seeing any rut activity yet? I did see a couple small Doug fir trees with rubs on them and a hunting buddy said one of our spots was rubbed up good. Anyone seeing bucks moving on main trails on cams and acting rutty yet?

Pre rut should be kicking in heavy the next week or so. How is this the first dedicated BT rut thread?!?!

Interested to hear what everyone has been seeing.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: pd on October 17, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
Bowman, my go-to hunting scout told me yesterday that he is starting to see rubbed trees.  I have not seen anything myself, but have not been out much recently.  I think it is still early, but anytime now, it should start.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Old Man Yager on October 17, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
We saw a couple rubs Sat, some of the pictures people have posted look like they got some swollen necks
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Vo2max on October 17, 2016, 07:55:09 PM
Does are kicking their yearlings to the curb as we speak and that, to me, tells that the rut is about to being. No runs where I hunt yet but soon enough you'll see many trees thrashed as well as bucks dogging does aggressively and flat out "being dumb."
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: wt on October 17, 2016, 08:28:30 PM
I've seen some rubs in one of my spots.  :hello:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: redi on October 17, 2016, 08:38:13 PM
I have seen quite a few rubs in several areas. A friend watched a 3x4 follow does all day in a private field and video taped the buck breed a doe this evening. The buck completely ignored the guys watching.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JakeLand on October 17, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
The blacktail I shot was shredding trees
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on October 17, 2016, 08:44:41 PM
They're rutting. Got this guy this morning. Stinks and neck is swollen
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JakeLand on October 17, 2016, 08:46:50 PM
 :drool: nice buck
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 17, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
DaveMonti has a nice four-point hangin' out in his driveway. (See thread).

I'd like to claim this was my early estrous/mini-rut predicted for a week ago.   I missed the date mark just like I miss my shots at deer.

Nothing moving in Ryderwood, but then there never is.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 17, 2016, 09:31:54 PM
No signs of rut where i have been.  Seen a few spikes and does all by themselves

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on October 17, 2016, 09:59:41 PM
Yep beave, like every other year....
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 17, 2016, 11:13:17 PM
Hmmm....... behave?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: go4itlab on October 17, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Starting to get going in the lows of Whatcom county. Wife said she seen 2 nice bucks chasing does in the neighbors pasture the last couple days and I had a really thick neck BIG TOAD 4x step in front of me this morning around 5 o'clock on the Mt Baker Hwy while on my way home from work. He was lucky as it was my 7th 12hr night shift in a row so I was in auto pilot on the drive home, He had the look in his eyes, didn't even care about anything other than a hot doe. Dam near got hit,  the 1 ton mega cab dually would've made a mess of him.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 18, 2016, 03:47:14 AM
Does are kicking their yearlings to the curb as we speak and that, to me, tells that the rut is about to being. No runs where I hunt yet but soon enough you'll see many trees thrashed as well as bucks dogging does aggressively and flat out "being dumb."

Same here regarding the fawns being kicked out.  Nothing much else though.  I think it was real close last weekend, but not quite in it yet.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: tonymoe on October 18, 2016, 06:45:57 AM
Saturday I passed on a small 3pt. At 15 yds  That was tearing the hell out of some sapling.
His right side was shaped like a knife blade.

Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: tonymoe on October 18, 2016, 06:47:06 AM
Sorry for sideways pic,  :dunno:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: sirmissalot on October 18, 2016, 07:19:09 AM
I've been going back and forth on it, there is definitely some pre rut going on and this great fall weather we've been having has started what I'm thinking could just be a false rut, we are seeing smaller bucks really trying hard to get the rut going, but I watched one chase does all night and two of the does were still letting fawns nurse which tells me they were a ways from estrus. I am seeing and hearing of some lone does and fawns though which is a great sign. Chances are though its going to end up being just like every year, young bucks start cruising now and pestering does, usually getting shot by me because I just can't say no and the last couple days of the season the big bucks belly up to the bar and handle business
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Dr. Death on October 18, 2016, 07:23:28 AM
I've seen 3 bucks now chasing does, 1 was BIG, 1 was med and 1 spike.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: SeatoSummit88 on October 18, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
My hunting partner has been out every day; he has constantly seen Does/ some with fawns; and a couple spikes.  There are areas he said that have minimal traces of dominate bucks; and a couple areas with high traffic movement and rubs coming from large bucks.  If we can keep the weather holding cold and wet; I would expect by the last week of the season they should start becoming more predominant.  I have always been with someone who has killed or killed myself; a buck right near/on my birthday (27th).  At least where we go; that seems to the be the 2/3 day window of love; so we see more movement.

 :twocents:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 18, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
I had 3 forks in my yard together every day until last Saturday. The biggest of the 3 is the only one left coming into my apple orchard now. I think he may have run the other 2 off to stake a claim to the dozen or so does coming in off and on. I did see one of the small bucks sniff a does fresh pee and lip curl about a week ago and watched all 3 bucks sparing a week or so ago as well but no chasing or following at all yet. All the does still have there yearlings in tow and I watched one trying to nurse sunday. I dont think the rut is on yet but seems like things are ramping up. Maybe another week or so  :dunno:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 18, 2016, 09:07:32 AM
Looks like most of the small bucks are falling in love way too early. Most of the doe's I've seen are still nursing fawns and are not acting receptive at all. Couple weeks the big guys will show up when the actual rut starts.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fastcrazyhurt on October 18, 2016, 12:23:15 PM
last night had a black tail grunting in the thick stuff about 15 yards from me. he was a big buck but wouldn't give me a good shot. he was swollen and grunting away as he was walking towards me he was in the open for a few seconds before getting behind a bunch of trees and brush where i could only see a piece of his body. wish i had 10 minutes more of light. I believe he was looking for the does that hang there everyday i walked the trail he was on a little and it was rubbed on huck bushes and trees and he smelled big time. I think the rut is early this year.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 18, 2016, 10:55:50 PM
        I was still hunting through reprod up in Kitsap today to get to the spot where I shot my buck last year.  Suddenly a small alder is getting thrashed back behind me.  I creeped back and put my scope on a cute little spike that was likely killing his first tree. I left him to his work.  Absolutely nothing else moved for the next five hours.  Maybe this moon is keeping down till dark?  It doesn't help that last light is still very light out                   
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Eric M on October 18, 2016, 11:22:04 PM
        I was still hunting through reprod up in Kitsap today to get to the spot where I shot my buck last year.  Suddenly a small alder is getting thrashed back behind me.  I creeped back and put my scope on a cute little spike that was likely killing his first tree. I left him to his work.  Absolutely nothing else moved for the next five hours.  Maybe this moon is keeping down till dark?  It doesn't help that last light is still very light out                   
https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/usa/seattle
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: redi on October 18, 2016, 11:33:20 PM
A buddy watched a nice 2 point chase a doe around for half an hour tonight. Seeing more rubs everyday.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 19, 2016, 07:42:18 PM
Seemed to be more rubs and chasing type tracks this morning.  Nothing walked in front of my camera though. The elk came through my stand this morning. They hung out for 35 minutes or so before I let a calf see enough of me to get nervous. They sauntered off before smelling me which is what I wanted.

I'll be after a buck pretty heavy this weekend.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 19, 2016, 09:57:46 PM
I've never seen does chase the fawns off here any time during the rut.

We've had trees rubbed for a week or more. My son's yearling fork's rear leg glands he got Saturday was starting to smell rutty but was not neck swollen. I'm saving those for my wife's archery hunt, they'll be good scent attractants. If you know someone who shot one that smells, get those glands and make a necklace....😁

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 19, 2016, 11:05:16 PM
On my property, the does leave the kids at home and go to some sleazy hotel on the other side of the saddle to do the dirty deed.  The fawns run around like psycho kids without mamma close by.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 20, 2016, 06:58:27 AM
Had the big forky at my house on video dogging a doe yesterday morning.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Wacenturion on October 20, 2016, 10:00:07 AM
Earlier today in my neighborhood, just down the street from me . :tup:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Chesapeake on October 20, 2016, 02:26:34 PM
First buck on camera with his nose up a does rear was on the 18th this year. Was on the 23rd last year and close to the same other years. SW Washington, 500 foot elevation or so.

Maybe a week earlier than I normally see.



Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 20, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
7 hours in the woods in 506.  Three does, two with fawns, one doing normal doe things.  Other than a cute little button buck, no bucks out and about.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Eric M on October 20, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
Found some new rubs today. Looks like smaller bucks did them.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 20, 2016, 08:08:56 PM
Found my first rubs of the season tonight.  3 seperate sets of doe pairs on the road on my bike ride back to the truck.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 20, 2016, 08:43:09 PM
Theres always a couple early ones but we all know that the last 4 days are better that the first week and a half of season

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: BoneCollector1 on October 20, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
I saw a stud of a 3x3 today out in the wide open with 4 does. He kept smelling their arses. The does had no interest yet though as they kept skirting away from him.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 20, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
Theres always a couple early ones but we all know that the last 4 days are better that the first week and a half of season

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We know, but we're like little children waiting for Christmas Eve.  We can hardly contain the excitement!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on October 20, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Theres always a couple early ones but we all know that the last 4 days are better that the first week and a half of season

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Uhhhh ya, saw 30 or so tonight, quite a few forks and spikes, no rut activity...  like me usual. I really think late buck is gonna be stellar this year!! Surely late oct will be too early... grin
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: BLR 243 on October 20, 2016, 09:55:39 PM
My north pasture 2 point was doggin my doe for an hour this morning, she was urinating a lot and he was lip curling, fun to watch.Neck stretched out low to the ground bird dogging her.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 21, 2016, 08:38:16 AM
5 does in my yard last night and this morning. I have had 5 different bucks on camera this week and nothing with the does last night or today  :dunno:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: beav1980 on October 21, 2016, 01:12:19 PM
More does this morning, with no buck in sight.  The 3 little bucks ive seen so far have been by themselves.  Vacation starts Monday for me 😀  cant wait for the couple last days in October!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 21, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
More does this morning, with no buck in sight.  The 3 little bucks ive seen so far have been by themselves.  Vacation starts Monday for me 😀  cant wait for the couple last days in October!

Mocasin Joe sells blacktail Doe Estrous urine.  Some times I will put a few drops where the doe herds feed to make any buck who happens by during the night think that it's game time.  Just a couple drops.  My reasoning being that if they think that does are starting to come into estrous they will start to up their game and will be checking out the places the does feed more often. 

By Halloween, you won't need to do this.  The does will almost all be in at that time. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Eric M on October 21, 2016, 06:02:44 PM
Out again today at a different spot. There are all kinds of new rubs.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 21, 2016, 06:25:45 PM
Starting to see some small rubs and scrapes, nothing too aggressive though.

Saw a truck load of doe today and not a single buck anywhere to be seen. The deer activity seems normal for the time of year. Expect to see some pre rut stuff next week.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: SeaRun1 on October 21, 2016, 06:30:24 PM
We watch our deer very closely so we can succeed.  In the last week rubs and scrapes have appeared like crazy.  Rut should be about on time for the first week of November as usual.

Glad I have a rut tag.

SR1
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 21, 2016, 08:00:46 PM
We watch our deer very closely so we can succeed.  In the last week rubs and scrapes have appeared like crazy.  Rut should be about on time for the first week of November as usual.

Glad I have a rut tag.

SR1

I would say the pre-rut is starting to kick in for sure now. Pre-rut seems to be happening a little earlier every year. Maybe the rut will start and end next week during general modern. I'd be out hunting NOW if I had your post-rut tag  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 21, 2016, 08:37:56 PM
It seems that the weather has the younger bucks confused. Almost all the doe with fawns are still nursing and are acting very normal. I've also seen a couple groups of decent size bucks hanging out together, not acting the least not concerned about the ladies.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 21, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
 :yeah:  A good freeze would go a long ways in getting them more active and getting the leaves off the brush. 

If you believe in lunar calendars and rut predictions, then the peak of the rut will be nearly a week later than last year, at least for WTs.  We'll see how that carries over to the late BT buck season in November.  If it does, it could be a stellar year. 

One thing is certain, telemetric deer studies showed that deer were more active around the third quarter moon than at any other time (outside the rut).  October's third quarter is------- tomorrow!  Good luck everyone!  (I'm going to kids sporting events!  >:()
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 22, 2016, 05:59:28 AM
Went out last night and just before last light a doe came around the corner, spotted me and stopped. A few minutes later she decided I was OK as she walked to the other side of the road and started feeding right near a big rub. Then she spooked and ran towards me then into the bushes. Just then a buck came trotting around the corner grunting at her and followed her into the bushes. Was pretty cool to see. Too dark to see his head gear. Even though it was only like 30 yards
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 22, 2016, 06:57:27 AM
8 deer in the yard right now. 7 does and yearling 1 long horned spike. All just feeding no rut action out of the spike at all.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: bugs n bones on October 22, 2016, 07:02:10 AM
I saw  Rut activity yesterday out of a Boone and Crockett class buck with two does
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: highside74 on October 22, 2016, 11:30:52 AM
We are in Kitsap area. Rubs everywhere. My son had a shot a beautiful 3 point last night that was locked down on a doe. My is 12 and it was his first real encounter with a buck like that. He was 166 yards for almost 10 minutes with no shot because of a stump. Then he came closer to 109 yards. My son pulled the trigger and the gun went click instead of boom.  :yike: the buck covered 150 yards going away un no time after that. On  our walk in he was swatting at a bug and his bolt almost fully opened. I slid it foward and locked it back down. I'm wondering if that affected the firing pin maybe not being fully engaged or something. The gun has never given us one misfire. He took it well. Saw a great 2x this morning by himself at 100 downwind and moving with no shot. Next year I will need to get a multi season tag I think.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 22, 2016, 01:26:53 PM
Sounds like the MF tag is going to get notched.  Why pay the extra dollars for a MS?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: highside74 on October 22, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
Sounds like the MF tag is going to get notched.  Why pay the extra dollars for a MS?

So I can shoot one too. Lol I haven't hunted deer outside archery season in 15 years
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Old Man8383 on October 22, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
Found the first blacktailed deer rut rub week before season opened this year.  Older bucks come into rut early and really don't go out of rut as long as does continue to come into estrus or recycle up until they drop their antlers; which is caused by a drop in testosterone. Late developing yearlings or does in poor condition often come in heat in Dec and January.  Early fawns on very good feed can also come into heat late in the season and breed before they're yearlings.  This can prolong the rut in local areas.   I've found dropped antlers as early as Dec 17 with blacktailed deer in the South Cascades. Watched a number of large bucks chasing yearling does early last Feb in Ocean Shores.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: singleshot12 on October 22, 2016, 03:02:11 PM
Quote from: Old Man8383 link=topic=203016.msg2699988#msg2699988 date=1477170al444
Found the first blacktailed deer rut rub week before season opened this year.  Older bucks come into rut early and really don't go out of rut as long as does continue to come into estrus or recycle up until they drop their antlers; which is caused by a drop in testosterone. Late developing yearlings or does in poor condition often come in heat in Dec and January.  Early fawns on very good feed can also come into heat late in the season and breed before they're yearlings.  This can prolong the rut in local areas.   I've found dropped antlers as early as Dec 17 with blacktailed deer in the South Cascades. Watched a number of large bucks chasing yearling does early last Feb in Ocean Shores.

 :yeah: Global Warming
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 22, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
Found the first blacktailed deer rut rub week before season opened this year.  Older bucks come into rut early and really don't go out of rut as long as does continue to come into estrus or recycle up until they drop their antlers; which is caused by a drop in testosterone. Late developing yearlings or does in poor condition often come in heat in Dec and January.  Early fawns on very good feed can also come into heat late in the season and breed before they're yearlings.  This can prolong the rut in local areas.   I've found dropped antlers as early as Dec 17 with blacktailed deer in the South Cascades. Watched a number of large bucks chasing yearling does early last Feb in Ocean Shores.

I've been finding fresh rub activity since early September.  I check known rub trees though.  I have found a lot of thees that I didn't already know from past seasons during archery season too. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DaveMonti on October 22, 2016, 04:33:24 PM
The does around the house have not had any visitors.  No sign of rut at my place in Snohomish. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: hillbillyhunting on October 22, 2016, 05:44:02 PM
I havent been out much because i have a late tag, but my brother has seen around 55 blacktail does since the begining of rifle season... not a single buck...
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 22, 2016, 07:54:09 PM
I've been out for 2.5 days, have seen over 50 deer. Only one of those was a buck and he was a small two point, my fiancé was close to punching her tag on him but he was a little too quick. A buddy of mine shot a nice two point and it was hanging with a couple smaller bucks and no does. Have the last 5 days of the season off, hoping for the best!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: xwizard50 on October 22, 2016, 08:23:45 PM
Got,a nice 2 point this morning, had a doe with it. Took to the butcher, they told me that they have gotten several bucks that were in rut. They also said that this has been a record year so far for them as for as deer are concerned.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 22, 2016, 08:49:16 PM
Still dead, nothing moving, no fun   >:(
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lamrith on October 23, 2016, 02:09:13 PM
Still dead, nothing moving, no fun   >:(
Same here fishnfur.  3 days out we have seen 1 deer and that was 260yrd+ and head was in trees with no way to ID and no real way to get over closer without busting it out.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 23, 2016, 02:40:58 PM
I'm not a BT expert for sure but isn't the general thoughts on BT rut timing as follows; early NOV - pre rut, mid NOV - peak rut, and end of NOV post rut?  Just asking for personal education ;)
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 23, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
I'm not a BT expert for sure but isn't the general thoughts on BT rut timing as follows; early NOV - pre rut, mid NOV - peak rut, and end of NOV post rut?  Just asking for personal education ;)

Hopefully it works that way this year. This late tag is burning a hole in my pocket.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 23, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
I'm not a BT expert for sure but isn't the general thoughts on BT rut timing as follows; early NOV - pre rut, mid NOV - peak rut, and end of NOV post rut?  Just asking for personal education ;)

Seems to be a week or two earlier than that. Pre-rut usually starts the second, 3rd or last week of October. What I would call the "rut" would be first 10 days of November. Sometimes pre-rut seems to be better than the actual rut given big buck trail cam activity. Usually by beginning of late rifle things are really starting to slow down and everything after that seems to be very hit and miss. Pockets of short activity. I've seen some pre rut sign in some areas and not so much in others.

Out now so we'll see what happens!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: bobcat on October 23, 2016, 04:31:33 PM
In my experience the peak is the second week of November. That is based on the use of trail cameras. After about the 14th of November, buck activity drops to practically nothing.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 23, 2016, 05:15:21 PM
I agree with the last two posts too.  Also, there are pockets of activity during the pre-rut when a few of does will enter early estrous and get the bucks running around.  If you're in the right place at the right time, you'd think you were in the peak of the rut - bucks acting stupid right out in the open.  That is why you hear many reports of the rut going strong from one hunter when many others are seeing nothing. 

As October progresses, more and more does enter their first estrous, during which they are only fertile for one day, so that by Halloween, most of the good bucks are now up and cruising.   By the peak of the rut, generally accepted to be in the second week of November (but can vary by a few days either way), you have a mix of does  in their first estrous (the majority of does) along with some of the does who were not successfully bred in October starting a second estrous period around or just following that time. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 23, 2016, 07:01:20 PM
In my experience the peak is the second week of November. That is based on the use of trail cameras. After about the 14th of November, buck activity drops to practically nothing.

I would say my trail cam photos over the past 5 or so years would agree with this. About end of second week or beginning of third week of November big bucks seem to stop cruising main trails. I get more mature bucks on camera 3rd week in October than 3rd week in November. I've found that if I don't have a buck killed (archery during modern with multi season) by end of general modern than it's a true war of atrition trying to kill a mature buck. I've struggled bad in late archery.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: h20hunter on October 23, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
Spike bt thatvwas dropped yesterday was chasing.  Doe was not interested. Should be turning on.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 23, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
In my experience the peak is the second week of November. That is based on the use of trail cameras. After about the 14th of November, buck activity drops to practically nothing.

I would say my trail cam photos over the past 5 or so years would agree with this. About end of second week or beginning of third week of November big bucks seem to stop cruising main trails. I get more mature bucks on camera 3rd week in October than 3rd week in November. I've found that if I don't have a buck killed (archery during modern with multi season) by end of general modern than it's a true war of atrition trying to kill a mature buck. I've struggled bad in late archery.

I've seen that during the second week of November, most big bucks aren't cruising anymore and are locked down with the does that are about to come into estrus.  The only cruising they are doing is right on the tails of those does.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 23, 2016, 09:46:10 PM
In my experience the peak is the second week of November. That is based on the use of trail cameras. After about the 14th of November, buck activity drops to practically nothing.

I would say my trail cam photos over the past 5 or so years would agree with this. About end of second week or beginning of third week of November big bucks seem to stop cruising main trails. I get more mature bucks on camera 3rd week in October than 3rd week in November. I've found that if I don't have a buck killed (archery during modern with multi season) by end of general modern than it's a true war of atrition trying to kill a mature buck. I've struggled bad in late archery.

I've seen that during the second week of November, most big bucks aren't cruising anymore and are locked down with the does that are about to come into estrus.  The only cruising they are doing is right on the tails of those does.

I've had the same horrible luck during late archery season.  All hope should not be lost though.  I got my buck on the 18th of Nov. last year.  He ran out of the bush at last light to meet a doe in the middle of a clearcut who was out there waiting for him.  The peak of the rut is pretty much over at that point, but there are still some does around that are ready to breed.  Also, there is a number of does that will hit a second or third estrous usually in the first week or so of December.  They may cycle through estrous, every 20 - 28 days, up to five or more times, continuing until impregnated - sometimes into February/March.  (Just like human women, some does have trouble conceiving.)   As the season gets later and colder though, deer activity wanes quickly due to the enormous amount of energy lost being up and moving during the lean winter months.  Hunting gets tough.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Eric M on October 23, 2016, 10:02:29 PM
In my experience the peak is the second week of November. That is based on the use of trail cameras. After about the 14th of November, buck activity drops to practically nothing.

I would say my trail cam photos over the past 5 or so years would agree with this. About end of second week or beginning of third week of November big bucks seem to stop cruising main trails. I get more mature bucks on camera 3rd week in October than 3rd week in November. I've found that if I don't have a buck killed (archery during modern with multi season) by end of general modern than it's a true war of atrition trying to kill a mature buck. I've struggled bad in late archery.

I've seen that during the second week of November, most big bucks aren't cruising anymore and are locked down with the does that are about to come into estrus.  The only cruising they are doing is right on the tails of those does.

I've had the same horrible luck during late archery season.  All hope should not be lost though.  I got my buck on the 18th of Nov. last year.  He ran out of the bush at last light to meet a doe in the middle of a clearcut who was out there waiting for him.  The peak of the rut is pretty much over at that point, but there are still some does around that are ready to breed.  Also, there is a number of does that will hit a second or third estrous usually in the first week or so of December.  They may cycle through estrous, every 20 - 28 days, up to five or more times, continuing until impregnated - sometimes into February/March.  (Just like human women, some does have trouble conceiving.)   As the season gets later and colder though, deer activity wanes quickly due to the enormous amount of energy lost being up and moving during the lean winter months.  Hunting gets tough.
Sometimes I'm surprised by just how late. Saw a doe with twin fawns first week of October still had their spots. I couldn't believe how small they still were.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 23, 2016, 11:14:23 PM
I've seen similar - a tiny fawn during late buck.  They generally won't make it through the winter born late.  No body fat to last through the winter.  It might just kill the mother trying to nurse a fawn through a cold winter too.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 24, 2016, 09:20:17 AM
Just sit on the doe's and eventually a buck will show. 

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: sirmissalot on October 24, 2016, 10:13:00 AM
I think my false rut theory was right, things have really slowed here but mostly just with deer movement in general. This week should be getting good though. You guys with the late tags are gonna hit it spot on
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 24, 2016, 10:19:02 AM
Just sit on the doe's and eventually a buck will show. 

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That's a fact Jack!   
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 24, 2016, 10:24:55 AM
Just sit on the doe's and eventually a buck will show. 

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That's a fact Jack!

I haven't even been able to find does until after dark
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 24, 2016, 10:40:34 AM
Just sit on the doe's and eventually a buck will show. 

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That's a fact Jack!

I haven't even been able to find does until after dark

I had pretty good luck in Archery and ML season getting does and spikes to come in between sundown and the end of legal shooting light. 

I never sit in a blind or on a stand that I don't assume that there is not a mature buck or two that is hanging out just inside the brush line watching for a while before they will come in.   My thoughts on mature bucks is that the way they got to be mature bucks is by being cowards who hang back and watch as smaller bucks take a bullet for them.  Once the rut gets underway solid they are not going to hang back and let some punk two point breed a potential doe.   
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 24, 2016, 10:46:39 AM
From this morning..watching this little guy for half hour


Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 24, 2016, 05:13:17 PM
Last two hunts:  Four hours in timber, eight hours on the edges of cuts.....  Still no movement (thought I heard one cruising, but no visual).  Does are in total hiding; bucks seemingly bedded and uninterested.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: The100Road on October 24, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
Last two hunts:  Four hours in timber, eight hours on the edges of cuts.....  Still no movement (thought I heard one cruising, but no visual).  Does are in total hiding; bucks seemingly bedded and uninterested.
:yeah:

On Wednesday it seemed like I seen deer around every corner and passed up five small bucks in one evening. The last two days I have not seen a single deer. What is going on? :dunno:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Ebell on October 24, 2016, 05:59:46 PM
Found 3 new rubs on Sunday that weren't there the previous Saturday but no deer seen in my portion of the 448. Weather was too nice.  Do have a new rub in the driveway though.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 24, 2016, 06:08:37 PM
Had one of my archery targets taken out by a bully buck... Poor foam deer was just hanging out by a tree waiting for me to play with it and got hammered!!! Still shootable, just has some new big holes in it!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 24, 2016, 06:27:11 PM
I've been out the last 3 days and have seen 58 deer and 6 bucks...we got 3 of them and most were chasing does
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 24, 2016, 07:07:55 PM
JD Hasty i think you are mistaking! Im  not talking sitting in a blind or stand.  What i mean is if u find a cut holding doe's sit there and glass them for a while.  If there are regulars a buck will come to breed them. 

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 24, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
JD Hasty i think you are mistaking! Im  not talking sitting in a blind or stand.  What i mean is if u find a cut holding doe's sit there and glass them for a while.  If there are regulars a buck will come to breed them. 

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I think you are right.  Once the does are in estrous and receptive the bucks will come right out to them much more often.   
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 24, 2016, 09:02:55 PM
My buddy just dropped his buck off at my place that he got today. He said it was hot on a doe and doing a little sparring with a smaller buck! It's an absolute stud buck!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 24, 2016, 10:01:08 PM
 :yeah:  He's got some serious mass going on, huh?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 24, 2016, 10:21:21 PM
I've been out the last 3 days and have seen 58 deer and 6 bucks...we got 3 of them and most were chasing does

I need to switch areas. I'll sometimes not see a deer all day. It takes like years to see 58..
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 24, 2016, 11:24:14 PM
I've been out the last 3 days and have seen 58 deer and 6 bucks...we got 3 of them and most were chasing does

I need to switch areas. I'll sometimes not see a deer all day. It takes like years to see 58..

Just one of the many reasons Blacktail are so frustrating.  Many deer in one spot, almost none in the next.  I'm pretty sure almost all of Ryderwood falls into the latter category.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 24, 2016, 11:39:53 PM
 I went out with my brother on saturday. We saw saw 7 deer, 2 bucks 5 does. I watched a big 3x3 following a doe.
Sunday we brought a friend of mine with us. He ended up shooting his first deer. He shot what would have been a nice 3 point, but the deers left antler was broke off about 1inch above his head. This buck was by himself.
 Today, me and my kid were out all day. It was pretty slow. We didnt see any deer until the last hour of light. He had 4 doe in front of him, and I had 4 doe,  and a small buck. We watched them until it was dark.
 I don't think the "rut" is starting sooner than normal. We're just getting a good streak of weather. The rest of the season should be pretty good....I wish I still had a tag in my pocket. :)
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JakeLand on October 24, 2016, 11:44:37 PM
Ya that   :bash:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 24, 2016, 11:51:30 PM
Jake, are you working tomorrow?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 25, 2016, 04:36:21 AM
I've been out the last 3 days and have seen 58 deer and 6 bucks...we got 3 of them and most were chasing does

I need to switch areas. I'll sometimes not see a deer all day. It takes like years to see 58..

Just one of the many reasons Blacktail are so frustrating.  Many deer in one spot, almost none in the next.  I'm pretty sure almost all of Ryderwood falls into the latter category.

This about sums it up....find those little pockets with lots of does and wait...the spot we got the 2 on Sunday we seen 12 deer in the first hour on one hillside
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: steeliedrew on October 25, 2016, 05:35:37 AM
Seen bomber of a forky sporting a swollen neck this morning in Mukilteo. He was hanging around a few Doe.  :tup:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: bknilvr00 on October 25, 2016, 07:53:29 AM
Wife shot her spike in the 448 on saturday. He was following a doe with intent, but she was more annoyed than anything. I think if you can find the does, you'll find the bucks.

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lamrith on October 25, 2016, 10:31:21 AM
I've been out the last 3 days and have seen 58 deer and 6 bucks...we got 3 of them and most were chasing does

I need to switch areas. I'll sometimes not see a deer all day. It takes like years to see 58..

Just one of the many reasons Blacktail are so frustrating.  Many deer in one spot, almost none in the next.  I'm pretty sure almost all of Ryderwood falls into the latter category.
That is problem I have been having too.  Last year the spot I have been hunting this year was loaded with does, and tons of sign every time I went in there(hunted archery late season).  This year I have seen one deer, and little to no sign.  The one I saw was much higher up in hills and 260yrds away hiding its head so no way to ID it.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 25, 2016, 11:58:09 AM
Found a little 2pt chasing a doe this morning.  His neck wasnt swollen but chasing

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 25, 2016, 12:01:54 PM
I think the warm weather is keeping most of the rut activity going at night.    My apple trees are a magnet for nocturnal does and bucks when the rut is going strong.  It seems to be some kind of a central location where they lay down scent for other deer  - kind of a meeting place.  Since the beginning of October, only one night of real activity has occurred.  That was the Oct. 18th.  I've got three years of vids of this buck.  He's not getting any better with age.  Crab claw 3 point.  Virtually no does on any night other than the sudden showing on the 18th - and they all appear pretty small compared to the buck.  Perhaps kids kicked out while the mom's are playing?

Other than that, for some reason, every year a young buck decides this same spot is where it will hang out every night, and sometimes during daylight, which is extremely rare around here.  This year, instead of a spike, it is a little button buck.  I'm not quite sure what the attraction is.  Perhaps they just feel left out of the action, so hang out to sniff out the action after the fact.  He's not big enough to get his photo here yet.

My point to all this is that it seems, at least down here and as of today, things are still very calm rutwise.
 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: redi on October 25, 2016, 12:48:08 PM
My buddy vide taped a narrow 4 point breed a doe again today. He taped the same buck breed a doe in the same orchard last week.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 25, 2016, 12:56:39 PM
Yard buck from yesterday morning. Rutting outside the bedroom window all night, kept the wife and I awake. Went outside at 7:15 with the rifle and my 2 year old and just a 2 point, spike and a couple of does. Went back in got ready for work walked back out and  :yike: he was pushing the forky around with 2 other bucks watching. The temptation was to great and I leave for Idaho tomorrow so I took him. As for the rut its started, at least in Snohomish county. I just saw another 4 point by Stanwood dogging a doe hard.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 25, 2016, 01:22:39 PM
Nice buck!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: coachcw on October 25, 2016, 01:40:50 PM
dang  :tup:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: ElevenBravo on October 25, 2016, 01:53:06 PM
Do you have a room for rent? Unique rack.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: shadowless_nite on October 25, 2016, 02:26:29 PM
Looks like they're starting to rut in 564... this yard buck was pushing 2 does around all morning before my daughter got a clear shot and dropped him. Neck wasnt too swole but he did stink. Couldn't be more proud of her and we couldn't be more thankful to our friend that let's us hunt his properties.

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On another note across the unit in a different area the 2 mature bucks have disappeared from my camera since beginning of last week. One was beginning to sniff tail as the does fed so I'm assuming they have begun cruising for doe in the area.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: anchoraly on October 25, 2016, 03:16:06 PM
@shadowless_nite Your daughter is freakin adorable!! And she got a nice buck. Way to raise em' right!!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 25, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
Good news!  Guess I should move north.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 25, 2016, 06:19:29 PM
They're definitely going now. Almost had to push a buck off the two track on the way out of my stand last night. A fork horn worked the timber in front of my stand this morning.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 25, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
I'm loosing my patience.  Something's going to get shot if it walks in front of me - I hope it's not a spike!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 180-GRAIN on October 25, 2016, 08:44:50 PM
Had a small forky dogging a doe in the yard tonight.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DaveMonti on October 25, 2016, 08:58:51 PM
My yard fawns are without their mother tonight.  I suppose she's out looking for love.  I saw them when I walked down the driveway to get the mail.  She was nowhere to be found while they stared at me from 20 feet, then ignored me and ate.  No worries!

I also saw the first rubs of the year on a few scrub saplings along the driveway.  They were not there the other night, so things are heating up around the homestead.  I suppose it will also be heating up out in my hunting grounds some miles away. 

As a wise and successful black tail hunter named Jake told me yesterday, "They are just starting to warm up". 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: FLIZZ on October 25, 2016, 09:10:43 PM
Today I saw all I need to see to tell me the rut is on. Had a monster 2 point pop out of the reprod in front of me today, nose to the ground. Grunting, walking erratically. 60 yards in front of me. Could have killed him with my eyes closed BUT....im one of those wierd guys that uses a custom recurve during rifle season. Needless to say I'm heart broken, but I chose the tradlife so I can only blame myself. I'm talking 17 tall 16 wide blacktail.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 25, 2016, 09:36:11 PM
 
My yard fawns are without their mother tonight.  I suppose she's out looking for love.  I saw them when I walked down the driveway to get the mail.  She was nowhere to be found while they stared at me from 20 feet, then ignored me and ate.  No worries!

I also saw the first rubs of the year on a few scrub saplings along the driveway.  They were not there the other night, so things are heating up around the homestead.  I suppose it will also be heating up out in my hunting grounds some miles away. 

As a wise and successful black tail hunter named Jake told me yesterday, "They are just starting to warm up".
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: The100Road on October 26, 2016, 01:08:35 PM
Any status update on this one today? This morning i've seen two moms with babies and passed on two spikes. Does not seem to be happening in my area. Unless I am just missing something.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 26, 2016, 03:02:38 PM
I saw a decent buck at 10:30 this morning with a doe.  Cant really see his horns cause he was so far out but rutted up big time! Ba k to back days ive seen bucks chasing doe's

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Mudman on October 26, 2016, 03:26:07 PM
It has started here.. Chasing does round the yard.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 26, 2016, 06:45:56 PM
I'm loosing my patience.  Something's going to get shot if it walks in front of me - I hope it's not a spike!  :chuckle:

 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 26, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
I videod a stud 3x4 following a doe. I spotted the doe first, and then the buck in a brand new clear cut at 150yds. They were working there way down to me in plain sight the whole time. There was a guy cutting firewood about 250yds down the road in sight of the deer also. They ended up walking past me at 30yds, right across the road, and into the timber. Thats when I got them on video. This all happened at noon.
 This would have never happened if I still had a tag :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Taco280AI on October 26, 2016, 08:37:09 PM
In CO the mulies aren't rutting yet. Saw three does with zero bucks around today while looking for elk. Passed by a bunch on private property, same deal.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 26, 2016, 10:14:55 PM
I videod a stud 3x4 following a doe. I spotted the doe first, and then the buck in a brand new clear cut at 150yds. They were working there way down to me in plain sight the whole time. There was a guy cutting firewood about 250yds down the road in sight of the deer also. They ended up walking past me at 30yds, right across the road, and into the timber. Thats when I got them on video. This all happened at noon.
 This would have never happened if I still had a tag :chuckle:

What?  Not going to post the video? 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 26, 2016, 10:26:17 PM
I need one of my kids to help me. Sorry
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 27, 2016, 04:51:56 AM
The seeking phase is definitely under way.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 27, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Glad I have the next 5 days off  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 27, 2016, 07:10:45 AM
The rut is in full swing in my neck of the woods. Watched to mature bucks have an epic battle yesterday. And all the while a little 2 point was on top of one of the does. After the battle was over, I noticed one of the 4 points G2 was missing. So I went down to the "fighting ring" to look for it. I never found it but the wasn't a standing piece of brush in a 30 yard circle. It was crazy to see how much ground the can destroy in a matter of minutes. After sleeping on it, if I see that buck again, he's giving up his ghost :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 27, 2016, 07:16:28 AM
For all you guys that are wondering why I didn't shoot then..... I'm waiting on a cool looking 7x5. He's got drop time on his left side. Unfortunately I missed him by 17 mins on Sunday :bash:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 27, 2016, 07:24:36 AM
I'd pass and let him grow up  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 27, 2016, 07:29:46 AM
For all you guys that are wondering why I didn't shoot then..... I'm waiting on a cool looking 7x5. He's got drop time on his left side. Unfortunately I missed him by 17 mins on Sunday :bash:

Got my fingers crossed for ya'.  I passed on a decent three point @ 20 yards during archery season for the same reason.  Hope ya' end up with a big taxidermy bill to pay.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 27, 2016, 08:06:36 AM
The rut is in full swing in my neck of the woods. Watched to mature bucks have an epic battle yesterday. And all the while a little 2 point was on top of one of the does. After the battle was over, I noticed one of the 4 points G2 was missing. So I went down to the "fighting ring" to look for it. I never found it but the wasn't a standing piece of brush in a 30 yard circle. It was crazy to see how much ground the can destroy in a matter of minutes. After sleeping on it, if I see that buck again, he's giving up his ghost :chuckle:

Can we be best friends for the next 4 days? I'm not seeing anything. I just wanna fill my freezer!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DaveMonti on October 27, 2016, 09:54:05 AM
Whiteknuckles, I see we live in the same neck of woods.  Keep us posted!
Dave
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 27, 2016, 10:10:50 AM
I am why your not using a Bushnell trail cam!!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: jackelope on October 27, 2016, 10:37:26 AM
My buddy sent me this pic yesterday of this truck in downtown Bellingham chasing a doe.

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: STRINGSHOOTER on October 27, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
My buddy sent me this pic yesterday of this truck in downtown Bellingham chasing a doe.

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that's a beefy boy, thick. They know how to tease us popping up where and when we can't get 'em
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 27, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
For all you guys that are wondering why I didn't shoot then..... I'm waiting on a cool looking 7x5. He's got drop time on his left side. Unfortunately I missed him by 17 mins on Sunday :bash:

Got my fingers crossed for ya'.  I passed on a decent three point @ 20 yards during archery season for the same reason.  Hope ya' end up with a big taxidermy bill to pay.

Thanks bro! Id love to put him on my wall. Good luck getting yours. Keep us posted ;)
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 27, 2016, 11:23:36 AM
I'd pass and let him grow up  :chuckle:
I have for the last 3 years. But his right side never looked like that. He might have got injured :dunno:. Either way, if I see him or the 6 point that was with him all summer. I'm shooting...... And praying I hit my mark :o
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Watimberghost on October 27, 2016, 11:48:04 AM
Good luck whitenuckles! That's a stud!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: CLARKTAR on October 27, 2016, 12:03:19 PM
For all you guys that are wondering why I didn't shoot then..... I'm waiting on a cool looking 7x5. He's got drop time on his left side. Unfortunately I missed him by 17 mins on Sunday :bash:
Damn!! Bruiser

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: WSU on October 27, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
The rut is going here in Olympia.  I hunted for about an hour today at the crack of 9 and had a buck in the brush chasing a doe in circles.  I couldn't get a shot in the vine maple and salmon berries but he was a nice branch antlered buck and hot on her rear.  There are rubs all over the place.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: PNWJimbo on October 27, 2016, 03:28:48 PM
The rut is in full swing in my neck of the woods. Watched to mature bucks have an epic battle yesterday. And all the while a little 2 point was on top of one of the does. After the battle was over, I noticed one of the 4 points G2 was missing. So I went down to the "fighting ring" to look for it. I never found it but the wasn't a standing piece of brush in a 30 yard circle. It was crazy to see how much ground the can destroy in a matter of minutes. After sleeping on it, if I see that buck again, he's giving up his ghost :chuckle:

That really must have been something to see  :yike:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DaveMonti on October 27, 2016, 03:31:31 PM
My buddy sent me this pic yesterday of this truck in downtown Bellingham chasing a doe.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161027%2F9f3d7684b23c45e0a7653abbff96d60a.jpg&hash=efb976e94f4049fef6fd33e95256c52ee4ec06f4)

that's a beefy boy, thick. They know how to tease us popping up where and when we can't get 'em

That's a tweaker disguised as a deer.  He is using the disguise to burglarize vehicles and is a threat to public safety.  Fire away. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 27, 2016, 04:11:06 PM
Passed up a couple nice young bucks this morning. They are starting to cruise, the rut seems to be on schedule for the first couple weeks of November.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 27, 2016, 06:03:50 PM
We tagged out. Kids on the 15th. Wives on the 23rd and mine yesterday.  After I shot the crab claw buck driving out a giant stood in the ditch and probably woulda let me shoot him. I went for the camera but battery was dead from filming my buck...  he was on does and looked to be 18" wide or so...  if my buck wast my biggest blacktail I'd be mad.  :chuckle: incentive to hold out on future hunts. I kinda figure a giant was about to walk out as soon as I notched my tag lol.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 27, 2016, 08:36:31 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 27, 2016, 08:41:49 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on October 27, 2016, 09:33:32 PM
That big buck was the fourth buck I had seen tending a doe. Full rut no, but extra stupid already yes.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 27, 2016, 09:53:59 PM
My son was woken up at 5:30 by two bucks fighting behind the house. Cruising around after shooting hours, we saw two spikes with their noses up doe's butts.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 27, 2016, 09:58:43 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

The back yard kitsap bucks are chasing does. The "wild" bucks are still really secluded. I've been out the last couple days in the rain and not much moving, but lots of sign and tons of rubs. Almost hit a big 4 pnt driving home tonight after dark. He was chasing a doe. One thing about kitsap, seems the last few years there are more backyard deer than huntable timber co. land deer.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 27, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
:chuckle:
a couple years ago I was having the samev kind of season your having. Id go out every chance I got, and stare into the brush till my eyes were bleeding. I'd come home at night, get on huntwa, and look at the blacktails taken that day. When I would see a buck it would have already seen me.
 Then, on the last day, and the last 10 minutes of my season, I smelled a nasty rutted up buck. It stopped me in my tracks. Just then, 3 deer took off up the hill to my right. 1 stopped and looked back at me. He ended up being my second biggest buck to date. Don't quit until its over. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2016, 12:06:59 AM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
:chuckle:
a couple years ago I was having the samev kind of season your having. Id go out every chance I got, and stare into the brush till my eyes were bleeding. I'd come home at night, get on huntwa, and look at the blacktails taken that day. When I would see a buck it would have already seen me.
 Then, on the last day, and the last 10 minutes of my season, I smelled a nasty rutted up buck. It stopped me in my tracks. Just then, 3 deer took off up the hill to my right. 1 stopped and looked back at me. He ended up being my second biggest buck to date. Don't quit until its over. :chuckle:

Thanks for the attitude check.  Watched a Steve Rinella show tonight where they were beat down in the rain In Alaska chasing Sitka's.  They were hating life.  I could totally relate. Been a long season already.  It get hard to justify spending time away from the loved ones for nothing.  I've been working my tail off on stand, hitting cuts, and still hunting in downpours for weeks.  It's getting old. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 28, 2016, 06:53:37 AM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
:chuckle:
a couple years ago I was having the samev kind of season your having. Id go out every chance I got, and stare into the brush till my eyes were bleeding. I'd come home at night, get on huntwa, and look at the blacktails taken that day. When I would see a buck it would have already seen me.
 Then, on the last day, and the last 10 minutes of my season, I smelled a nasty rutted up buck. It stopped me in my tracks. Just then, 3 deer took off up the hill to my right. 1 stopped and looked back at me. He ended up being my second biggest buck to date. Don't quit until its over. :chuckle:

Thanks for the attitude check.  Watched a Steve Rinella show tonight where they were beat down in the rain In Alaska chasing Sitka's.  They were hating life.  I could totally relate. Been a long season already. It get hard to justify spending time away from the loved ones for nothing.  I've been working my tail off on stand, hitting cuts, and still hunting in downpours for weeks.  It's getting old.

This is where you need to change your thinking....it's never for nothing...the fun is getting out and enjoying the outdoors....I haven't got a deer yet but have helped 3 people get their deer and that in itself is just as satisfying as getting one myself....I know when your out there in the piss down rain and not seeing anything it can be a downer but you got to look at the bright side, your spending time doing what you love to do no matter the outcome...a day in the woods is a successful day to me...keep your head up and your hard work and persistence will pay off  :tup:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 28, 2016, 07:54:40 AM
It's more than just being out in the woods for some people. Yea I love being out there and i get in my fair share throughout the year, but I'm not there to birdwatch. I have other things that also need tended to. I can go sit out in the wind and rain the other 54 weeks of the year but I only have 2 weeks to put meat in my freezer. It's not about a fancy wall hanger or "enjoying the outdoors" for some people.

Maybe I'm taking this too serious though
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 28, 2016, 08:28:47 AM
Maybe I'm taking this too serious though

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 28, 2016, 08:56:59 AM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
:chuckle:
a couple years ago I was having the samev kind of season your having. Id go out every chance I got, and stare into the brush till my eyes were bleeding. I'd come home at night, get on huntwa, and look at the blacktails taken that day. When I would see a buck it would have already seen me.
 Then, on the last day, and the last 10 minutes of my season, I smelled a nasty rutted up buck. It stopped me in my tracks. Just then, 3 deer took off up the hill to my right. 1 stopped and looked back at me. He ended up being my second biggest buck to date. Don't quit until its over. :chuckle:

Thanks for the attitude check.  Watched a Steve Rinella show tonight where they were beat down in the rain In Alaska chasing Sitka's.  They were hating life.  I could totally relate. Been a long season already.  It get hard to justify spending time away from the loved ones for nothing.  I've been working my tail off on stand, hitting cuts, and still hunting in downpours for weeks.  It's getting old.

I shot a common buck this year, about like the one I shot last year, but had what I consider a very successful season so far.  I learned a lot.  I was out a lot during archery and ML Seasons and the wife was getting kinda stompie foot.

I like to kill big bucks as well as the next guy, but I like to hunt them even more. If I had not been out so much early on I would have had a better chance, but I wanted to hunt with my bow a lot this year.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 28, 2016, 09:03:07 AM
For the prices we pay I WANNA PUT MEAT IN THE FREEZER!

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 28, 2016, 09:08:48 AM
For the prices we pay I WANNA PUT MEAT IN THE FREEZER!

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We end up giving surplus meat away every year, and filling my antler less tag as soon as the General Season made that tag valid is what I should have done and then I would still have a buck tag.  Sometimes, in hindsight,I don't make the best decisions.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lamrith on October 28, 2016, 10:23:35 AM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!
:chuckle:
a couple years ago I was having the samev kind of season your having. Id go out every chance I got, and stare into the brush till my eyes were bleeding. I'd come home at night, get on huntwa, and look at the blacktails taken that day. When I would see a buck it would have already seen me.
 Then, on the last day, and the last 10 minutes of my season, I smelled a nasty rutted up buck. It stopped me in my tracks. Just then, 3 deer took off up the hill to my right. 1 stopped and looked back at me. He ended up being my second biggest buck to date. Don't quit until its over. :chuckle:

Thanks for the attitude check.  Watched a Steve Rinella show tonight where they were beat down in the rain In Alaska chasing Sitka's.  They were hating life.  I could totally relate. Been a long season already.  It get hard to justify spending time away from the loved ones for nothing.  I've been working my tail off on stand, hitting cuts, and still hunting in downpours for weeks.  It's getting old.
I am right there with you, it has been a very frustrating year.  Thankfully while I did not get anything down, I had a very exciting elk season which lots of active elk almost daily.  Deer season, not so much I have seen ONE deer since modern season opened.  It is much more than being out there for some of us when it is hunting season, opportunities is what counts, even if we blow them.  We live in an incredible state in terms of being able to get out there into nature.  We do it these few weeks a year with a goal to fill the freezer.  Hell other times of the year are much more rewarding in terms of seeing and enjoying wildlife than a WA fall as the weather is better, the animals are relaxed and you do not have pumpkins walking by every 5-10minutes. :chuckle:

Someone mentioned they did not have one down, but had helped others.  I would take that any day as well, as much as I want my freezer full, at least being able to get into deer and help someone else would be better than how this year has been going.  At least in that situation you have some confirmation that they are there and you are doing it right.  This year the days on end seeing absolutely nothing has just been frustrating.  Last year the areas I am hunting were loaded with deer, and sign, this year all I want is to find a spike for my son to shoot and I might as well be hunting on the surface of the moon.  I am very much hoping that changes this weekend and the they are at least a little stirred up and moving.

One more weekend to git er done!  "Once more into the breech.."  Good luck all!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Molon5labe on October 28, 2016, 11:56:37 AM
What kind of activity you guys seeing today?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 28, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
I'd say your either an idiot or just don't know about deer. Just FYI, I harvested over 300 deer before the age of 15. I've seen about everything when it comes to deer hunting. For you to tell other people that the deer aren't in rut just proves that you don't know deer. My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000. I know that deer can be in full rut in one part of our land, and nothing in a different part not 5 miles away. It's all about the does and NO PERSON can tell you when a doe will go into her cycle. The deer on one part of my property ARE DEFINITELY in full rut!

 Now come back at me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Another FYI, the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have to many deer.

In conclusion, don't tell people that say their deer, in their area aren't in full rut. It just makes you look like an idiot!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on October 28, 2016, 12:34:48 PM
 :dunno: Based on Kodiaks pics in the past saying he doesn't know deer and using the "I" word certainly comes off as abrasive. Just saying.

If we could get a Websters definition of "full Rut" Then this may be worth arguing. But there is a lot of variations in definition of "full rut".
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: pope on October 28, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Whitenuckles

 My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000....... the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have too many deer.



Can I be your friend?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Angry Perch on October 28, 2016, 12:40:31 PM
[quote author=Whitenuckles link=topic=203016.msg2704849#msg2704849 date=1477682892

 My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000....... the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have too many deer.



Can I be your friend?
[/quote]

His only friends are Chuck Norris and the Dos Equis guy
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 28, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
I'd say your either an idiot or just don't know about deer. Just FYI, I harvested over 300 deer before the age of 15. I've seen about everything when it comes to deer hunting. For you to tell other people that the deer aren't in rut just proves that you don't know deer. My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000. I know that deer can be in full rut in one part of our land, and nothing in a different part not 5 miles away. It's all about the does and NO PERSON can tell you when a doe will go into her cycle. The deer on one part of my property ARE DEFINITELY in full rut!

 Now come back at me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Another FYI, the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have to many deer.

In conclusion, don't tell people that say their deer, in their area aren't in full rut. It just makes you look like an idiot!

Holy cow! It sounds like I made a bad mom joke or something.  There are several different stages of the rut as most everyone knows, the term "full rut" is a fairly broad stroke.
Different areas experience each stage of the rut at different times. Also, the blacktail rut is largely understudied and I seem to learn something new every year.
I only offer my observations as a contribution to the discussion. I'm not going to tell anyone what they do or don't know. congratulations on all of your success with your deer herd.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 28, 2016, 04:47:47 PM
I rattled in a buck for a member's son this morning, first time for me.  Then, when we were taking photos, another, bigger boy came out and started walking up the road toward us, at least until he got a good view of us....   8)
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 28, 2016, 08:03:20 PM
Not seeing much were I've been.  A youngster was still nursing off mom today and she didn't even think about kicking him away.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2016, 09:44:14 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
I'd say your either an idiot or just don't know about deer. Just FYI, I harvested over 300 deer before the age of 15. I've seen about everything when it comes to deer hunting. For you to tell other people that the deer aren't in rut just proves that you don't know deer. My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000. I know that deer can be in full rut in one part of our land, and nothing in a different part not 5 miles away. It's all about the does and NO PERSON can tell you when a doe will go into her cycle. The deer on one part of my property ARE DEFINITELY in full rut!

 Now come back at me and tell me I
don't know what I'm talking about. Another FYI, the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have to many deer.

In conclusion, don't tell people that say their deer, in their area aren't in full rut. It just makes you look like an idiot!

Idiot?  Hmmm,  Let me help you out:  the correct spelling is "too" when you say too many deer (instead of to many deer).  You crack me up!  Three hundred deer by age 15?  By any chance are you a Native American?  Chill dude!  Don't get your panties in a wad.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 28, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
300 deer by 15?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: jamesjett on October 28, 2016, 09:51:54 PM
I have been out three days this week.  Here is what I have seen/experienced.  I saw two different spikes in two different areas.  One was running right towards me and I was in about 4 miles no one else around.  He finally saw me and put the brakes on.  Then about 100 yards down I spotted a couple of does.  So I am thinking something or someone pushed that spike away from the does…There was no one else around and I didn't see any bucks around the does and they seem calm and let me pass without bounding off.

The other spike I saw was walking around by himself like it was lost or confused.  One spike was about 9 am and the other was about 2 pm.

So around 5:30 last night making my way back to the truck out hops a huge 2x2.  I have seen plenty of 2x2's but this one had forks about 16-18" high and he was out past his ears.  He had plenty of mass so I am thinking he was a mature buck that just happened to be a 2x2.  He was walking at a pretty good pace and had his nose the ground and leaves stuck on his right side.  He looked up and noticed me and hopped off the skid road into the clearcut to my right.  He stopped and I ranged him 62 yards.  The reason I didn't squeeze off on him is my truck and hunting partner was right behind him on the other side.  He did not care that I was watching him at all.  I watched him for about 10-12 mins before he turned and walked directly back at my truck and then hopped back into the jack fir.  He was neck was all swole up.

So its starting…went back today and nothing….quiet all day.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 28, 2016, 09:52:47 PM
probably talking whitetails.  In some of the southern states you can (or used to) shoot two does a day for a season that ran a few months.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2016, 10:01:13 PM
I rattled in a buck for a member's son this morning, first time for me.  Then, when we were taking photos, another, bigger boy came out and started walking up the road toward us, at least until he got a good view of us....   8)

Nice shot Loki!  Rattling in a buck is about as good as it gets when your hunting BT (except for shooting them shortly thereafter).  That one looks like a great deer for the islands.  I've had ZERO responses to rattling this year.  It's like the deer suddenly all caught on. 

Had a great day in the woods today, but still didn't see a thing.  Worked three different areas.  Stripped down to  just my T-shirt and rain gear.  Sixty-six degrees at home today.  Fifty-eight here in Mason. 

Heard five shots today.  Two this morning, somewhere along Hwy. 3 south of Allyn.  Two over on the Key Peninsula closer to dark - I was on the eastern edge of Harstene Island.  Two carcasses this morning at a gate close to here, fresh from last night I'm guessing.  Things seem to be picking up. 



 


 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2016, 10:06:35 PM
I have been out three days this week.  Here is what I have seen/experienced.  I saw two different spikes in two different areas.  One was running right towards me and I was in about 4 miles no one else around.  He finally saw me and put the brakes on.  Then about 100 yards down I spotted a couple of does.  So I am thinking something or someone pushed that spike away from the does…There was no one else around and I didn't see any bucks around the does and they seem calm and let me pass without bounding off.

The other spike I saw was walking around by himself like it was lost or confused.  One spike was about 9 am and the other was about 2 pm.

So around 5:30 last night making my way back to the truck out hops a huge 2x2.  I have seen plenty of 2x2's but this one had forks about 16-18" high and he was out past his ears.  He had plenty of mass so I am thinking he was a mature buck that just happened to be a 2x2.  He was walking at a pretty good pace and had his nose the ground and leaves stuck on his right side.  He looked up and noticed me and hopped off the skid road into the clearcut to my right.  He stopped and I ranged him 62 yards.  The reason I didn't squeeze off on him is my truck and hunting partner was right behind him on the other side.  He did not care that I was watching him at all.  I watched him for about 10-12 mins before he turned and walked directly back at my truck and then hopped back into the jack fir.  He was neck was all swole up.

So its starting…went back today and nothing….quiet all day.

Good thing your hunting partner didn't take a shot at him!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 28, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
I rattled in a buck for a member's son this morning, first time for me.  Then, when we were taking photos, another, bigger boy came out and started walking up the road toward us, at least until he got a good view of us....   8)

Nice shot Loki!  Rattling in a buck is about as good as it gets when your hunting BT (except for shooting them shortly thereafter).  That one looks like a great deer for the islands.  I've had ZERO responses to rattling this year.  It's like the deer suddenly all caught on. 



This was my first apparent success at rattling, and yeah the one in the pic was a really nice animal.  I know where I'll be hunting during archery season next year....   :)
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 28, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
Chill out whiteknuckles!

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2016, 11:12:24 PM
I rattled in a buck for a member's son this morning, first time for me.  Then, when we were taking photos, another, bigger boy came out and started walking up the road toward us, at least until he got a good view of us....   8)

Nice shot Loki!  Rattling in a buck is about as good as it gets when your hunting BT (except for shooting them shortly thereafter).  That one looks like a great deer for the islands.  I've had ZERO responses to rattling this year.  It's like the deer suddenly all caught on. 



This was my first apparent success at rattling, and yeah the one in the pic was a really nice animal.  I know where I'll be hunting during archery season next year....   :)

Gotta love them swimmers!   ;) :chuckle:    Was he as big as the buck you killed this year?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 29, 2016, 11:08:17 AM
Headed to Collector's Choice in Snohomish for breakfast just now, which if you never had I strongly suggest... Anyways, saw a STUD 4x5 ABSOLUTE MASHER just standing in a parking lot in Lake Stevens on the Machias Rd... I pulled in the parking lot of course, while the wife was jawing at me I was just speechless... His body seamed to stop at his ear. No neck at all...
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
We got another one today, a big spike, his back legs were stained almost to the hooves  He scooted by us at about 12 yards on a mission, head down.  I rattled just as he was hitting some heavier brush and he stopped in time for a shot.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 29, 2016, 11:41:24 AM
We got another one today, a big spike, his back legs were stained almost to the hooves  He scooted by us at about 12 yards on a mission, head down.  I rattled just as he was hitting some heavier brush and he stopped in time for a shot.

Good deal.  A Primos Can works for that maneuver too. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Axle on October 29, 2016, 12:41:32 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
I'd say your either an idiot or just don't know about deer. Just FYI, I harvested over 300 deer before the age of 15. I've seen about everything when it comes to deer hunting. For you to tell other people that the deer aren't in rut just proves that you don't know deer. My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000. I know that deer can be in full rut in one part of our land, and nothing in a different part not 5 miles away. It's all about the does and NO PERSON can tell you when a doe will go into her cycle. The deer on one part of my property ARE DEFINITELY in full rut!

 Now come back at me and tell me I
don't know what I'm talking about. Another FYI, the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have to many deer.

In conclusion, don't tell people that say their deer, in their area aren't in full rut. It just makes you look like an idiot!

Idiot?  Hmmm,  Let me help you out:  the correct spelling is "too" when you say too many deer (instead of to many deer).  You crack me up!  Three hundred deer by age 15?  By any chance are you a Native American?  Chill dude!  Don't get your panties in a wad.

Go easy on him Fish. A guy like that is living the dream. I mean - who wouldn't want to hunt and fish and skip school? I'm not saying he did but I sure wanted to!
Here's a short video of a famous hunter, trapper, and all-around guide who only spent one day in school. And just look at how successful he became!  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:


 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: AKBowman on October 29, 2016, 12:54:57 PM
Back onto the subject...just passed a small spike that cruised past my stand. He was definitely on the look out and covering ground.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Quackwhacker on October 29, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
Saw a nice buck on East Lake Sammamish Parkway last night. Just walking around like a lost dog, in and out of the road. Definitely looking for love.

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 04:44:07 PM
Just saw a nice 4X in Anacortes that was sticking pretty tightly to a doe.

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 29, 2016, 05:14:16 PM
Where's the pictures guys!?
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: WSU on October 29, 2016, 06:20:19 PM
Almost no activity today in a number of places her in oly.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 29, 2016, 06:23:40 PM
Where's the pictures guys!?

Ol' JD has a flip phone he barely knows how to turn on and when I finally figure it out and get a pic the thing looks like an ant. 

I am carrying my Panasonic LX3 now, and have seen some real Jim Dandies around Tacoma  last night after the narcotics wore off to where it was safe to drive.  Remember, I have a broken rib.  I am going to venture out tonight if the pain does not get to sharp. 

Here's a hint, the entire area is closed period, so let's not see a repeat of last year.  It's not a good scene to end up in handcuffs with an audience cheering on the LEO community.   

I'm going to try to get over to the islands in the evenings next month, just to shoot a few pictures.     
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 29, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
Where's the pictures guys!?

Ol' JD has a flip phone he barely knows how to turn on and when I finally figure it out and get a pic the thing looks like an ant. 

I am carrying my Panasonic LX3 now, and have seen some real Jim Dandies around Tacoma  last night after the narcotics wore off to where it was safe to drive.  Remember, I have a broken rib.  I am going to venture out tonight if the pain does not get to sharp. 

Here's a hint, the entire area is closed period, so let's not see a repeat of last year.  It's not a good scene to end up in handcuffs with an audience cheering on the LEO community.   

I'm going to try to get over to the islands in the evenings next month, just to shoot a few pictures.     
Lookin forward to the pics but take care of them ribs first  :tup:
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TheHunt on October 29, 2016, 08:31:17 PM
I saw two bucks in the dark this morning.  2X2 and 3X3 both of their necks were thin...   I am not sure the rut is here yet.  I think we need a good freeze to kick it off.   Now I am hoping it does not happen for a week or two.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Wingin it on October 29, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
Somebody smoked one with their truck early this morning on I-5 between Arlington and Stanwood. Looked like a pretty nice buck too. LE was on the scene so I hope the person or people in the vehicle came out of it alright.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: pope on October 29, 2016, 09:47:29 PM
Pretty mild this week and I'm not seeing rut activity in the Buckley/Enumclaw area. Waiting for colder temperatures.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: trophyhunt on October 29, 2016, 10:00:04 PM
Hunted all day in Hancock today on the kapowsin side, walk in unit.  Saw 3 does in the woods all alone and two does on the road on the way out, alone.  I haven't seen any sign of the rut. 
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: ElevenBravo on October 29, 2016, 10:04:51 PM
Hunted hard all day South East of Olympia. Nada. Does with fawns. Bucks hiding in the thick stuff. Found a bear. Practiced hunting into the wind. Crawling like a coyote. And worked on my range estimation. Still a good day.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 29, 2016, 10:10:59 PM
Hunted hard all day South East of Olympia. Nada. Does with fawns. Bucks hiding in the thick stuff. Found a bear. Practiced hunting into the wind. Crawling like a coyote. And worked on my range estimation. Still a good day.

The best thing is to keep in mind:  They saw you.  They were just inside the cover and you were busted.  That's what I always think when I don't have a big buck show his vitals.  My best "hunting" has been after I had used my General tag and had only a doe tag and was sitting there with a big buck, just back in cover, giving me the finger as the does were moving into their feeding areas.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: ElevenBravo on October 29, 2016, 10:17:51 PM
Hunted hard all day South East of Olympia. Nada. Does with fawns. Bucks hiding in the thick stuff. Found a bear. Practiced hunting into the wind. Crawling like a coyote. And worked on my range estimation. Still a good day.

The best thing is to keep in mind:  They saw you.  They were just inside the cover and you were busted.  That's what I always think when I don't have a big buck show his vitals.  My best "hunting" has been after I had used my General tag and had only a doe tag and was sitting there with a big buck, just back in cover, giving me the finger as the does were moving into their feeding areas.

I noticed some well worn trails paralleling the clear cuts. About 20yards in. I think its time to bring out the 'old 30-30 with iron sights. I still have yet to find any fresh rubs. I have spent a fair amount of time chasing trails in the timber.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Bronson on October 29, 2016, 11:22:22 PM
My buddy shot a nice buck this morning and he was swollen up and glands were working over time.  His buck was wandering out in the open at 10:45.  We saw 3 bucks this morning.  My buddy's, a nice mahogany rack buck even bigger than my hunting partners and a small 2pt.  The bigger buck had a doe with him and the little 2pt was following at a distance.  The buck my buddy shot had fresh cuts and scars on his face, neck and shoulder.  Assuming they were from fighting.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: redi on October 29, 2016, 11:28:17 PM
Yesterday we found a big 4x4 blacktail bedded in a 2 year old cut with a doe. There is rubs every where I go. Even saw where bucks were fighting on an old grade. Tomorrow and Monday will be awesome.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Turner89 on October 29, 2016, 11:36:21 PM
Today was the best day so far in my area. We saw 4 deer only today, but all 4 were bucks. 3 of the 4 were seen between 10am, and 12:30pm. My son shot one of them at 11am.
 They were roaming around looking for doe. I actually smelled the buck before we saw him.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: JDHasty on October 29, 2016, 11:58:30 PM
The blacktails are coming in right now.  If you can hunt tomorrow hunt.   YMMV, but they all are so close that to not hunt is a fool's errand.  The mature bucks will soon be making the rounds and soon means look under your stand to see if a mature buck is waiting to come out. Like I said, after I had burned my General Tag on a two point I have had to let a mature buck walk that was watching from ten yards away from my stand as I waited for does to come in first.   
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: 7mmfan on October 30, 2016, 07:35:55 AM
it was definitely on in our area yesterday. Saw 5 deer, 4 of which were bucks. Killed 2 of them. One VERY big mature buck that was pushing a doe around. Hopefully it will get posted.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 30, 2016, 09:13:59 AM
Pretty slow around here in Chehalis area.  Seen a few rubs but not much activity.  I have seen 1 small 2 pt chasing a doe but not swollen and another buck withva doe.  Ive seen 5 bucks so far 2 of which where in rut or just coming in.  The other 3 where not.  Buddy shot a buck yesterday no signs of rut either. 

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: klikboom on October 30, 2016, 10:27:26 AM
I found area with rubs and in the thick there are the deer beds. I tried rattling there then walked down the sort of dirt bike trail through timber, there was one absolutely thrashing a fern. Coming from different direction were a bunch of snorts. Don't know if they smelled me but they bailed into even thicker stuff. If it was bedded and I kicked it up will he abandon the bedding area?  Haven seen any in clearcuts since opener.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 30, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Just about all deer activity has been non existent the last 2 days...very few does and one small buck by itself
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 30, 2016, 10:53:29 PM
If it was bedded and I kicked it up will he abandon the bedding area?

Only the deer know.  They don't always bed in the same spot and they are on the move now too.  I would certainly go back and have a look.  Make sure you have the wind right.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 30, 2016, 11:06:37 PM
Yesterday we found a big 4x4 blacktail bedded in a 2 year old cut with a doe. There is rubs every where I go. Even saw where bucks were fighting on an old grade. Tomorrow and Monday will be awesome.

Centralia's hot and Chehalis is cold.  As they say in Real Estate/business: Location, location, location.

Took the morning off and went to my daughter's soccer match in Portland.  Watched the last quarter of the 'Hawks then hit the woods.  Still slow in Ryderwood (go figure) but did glass up a deer in an alder patch on a private cut.  I couldn't see it at all at 50 yards without glass, and couldn't tell what it was behind the big alders.  25 minutes later, I finally confirmed it was a doe, still standing motionless, and which it continued to do for about 45 minutes more.  I sit tight watching her until it was getting dark, still hoping for a visitor of the bucky type.  5:50 baby buck stands up next to mom and she gives him a bath.  Definitely not a hot doe.  Fog descends, time to go home.   Still no rutting activity that I can find.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fish vacuum on October 31, 2016, 01:42:11 AM
I've seen fresh rubs every day. A couple of spots had new rubs every time I went in there. But the bucks were hard to find. I did see one decent 3 point by himself in the timber but couldn't get a shot. Ran into a few groups of 2-3 does with no bucks.
A small 2 point stepped out in the open with two does today so i dropped him. Not stinky, no swollen neck.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: trophyhunt on October 31, 2016, 05:46:56 AM
I finally saw some rut activity one hour before dark yesterday, it was about a mile away and saw a deer chasing another deer.  But it was too far away to see antlers and I couldn't have got to them before dark.  Might have to call in sick today!!!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 31, 2016, 05:58:09 AM
Probably a couple does
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Dr. Death on October 31, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
Saw a stud 4pt yesterday with a doe, he was dumb as a box of rocks...Next year I guess I'd better buy a multi season tag..
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: lamrith on October 31, 2016, 11:07:55 AM
Yesterday we found a big 4x4 blacktail bedded in a 2 year old cut with a doe. There is rubs every where I go. Even saw where bucks were fighting on an old grade. Tomorrow and Monday will be awesome.

Centralia's hot and Chehalis is cold.  As they say in Real Estate/business: Location, location, location.

Took the morning off and went to my daughter's soccer match in Portland.  Watched the last quarter of the 'Hawks then hit the woods.  Still slow in Ryderwood (go figure) but did glass up a deer in an alder patch on a private cut.  I couldn't see it at all at 50 yards without glass, and couldn't tell what it was behind the big alders.  25 minutes later, I finally confirmed it was a doe, still standing motionless, and which it continued to do for about 45 minutes more.  I sit tight watching her until it was getting dark, still hoping for a visitor of the bucky type.  5:50 baby buck stands up next to mom and she gives him a bath.  Definitely not a hot doe.  Fog descends, time to go home.   Still no rutting activity that I can find.
Shelton has been cold too.  Not even seeing does, course with all the vehicle traffic it is no wonder.  Truck passing every clearcut every couple minutes, so they are just saying bedded in the timber until dark.
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 31, 2016, 03:04:17 PM
You are all full of poo!  I moved North because of the poor hunting SW. 

Kitsap/Key Peninsula today - absolute pouring rain, no hunters in the field, not one deer in 'hood.  Perfect habitat, fresh sign at every step.  No deer chasing, no deer cruising, no deer anywhere.   A single buck chasing a doe is not a rut in full swing.  This is pissin' me off!  Freekin Blacktail!

They are not in "full rut" yet. Guys see a buck trailing a doe and think full rut which isn't correct. Cruise and seek phase is just starting, total lockdown/stupidity phase isn't going to happen for a few weeks yet. Thank god for my late tag, they are gonna be cranked up come second week of November
I'd say your either an idiot or just don't know about deer. Just FYI, I harvested over 300 deer before the age of 15. I've seen about everything when it comes to deer hunting. For you to tell other people that the deer aren't in rut just proves that you don't know deer. My family owns 14,000 acres, yes 14,000. I know that deer can be in full rut in one part of our land, and nothing in a different part not 5 miles away. It's all about the does and NO PERSON can tell you when a doe will go into her cycle. The deer on one part of my property ARE DEFINITELY in full rut!

 Now come back at me and tell me I
don't know what I'm talking about. Another FYI, the state told use we have to take 350 does this year because we have to many deer.

In conclusion, don't tell people that say their deer, in their area aren't in full rut. It just makes you look like an idiot!

Idiot?  Hmmm,  Let me help you out:  the correct spelling is "too" when you say too many deer (instead of to many deer).  You crack me up!  Three hundred deer by age 15?  By any chance are you a Native American?  Chill dude!  Don't get your panties in a wad.

Not a native, my grandfather was Mafioso. He was forced to get rid of some money, lucky for me he bought 8+ in Louisiana 6- in Mississippi, all touching.
And yes, I wasn't lying, I harvested over 300 easy before 15.
Sorry about my grammer, I'm not very book smart. But I make up for it in the woods.
Yes, your right, I should chill out. I just don't like other people telling me I don't know when I see rut action. " Full  rut action".
Sorry if I offended anyone.


P.S. I've been in a tree since 6am. Have only seen 3 doe, a fawn,  spike, and a 3x2. I think the big boys are with the does now. I hope I just see a little 4 today :(
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 31, 2016, 04:08:04 PM
Im just curious how u kill easilly 300 before 15? What age did u start hunting? How many a year did u kill? Just doesnt add up?? If ubstarted hunting at the age of 8 that would be almost 43 deer/year?

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Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: fishnfur on October 31, 2016, 07:13:29 PM

Not a native, my grandfather was Mafioso. He was forced to get rid of some money, lucky for me he bought 8+ in Louisiana 6- in Mississippi, all touching.
And yes, I wasn't lying, I harvested over 300 easy before 15.
Sorry about my grammer, I'm not very book smart. But I make up for it in the woods.
Yes, your right, I should chill out. I just don't like other people telling me I don't know when I see rut action. " Full  rut action".
Sorry if I offended anyone.


P.S. I've been in a tree since 6am. Have only seen 3 doe, a fawn,  spike, and a 3x2. I think the big boys are with the does now. I hope I just see a little 4 today :(

No worries here.  I didn't intend to suggest that you didn't know what you were talking about. Hope you score a big one!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: Whitenuckles on October 31, 2016, 07:14:01 PM
Im just curious how u kill easilly 300 before 15? What age did u start hunting? How many a year did u kill? Just doesnt add up?? If ubstarted hunting at the age of 8 that would be almost 43 deer/year?

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The state required us to kill 350 does. That's not counting buck tags. We have 11 Hunters in our family........




You do the math!
Title: Re: Blacktail Rut
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 31, 2016, 07:35:47 PM
11 in the family wonder many the other 10 killed?  What did u do with the deer that alot of meat!

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