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Title: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 13, 2016, 01:07:20 PM
I am having really bad problems with my Remington 870 supermagnum express. I bought this gun last year during a Black Friday sale so i could use it for duck hunting the following year. Last week and this week when I was duck hunting the gun could not load 3 inch shells into the chamber. I load the shells into the magazine and when I pump the shotgun it gets jammed and is not able to go into the chamber. I have tried 4 different brands of 3 inch shells including, hevi steel, hevi metal, Kent, and black cloud. Every single shell gets jammed when I try to pump the shotgun. For deer season a couple weekends ago I also used 3 inch federal slugs and they also jammed. I have used 2,3/4 shells and they seem to work fine. Occasionally they fail to eject from the chamber. I'm pretty disappointed with my gun right now and could use some help. It's really frustrating when my gun jams when I'm trying to hunt ducks. It's not the shells because my friends all use benelli shotguns and the shells do not jam in their gun. Thinking about just getting rid of the gun because it's not even worth selling at half price
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JLS on November 13, 2016, 01:09:49 PM
Have you contacted Remington?  That would be my first move if it were my gun.  No sense in getting rid of it, it's probably an easy fix.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 13, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Another weird type of jam. Yesterday when I had a shell in the chamber had a duck fly right it front of me landing with my decoys and when I went to pull the trigger nothing happened. The shell wasn't even in the barrel all the way like in this picture but the slide was all the way forward
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 13, 2016, 01:13:14 PM
I've emailed Remington but will miss my entire duck season if I send the gun in for 2 months. That's why I'm thinking about just buying a new benelli. This gun has been just problems since day one with shotgun shells
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JLS on November 13, 2016, 01:14:20 PM
So the slide was locked forward, but the bolt wasn't closed and engaged?
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: bugs n bones on November 13, 2016, 01:14:42 PM
I had the same problems. I ended up throwing it in the river while on a goose hunt. Went and bought benelli nova and never looked back.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: jrebel on November 13, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Heard of lots of problems with the newer production 870s which sucks because the old guns were amazing.  I will never get rid of mine......but it is 30 years old.  I would look at getting a benelli.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Timberstalker on November 13, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
I had the same problems. I ended up throwing it in the river while on a goose hunt. Went and bought benelli nova and never looked back.

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

This is classic.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 13, 2016, 03:41:07 PM
So the slide was locked forward, but the bolt wasn't closed and engaged?

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what happened. I then tried super hard to eject the shell and it took awhile and then went to cycle a new shell into the chamber and it jammed of course
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 13, 2016, 03:53:18 PM
Where can I sell this Remington? I'd like to at least get $100 back from this thing
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: dontgetcrabs on November 13, 2016, 03:55:56 PM
I'll give you $100 for it if I don't have to drive far. What's your location?
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 13, 2016, 04:12:56 PM
$101.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Timberstalker on November 13, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
$105, seller drives. 
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JJB11B on November 13, 2016, 04:37:22 PM
I have heard that the new 870 SuperMags were having issues. Sorry man... Ill give you $106 and a MAGA hat
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JKEEN33 on November 13, 2016, 04:46:25 PM
I have an 11-87 that I bought from a member on here. (Stated no issues) that did this a lot. I took it apart and polished all the moving parts and it now functions flawlessly.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: dwils233 on November 13, 2016, 04:59:00 PM

I've actually heard the same thing about a full break down and polish. might be worth a few weeknights to try to salvage it  :twocents:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 13, 2016, 05:16:46 PM
$112
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JJB11B on November 13, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
$112
I have you Trumped with the MAGA hat ;)
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 13, 2016, 05:27:30 PM
$112
I have you Trumped with the MAGA hat ;)


That's pretty funny because I was going to raise the bid by going $106 and saying he didn't need to take the MAGA hat off your hands,      :chuckle:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Stein on November 13, 2016, 05:50:32 PM
870s are great as long as they are clean and dry - not so awesome for western wa this time of year.  My 1998 870 jams all the time when it gets wet or the smallest amount of dirt or grass anywhere near it.


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Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: lokidog on November 13, 2016, 06:45:36 PM
870s are great as long as they are clean and dry - not so awesome for western wa this time of year.  My 1998 870 jams all the time when it gets wet or the smallest amount of dirt or grass anywhere near it.


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Must be the newer guns, my 1963 still works great, rain, shine, mud, saltwater or snow.....

Why not get the new gun, then send the 870 in for service?

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Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: fisheral87 on November 13, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Agree with lokidog, my wingmaster took everything in stride temps I n the teens, mud sand. Only thing it would not cycle was Winchester XXX shells.

Hold Remington to the fire and test out Benelli.

Al
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 13, 2016, 07:04:44 PM
It is an interesting issue.....

My three sons all shhot 870 ultramags.   No such issues.   

Sorry you're experiencing this

It sux to get a new piece of gear and have it not perform. 
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 13, 2016, 07:21:05 PM
I looked at 1 of the kids 870's new this year and the slide was already worn out maybe 100 rounds threw it.like said i would buy the Nova then send this 1 to Rem. to get fixed.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 13, 2016, 07:28:01 PM
I looked at 1 of the kids 870's new this year and the slide was already worn out maybe 100 rounds threw it.like said i would buy the Nova then send this 1 to Rem. to get fixed.  :twocents:


That's crazy for the slide to wear out that fast!!!

My sons all have many hundreds to over a thousand rounds apiece thru them with no such issues......   knock on wood!
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 13, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
the metal the slide was made of seems very soft to me.  :tup:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 13, 2016, 07:35:05 PM
it was not latching on and locking.just like the op's
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: 700xcr on November 13, 2016, 07:41:20 PM
Had the same shooting 3-1/2" shells. Chamber was rough. Took a chamber brush in a drill with 00 steel wool and gun oil. Polished chamber and where rim of shell sits in barrel. Machine marks left from factory was crabbing the rim after firing do to expansion. Also changed out magazine follower to an aluminum one and the away the plastic factory one. It solve the problem.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: dscubame on November 13, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Supermags... always had the impression this has been a issue from the start.  More than a couple guys I knew had this issue when they first came out.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 13, 2016, 09:11:28 PM
Man, after reading all of this, I feel really fortunate that my sons all have working Ultramags.......

I'd be really torqued if I experienced what the OP was showing.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: JDHasty on November 13, 2016, 11:37:13 PM
From what I have seen of them... I wouldn't give you a six pack of beer and a roll of duct tape for one. 
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 14, 2016, 02:07:52 AM
No reason why a pump should have to be clean and dry. My supernova has been covered in ice and sand. Never had a single issue. Go supernova!
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: MADMAX on November 14, 2016, 06:07:28 AM
Heard of lots of problems with the newer production 870s which sucks because the old guns were amazing.  I will never get rid of mine......but it is 30 years old.  I would look at getting a benelli.

 :yeah:

I bought my 870 at coast to coast for $189 bucks in the early 80s
great gun !

too bad 4 U
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Ajj828 on November 14, 2016, 03:26:53 PM
Picked up a nova today. Cycles 3 inch shells so smoothly no jamming at all
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Buckewe on November 14, 2016, 03:34:32 PM
Good choice I'll have my nova till I die
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: quadrafire on November 14, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
Could it be that the chamber is not bored to the correct length listed on the barrel? Kinda looks like that in the second pic  :dunno:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Special T on November 14, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
Had the same shooting 3-1/2" shells. Chamber was rough. Took a chamber brush in a drill with 00 steel wool and gun oil. Polished chamber and where rim of shell sits in barrel. Machine marks left from factory was crabbing the rim after firing do to expansion. Also changed out magazine follower to an aluminum one and the away the plastic factory one. It solve the problem.
I have done something very similar on ALL my shotguns. I take a scotch Brite pad and cut it so that a step will go in my shot gun patch Rod. Usually 3/4"x3" or so. I ad some atf to the pad and insert it to the barrel and chamber chuck it up on my eletric drill and honestly the piss out of it. Works great for debugging and polishing. Had made all my guns shoot better.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 24, 2016, 03:59:33 PM
Irony alert!!!!!


 I stated earlier that all three of my boys shoot 870 Ultramags with no issues.   That was true.......   until this morning's hunt

My son jammed ealr in the hunt and I can't unjam it for anything.   

I can't get the barrel off because you need it mid-pump to sliode the barrel off and it is jammed closed on an empty.   

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.     
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 24, 2016, 04:11:06 PM
 :chuckle: how many have seen chokes stuck in these p.o.s shotguns?soft metal entire firearm.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Bofire on November 24, 2016, 06:08:08 PM
 :) I have two 870's, neither are Express models, both are SPS 3.5 inch models. Flawless since new 100's of rounds and rough use. Have an old 870 Wingmaster Flawless for 35 years.
Carl
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: 700xcr on November 24, 2016, 06:56:06 PM
:chuckle: how many have seen chokes stuck in these p.o.s shotguns?soft metal entire firearm.
Do you use lube on the choke tube threads? If you don't remove choke once in a while and clean threads plus lube them before but installation of choke tube they will get stuck. It is part of cleaning that you should do. More time then once I had to re tighten choke tube between a few shots.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 24, 2016, 07:33:57 PM
I do yes.My kids friends have brought 2 over that had chokes stuck and the 1 that the slide got chewed up.to soft.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 25, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
UPDATE:

I found a very good youtube video that showed the problem and how to correct it.

It seems that machining marks left in the breech is a common culprit for jams in these 870s   (seems like simple quality control failure at Remington to me, but......)

Anyway, I machined all of ours dwon and polished them.          Much much smoother.     

Going goose hunting in the AM.  I'm thinknking my son's 870 won't jam anymore (pleeeeeeeeeze).

To the OP, I like that Nova......   
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Oh Mah on November 25, 2016, 11:34:00 PM
Hopefully it works for you.  :yeah:
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on November 25, 2016, 11:49:26 PM
It better!!!!!

I can't afford 3 new Nova's!!!!!!
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: cumminsbassguy on November 26, 2016, 08:53:05 AM
UPDATE:

I found a very good youtube video that showed the problem and how to correct it.

It seems that machining marks left in the breech is a common culprit for jams in these 870s   (seems like simple quality control failure at Remington to me, but......)

Anyway, I machined all of ours dwon and polished them.          Much much smoother.     

Going goose hunting in the AM.  I'm thinknking my son's 870 won't jam anymore (pleeeeeeeeeze).

To the OP, I like that Nova......   
remember the link to that video ?
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Mulie87 on December 26, 2016, 09:34:53 PM
I used to own the same gun. I had the problem of the shell Getting stuck and I couldn't pull the pump back. Send it back to Remington, the wait won't be that long and then you're gun will work just fine. It won't cost any $.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Dan-o on December 26, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
UPDATE:

I found a very good youtube video that showed the problem and how to correct it.

It seems that machining marks left in the breech is a common culprit for jams in these 870s   (seems like simple quality control failure at Remington to me, but......)

Anyway, I machined all of ours dwon and polished them.          Much much smoother.     

Going goose hunting in the AM.  I'm thinknking my son's 870 won't jam anymore (pleeeeeeeeeze).

To the OP, I like that Nova......   
remember the link to that video ?


@cumminsbassguy

I used this one because the guy explained the issue and then showed exactly how to do it.

UPDATE:   ALL of my sons 3 870's now shoot smoothly, and jam free (including plenty of 3  1/2" mags)


P.S.  All three of my son's 870's had these machining marks.   I guess it's a QA issue for them.   I could feel them with my fingernail more easily than I could see them.
Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: Stein on January 27, 2017, 01:28:33 PM
When they are jammed, hold the fore stock very tight and slam the butt on a log or rock.  I'm going to try the polish thing as well, it makes sense as after I clean the bore I can get a few shots before jamming.


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Title: Re: Remington 870 supermag...about to throw this gun in the trash
Post by: wadu1 on January 27, 2017, 02:18:58 PM
I've owned 8 or 10 870's all but one jammed, that one was an early Wingmaster. They have all been traded off for something better. I'm now shooting a Beretta or a Baikal, the Russian is my salt water gun. I still have a few pump guns just for fun, a Winchester Model 12 (Trap), Sears (Winchester) and a BPS. I use the BPS for Sporting Clays pup gun events.   
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