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Title: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on October 31, 2016, 11:56:06 PM
I will be going to Idaho next month to hunt the week before Thanksgiving. Just wrapped up my Washington seasons so now I'm in full throttle mode for Idaho. I've never hunted out of state before but studied the harvest stats which led me to 10A. Is the unit a zoo with other hunters in the middle of November? I will be focusing on the different chunks of state land and national forest since I haven't gotten permission to hunt anything private but I was thinking about buying a Potlatch permit possibly as well. Also, I was eyeing both Pierce or Headquarters as my camp so I'd probably focus on the areas around those towns, but I'm open for any suggestions since I really have no idea where to start :chuckle:. Am I on the right track here with starting around those areas? What is access like? Is it alll walk-in or can you drive in to the state and federal land and be in decent hunting? Any tips or additional thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm hoping I walk away from this year with a better understanding of the unit so that next year I can kick it into high gear, but obviously this years number 1 priority is still to fill my tag. I can trade elk wisdom in Central WA for anyone that may be inclined to help a guy out  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 01, 2016, 05:14:23 AM
 Get the permit! You are on the right track. Compared to WA, very few hunters.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 01, 2016, 05:17:10 AM
Hey good luck over there, shoot straight and keep the wind in your face!!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on November 01, 2016, 07:38:37 AM
I was there this weekend.  It was busy but not WA busy and you could get away from people if you wanted.  A lot of the people use ATV/Side by side to get behind gates.  We walked in behind some gates, saw lots of sign, several does and heard about a half dozen shots.  It's still elk season so some of the people we were seeing were probably elk hunters.  Lots of trailers out dry camping too.

I'm also working on learning the area.  The guy I was with has family in Pierce so he was showing me around some while we were hunting.  Lots of stuff accessible by driving up and walking in and lots of stuff accessible by ATV. 

He said that the family told him that someone had killed a good sized wolf in the area last week. 

Him and a couple of guys I work with say that in about 2-3 weeks things will get crazy.  Also if you can hit it about during the first snowfall is another great time.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2016, 07:45:17 AM
We will be staying in a hotel in pierce, be prepared for really cold weather if your dry camping. You are on the right track, I will pm you when I can, it's already going to be crowded over there.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 01, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Thanks for the replys everyone. I usually just hunt on foot but I can probably borrow a friends ATV if I need to. Would hauling the ATV over there really be worth it? Is there a map somewhere that shows which areas/roads are ATV/Walk-in only and which ones you can drive in with a truck?
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: REHJWA on November 01, 2016, 11:25:23 AM
Yes, I just got back from my trip and the atv  was nice to have. However I did not use it when I got my buck. Used it while scouting. The local forest service office will have free atv/ open roads maps.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: elkboy on November 01, 2016, 11:42:13 AM
Don't forget Idaho Department of Lands ground!  And bring a grunt call and antlers- great time to be out there is about November 10 up through Thanksgiving, especially with a bit of a skiff of snow on the ground. 
 
Good luck! 
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: elkslayer069 on November 01, 2016, 11:47:34 AM
Lots of atvs turns into a zoo the week you are going and the week of thanksgiving
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: MTMule on November 01, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
10a wasnt full of hunters late in November but by that time no deer were moving, including does because of the pressure. Saw two bucks cruising in 3 days and got one. Nothing special.

The permit is certainly worth it if you have an atv because 90% of it is atv only. Otherwise you're walking and someone could zip in behind you. But honestly I didn't see one truck parked at the many entries I saw.

Really not impressed with Idaho as some seem to be. You can kill any deer so the numbers are a little inflated. Washington is better for whitetail.

Saw more deer in unit 1, but way more hunters.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: MountainTracker on November 01, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
I just got my tag/Lic yesterday.  Sounds like you have a good plan for the area.  I've never had an atv over there, however, all of my friends do.  I typically see way more deer than they do.  My experience is guys just ride the roads.  They're nice to have for the drag out.  I typically work the thicker stuff.  If you haven't read the thread by 3Nails on rattling WT yet, then I would suggest doing so.  That thread alone has helped me increase my encounters over there.  Good luck.  Come on Nov 16th.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2016, 04:27:47 PM
can you repost 3nails thread please?  Sounds interesting
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: MountainTracker on November 01, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Here you go:   http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,101693.0.html
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2016, 04:45:37 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: HookedOnQuack on November 01, 2016, 06:31:01 PM
We will be staying in a hotel in pierce, be prepared for really cold weather if your dry camping. You are on the right track, I will pm you when I can, it's already going to be crowded over there.
When are you headed over trophy? My dad has been hunting the area for 20+ years and 2 years ago we bought a lot in town and built a cabin, so nice to be able to get back at night and shower and dry the clothes out quickly. I'll be headed over the 10th but man i hope the weather cools off by then. If you see a green chevy flag me down
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
We will be staying in a hotel in pierce, be prepared for really cold weather if your dry camping. You are on the right track, I will pm you when I can, it's already going to be crowded over there.
When are you headed over trophy? My dad has been hunting the area for 20+ years and 2 years ago we bought a lot in town and built a cabin, so nice to be able to get back at night and shower and dry the clothes out quickly. I'll be headed over the 10th but man i hope the weather cools off by then. If you see a green chevy flag me down
We are going over on the 16th-21st and staying at a hotel next to the big store.  Never stayed there before, it's so cheap I hope it has a floor!!!  :chuckle: you can't miss my lifted gmc silver truck w canopy. 
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: HookedOnQuack on November 01, 2016, 06:45:51 PM
I will be there til the 20th so I'll keep my eye out for ya. We are up above the gas station by the military school
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2016, 06:49:13 PM
10-4
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: WA hunter14 on November 01, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
I live here so if anyone needs a hand packing anything out let me know! im always up for a hike
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: RC3 on November 01, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
I'll be there the 13th staying at The Pioneer.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: KM1986 on November 01, 2016, 09:22:38 PM
Pretty busy where we hunt over there but if you get off the roads you wont see anyone. Hopefully the forecast will change before you leave and they'll get some snow over there. I would get yourself a rattle bag and a bleat can too. Last year we rattled in 3 of the 4 bucks we killed over there. Good luck, its a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 02, 2016, 12:01:00 PM
I'm confused on how many Potlatch permits I need. It's me and a buddy and we're taking 1 truck and probably 2 ATVs. So all we need is 1 permit plus the 2 ATV permits, correct? They're not making it very clear to me. Anyone who has knowledge on these Potlatch permits feel free to chime in.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: grundy53 on November 02, 2016, 12:14:05 PM
I'll be over there the 19th-26th. I'll be tent camping.

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Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: kentrek on November 02, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
We will be staying in a hotel in pierce, be prepared for really cold weather if your dry camping. You are on the right track, I will pm you when I can, it's already going to be crowded over there.
When are you headed over trophy? My dad has been hunting the area for 20+ years and 2 years ago we bought a lot in town and built a cabin, so nice to be able to get back at night and shower and dry the clothes out quickly. I'll be headed over the 10th but man i hope the weather cools off by then. If you see a green chevy flag me down
We are going over on the 16th-21st and staying at a hotel next to the big store.  Never stayed there before, it's so cheap I hope it has a floor!!!  :chuckle: you can't miss my lifted gmc silver truck w canopy.

That hotel has seen better days
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: huntbow on November 02, 2016, 02:32:12 PM
I will be going over this year as well for the first time, bringing the wall tent. Nov 13-19 
Hopefully this will help.  I emailed potlatch a very similar question just the other week.  Things have changed for me a little but this question still applies to your question.

Request:
 After reading through your frequently asked questions I am still confused on what permit I need for Idaho.  We have three guys not related in one truck with  3 four wheelers. We plan on parking by a gate and using four wheelers to access potlatch land.  Do we just need three four wheeler permits? Is the truck ok without one since its outside gated roads?

Response:
Thanks for your inquiry. You would need 3 ATV permits, and if the truck is parked on Potlatch property, you would need a passenger vehicle permit as well. The permits can all be purchased under one user account, so each person does not need to create a separate account.

The way I understand this is:
the walk-in permit ~$11
Four wheeler ~$27 covers driver and the Four wheeler
Vehicle ~$55 covers the driver and truck

Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 02, 2016, 03:34:17 PM
I will be going over this year as well for the first time, bringing the wall tent. Nov 13-19 
Hopefully this will help.  I emailed potlatch a very similar question just the other week.  Things have changed for me a little but this question still applies to your question.

Request:
 After reading through your frequently asked questions I am still confused on what permit I need for Idaho.  We have three guys not related in one truck with  3 four wheelers. We plan on parking by a gate and using four wheelers to access potlatch land.  Do we just need three four wheeler permits? Is the truck ok without one since its outside gated roads?

Response:
Thanks for your inquiry. You would need 3 ATV permits, and if the truck is parked on Potlatch property, you would need a passenger vehicle permit as well. The permits can all be purchased under one user account, so each person does not need to create a separate account.

The way I understand this is:
the walk-in permit ~$11
Four wheeler ~$27 covers driver and the Four wheeler
Vehicle ~$55 covers the driver and truck

Ah okay. That makes sense. Parking the truck at the gate (on their property) and riding the 4-wheelers in is what my plan is as well. Perfect.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 02, 2016, 03:54:24 PM
We will be staying in a hotel in pierce, be prepared for really cold weather if your dry camping. You are on the right track, I will pm you when I can, it's already going to be crowded over there.
When are you headed over trophy? My dad has been hunting the area for 20+ years and 2 years ago we bought a lot in town and built a cabin, so nice to be able to get back at night and shower and dry the clothes out quickly. I'll be headed over the 10th but man i hope the weather cools off by then. If you see a green chevy flag me down
We are going over on the 16th-21st and staying at a hotel next to the big store.  Never stayed there before, it's so cheap I hope it has a floor!!!  :chuckle: you can't miss my lifted gmc silver truck w canopy.

That hotel has seen better days
Ill be bringing my own sleeping bag and pillow, they better have a hot shower!!  What is the name of the place??
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 02, 2016, 03:56:08 PM
I'll be over there the 19th-26th. I'll be tent camping.

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Tent camping!!!  :yike: I hope you have a wood stove, it can be darn cold over there, your a brave man!  Good luck  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: grundy53 on November 02, 2016, 04:03:09 PM
I'll be over there the 19th-26th. I'll be tent camping.

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Tent camping!!!  :yike: I hope you have a wood stove, it can be darn cold over there, your a brave man!  Good luck  :tup:
Been doing it for about 8 years. It can get chilly but my -30 sleeping bag keeps me warm. Finally got a wood stove this year :chuckle:

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Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 02, 2016, 04:59:28 PM
Ok guys, which tag are you buying for 10a whitetail, the regular deer tag or the whitetail ONLY tag???? My buddies and I are confused!! I thought it was the regular deer tag???
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 02, 2016, 06:10:37 PM
Ok guys, which tag are you buying for 10a whitetail, the regular deer tag or the whitetail ONLY tag???? My buddies and I are confused!! I thought it was the regular deer tag???

Whitetail ONLY. If you look in the regs on page 9 it will state that the regular tag is only good until Nov 3rd. The whitetail only tag is good through November if look on page 15.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 02, 2016, 06:20:10 PM
That is weird, all these guys on this thread going and on the Idfg web site they haven't sold a single whitetail only tag? Strange.  I wonder if you all bought the wrong tag? 
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 02, 2016, 06:31:35 PM
I saw that as well. The lady on the phone asked me specifically which tag I wanted and I said whitetail only so hopefully that's what comes in the mail. Maybe they don't update the quotas on the website?
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: RC3 on November 02, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
Haven't bought mine yet will pick it up in Lewiston.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: huntbow on November 02, 2016, 08:49:44 PM
I asked that same question when i bought my tag over the phone. She said she has sold a bunch of whitetail only tags but for some reason it doesn't change online.  The regular tag seems to change though.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 02, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
 You guys are killing me. I switch back and forth between Idaho and Montana and this year is Montana. Wish I was wealthy enough to do both!
 IMHO ATV's are not needed. I walk in the same trails they go in and rattle in deer they drive right by. Get 100 yards away from those trails and I doubt you'll see anyone in a week.
 When I first started hunting over there in the '90's every campground was packed. I was shocked at how few of hunters were around Pierce last year. We were the only camp in our campground.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 02, 2016, 09:21:33 PM
This year it seems thousands are going, I sure hope the bar has stocked up on kegs and whiskey!!!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 02, 2016, 10:02:03 PM
You guys are killing me. I switch back and forth between Idaho and Montana and this year is Montana. Wish I was wealthy enough to do both!
 IMHO ATV's are not needed. I walk in the same trails they go in and rattle in deer they drive right by. Get 100 yards away from those trails and I doubt you'll see anyone in a week.
 When I first started hunting over there in the '90's every campground was packed. I was shocked at how few of hunters were around Pierce last year. We were the only camp in our campground.

3nails your inbox is full, trying to send you a PM  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 03, 2016, 05:03:37 AM
You guys are killing me. I switch back and forth between Idaho and Montana and this year is Montana. Wish I was wealthy enough to do both!
 IMHO ATV's are not needed. I walk in the same trails they go in and rattle in deer they drive right by. Get 100 yards away from those trails and I doubt you'll see anyone in a week.
 When I first started hunting over there in the '90's every campground was packed. I was shocked at how few of hunters were around Pierce last year. We were the only camp in our campground.

3nails your inbox is full, trying to send you a PM  :tup:
Should be room now,
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: chuck270 on November 03, 2016, 12:09:21 PM
Quote
I asked that same question when i bought my tag over the phone. She said she has sold a bunch of whitetail only tags but for some reason it doesn't change online.  The regular tag seems to change though.


All Deer tags come out of the "Regular and/or Whitetail" allotment until it is sold out then after that "Whitetail Only" tags are the only tag left available.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: grundy53 on November 03, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Ok guys, which tag are you buying for 10a whitetail, the regular deer tag or the whitetail ONLY tag???? My buddies and I are confused!! I thought it was the regular deer tag???
Two whitetail only tags for me.

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Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: HookedOnQuack on November 03, 2016, 07:12:44 PM
2 whitetail only for me! this warm weather forecast is killing me tho
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 03, 2016, 07:53:03 PM
I'm curious why everyone is talking about 10a so much this year?  I've never seen so much excitement over that area, bigger deer are more north from what I've heard. 
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Maverick on November 03, 2016, 08:43:29 PM
Buddy and i are taking my 14 yr old nephew there next weekend!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 03, 2016, 09:04:45 PM
I'm curious why everyone is talking about 10a so much this year?  I've never seen so much excitement over that area, bigger deer are more north from what I've heard.

Ya idk I've seen A LOT of deer around elk city with lots of public land. Crazy how many people were in 10a last year. If people think they are going to experience a remote hunting experience with areas all to themselves they are mistaken. But everyone learns on their own.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 03, 2016, 09:08:22 PM
A few basket bucks there, meat hunts mostly?  Lots of people for sure!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 03, 2016, 09:15:05 PM
I'm curious why everyone is talking about 10a so much this year?  I've never seen so much excitement over that area, bigger deer are more north from what I've heard.

Ya idk I've seen A LOT of deer around elk city with lots of public land. Crazy how many people were in 10a last year. If people think they are going to experience a remote hunting experience with areas all to themselves they are mistaken. But everyone learns on their own.
Funny, I had the exact opposite experience last year in 10A. Never saw another hunter off of the road.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 03, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
A few basket bucks there, meat hunts mostly?  Lots of people for sure!

Maybe the any deer thing can attract people. My cousin said before there was so many doe taken every year there was a lot more deer around which is understandable. He's lived there since the 80s. Part of the reason why I don't head to elk city is he lives in Orofino.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 03, 2016, 09:17:31 PM
I'm curious why everyone is talking about 10a so much this year?  I've never seen so much excitement over that area, bigger deer are more north from what I've heard.

Ya idk I've seen A LOT of deer around elk city with lots of public land. Crazy how many people were in 10a last year. If people think they are going to experience a remote hunting experience with areas all to themselves they are mistaken. But everyone learns on their own.
Funny, I had the exact opposite experience last year in 10A. Never saw another hunter off of the road.

Sounds like a great experience  :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: head hunter on November 03, 2016, 09:40:34 PM
Three nails is right if you get off the road you will see just a fraction of the people pounding the roads. But I prefer to hunt more open areas for them. More brush less trees I archery hunt 10a for elk but hunt whiteys in another unit. Never had much luck rattling but sitting funnels works for me.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 03, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
 That's a dandy head hunter!
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: head hunter on November 03, 2016, 09:51:02 PM
Thanks man not the biggest I've taken in Idaho but I hunted him for three seasons, he went down hill from the first time I saw him. For some reason I haven't had much luck rattling, I've killed a few coming to the horns, but I've hunted Idaho for twelve years and figured out what works for me it the area I hunt. I sit for days waiting for the one to travel through my set. It's a whole different hunt than here in Washington.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: head hunter on November 03, 2016, 09:53:27 PM
My avatar buck
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 04, 2016, 12:29:57 AM
I'm curious why everyone is talking about 10a so much this year?  I've never seen so much excitement over that area, bigger deer are more north from what I've heard.
I've always wanted to hunt Idaho around Thanksgiving but never could afford the trip or the time off until this year so I looked up the harvest stats from last year, found this unit, and pretty much just threw a dart at the map. Now hopefully that dart landed on a good spot lol I guess ill found out in two weeks.

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Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: bowhunterforever on November 04, 2016, 01:32:40 AM
That's a great buck head hunter :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 21, 2016, 10:25:11 AM
Well I shot a 2 point and my buddy shot a doe. Saw 3 other really nice bucks but couldn't get a shot on them. Hunting whitetail up there is pretty interesting and not what I expected. It's basically blacktail hunting for whitetail. It's extremely thick country with decent mountains until you get up outside of Headquarters then it can get pretty steep. I was amazed by how choked out and thick the timber was around Pierce.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 21, 2016, 04:10:04 PM
Yes it is!  Tough to find big timber around headquarters, we just got back today after hunting 4 days, 5 unnotched tags.  Could have killed smaller bucks and a couple does but we were after bigger.  My dad missed a spike and a chance at 2 3 points.  I only saw 2 decent bucks and didn't see much of a rut.  The weather was warmer than normal which probably didn't help.  We stayed at a nice place, don't want to say where because we want to stay there next year.  We ate at the pioneer and the food was amazing!!! You have to have tons of patience though, very very , very slow service.  The owner at the pierce motel almost ruined our trip, he double booked our rooms and gave us the "cabin" instead.  Just drove 7 hours and our rooms are already taken, not happy!  The cabin was a joke, very nasty, stunk, stained couch that was an extra sleeper that only an ompaloompa could sleep on.  Talked to a Huntwa member that had one of our rooms, he booked it in the summer, long before the guy gave us the room.  I was so pissed I couldn't even talk to the guy, we left and by the grace of God found a nice clean place to stay. Met some great guys, had a blast, the hunting was ok but we can't wait to go back! 
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 21, 2016, 04:25:54 PM
Being a non resident, I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but, it seems to me two deer tags per person,  any deer and long seasons are not helping the deer population?  I could be talking out my butt, but I can't help help to imagine how much better the hunting could be if more deer lived?  Don't burn me here,  just thinking.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 25, 2016, 07:41:50 PM
Being a non resident, I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but, it seems to me two deer tags per person,  any deer and long seasons are not helping the deer population?  I could be talking out my butt, but I can't help help to imagine how much better the hunting could be if more deer lived?  Don't burn me here,  just thinking.

Just within the past 5 years I've noticed a drop in the number of deer I see by a lot. Even driving in in the dark I didn't see a deer off the road. All the spots I normally hit and see deer I didn't this year as much. I think the whole any deer thing has a lot to do with it. We got 4 bucks though. Brother missed 2 masher 5x5s he didn't get them to stop. Lesson learned. He's used to shooting everything open sights at 30-40 yards these were at 150-200 yards with a scope and he didn't take a good rest just off his knees. He was bummed but tagged a 5x4 thanksgiving day.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: grundy53 on November 25, 2016, 10:06:17 PM
Agreed. Definitely not seeing the numbers we used to.

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Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: 3nails on November 26, 2016, 07:55:01 AM
 Here is what has been my observation in 10A and NW Montana. Before the takeover of wolves, deer and elk were dispersed fairly evenly over their terrain. Since the takeover, wolves will settle into an area and devour the majority of animals in that area or drive them out. They will then move to where the deer and elk fled to and begin to work them there. Because of this, deer and elk will be found in pockets. I have found that every year I need to find the pockets to have a good hunt. They more than likely won't be in the same area year by year.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: elkboy on November 26, 2016, 08:21:40 AM
Don't forget two years of bluetongue virus (even though there was less mortality at higher elevations)!  There are also areas in large patches of forest cover up there where there will be fewer whitetails, just due to distance to good foraging.  I would look for riparian areas or forested wetlands with abundant willow, birch, etc.  Clearcuts can be good, if there is good cover in herbs.   
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: ribka on November 26, 2016, 08:51:14 AM
Don't forget two years of bluetongue virus (even though there was less mortality at higher elevations)!  There are also areas in large patches of forest cover up there where there will be fewer whitetails, just due to distance to good foraging.  I would look for riparian areas or forested wetlands with abundant willow, birch, etc.  Clearcuts can be good, if there is good cover in herbs.

Plus the increased hunting pressure from the internets

If you find good out of state areas I wouldn't advertise specifics on the internet imo
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: trophyhunt on November 28, 2016, 11:53:22 AM
Don't forget two years of bluetongue virus (even though there was less mortality at higher elevations)!  There are also areas in large patches of forest cover up there where there will be fewer whitetails, just due to distance to good foraging.  I would look for riparian areas or forested wetlands with abundant willow, birch, etc.  Clearcuts can be good, if there is good cover in herbs.

Plus the increased hunting pressure from the internets

If you find good out of state areas I wouldn't advertise specifics on the internet imo
:yeah:
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: TriggerMike on November 28, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
I saw a ton of fresh sign everywhere I went, just not a ton of animals.
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: HookedOnQuack on November 29, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
I was wondering why i never saw your truck Trophy! thats quuite the crappy ordeal. The pioneer does have good food but like you said be prepared to be patient, ever since Sammy sold that and the grocery store they both have went downhill
Title: Re: Idaho Unit 10A Whitetails
Post by: HookedOnQuack on November 29, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Funny you mentioned that you thought the deer numbers were down because all summer long we couldnt believe how many deer we were seeing when out scouting and checking cams! I think the bigger reason this year was the crazy warm weather and the insane amount of people! My dad and his buddies have been going since '89 and me since about 96-97 and the people this year was unbelievable. Ive never had more people ride past my quad and within 50' of my tree stand before noticing me in my life. Our group went 9-12 with a couple nice mature deer and a few monsters that were missed but cant wait til next year myself as well!
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