Post by: saylean on November 14, 2016, 05:58:13 PM
Someone knows who did this, share on facebook etc and lets find these A holes.
Post by: Timberstalker on November 14, 2016, 06:06:32 PM
Hopefully the radio report sheds more light.
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 14, 2016, 06:12:56 PM
Post by: dscubame on November 14, 2016, 06:15:30 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on November 14, 2016, 06:18:31 PM
Post by: kellama2001 on November 14, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
Post by: Dan-o on November 14, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
Disgusting.
Post by: bigtex on November 14, 2016, 06:25:43 PM
Seriously can we get some stricter laws and catch these a holes people wonder why hunters catch a bad rap MA this is crap can't believe someone would do thatThe spree killing felony this article mentioned was enacted about 4 years ago. Prior to that his would've been a gross misdemeanor..
Post by: JJB11B on November 14, 2016, 06:26:27 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 14, 2016, 06:27:09 PM
Post by: JJB11B on November 14, 2016, 06:28:13 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 14, 2016, 06:30:11 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on November 14, 2016, 06:30:49 PM
They need their hunting privileges lost for life. If anybody would like to argue differently, I'd love to entertain their reasoning......
I'd add, in all states. Not just Washington.
Post by: saylean on November 14, 2016, 06:35:16 PM
Words just don't express it does it?
Post by: Rainier10 on November 14, 2016, 06:36:55 PM
Can't even say what I want to!😡😡😡:yeah:
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 14, 2016, 06:39:37 PM
Post by: 3nails on November 14, 2016, 06:55:45 PM
I put my money on PETAHmmmm.....
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 14, 2016, 06:56:59 PM
I put my money on PETA
Wouldn't surprise me if it was non hunters.
Post by: Pinetar on November 14, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
He also told me that a bunch of hunters showed up and helped pack/drag all the elk out so they wouldn't go to waste.
Post by: b.roberts on November 14, 2016, 07:19:51 PM
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Post by: jmscon on November 14, 2016, 07:21:12 PM
Does anyone remember the guy who shot up a herd at elk heights rd about 12 years back? Came in to L T Murry on the last day of modern and there were a bunch of warden rig there with elk in the back. A warden said one guy went crazy when the herd came through and just started shooting. Pretty sure they caught up with him.
Post by: WenHunter on November 14, 2016, 07:29:50 PM
Post by: 206 on November 14, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
I hate this kind of crap!!! Hope they catch these dumb $&@ scum!
Does anyone remember the guy who shot up a herd at elk heights rd about 12 years back? Came in to L T Murry on the last day of modern and there were a bunch of warden rig there with elk in the back. A warden said one guy went crazy when the herd came through and just started shooting. Pretty sure they caught up with him.
The herd was held up tight in that field where those iron elk silhouette's are now? Then someone scared them out, and the lady living in the house across the road, tried to split the herd to help them with her truck. They ended running behind her house where the slaughter was. Dad and I were there 2 hours later and seen elk being loaded, and many blood trails in the snow while driving up the road
Post by: E35alex on November 14, 2016, 07:46:54 PM
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Post by: davk on November 14, 2016, 07:57:32 PM
Same. You tend to see a lot of that type of bs in order to create their false reality.I put my money on PETA
Wouldn't surprise me if it was non hunters.
Post by: vandeman17 on November 14, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Why would they be shooting so many calves out of the group? Hoping maybe one of them had some small spike nubbins to be a legal spike? Or just spraying bullets at a legal spike in the group and hit a bunch of non legal animals in the process?
My guess is just glory killing spree
Post by: cumminsbassguy on November 14, 2016, 08:02:06 PM
Post by: BreezyBear on November 14, 2016, 08:26:18 PM
Post by: floatinghat on November 14, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
Something like this should be more than 10pts.
Post by: vandeman17 on November 14, 2016, 08:30:19 PM
Something like this should be more than 10pts.
And a swift kick to the nuts for each animal killed plus a much more harsh punishment
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 14, 2016, 08:31:12 PM
Post by: elksnout on November 14, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Post by: pashok23 on November 14, 2016, 09:25:49 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 14, 2016, 09:48:52 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 14, 2016, 09:54:26 PM
Hypothetical
What would the punishment be if this was natives?
Really... :bash:
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 14, 2016, 10:13:14 PM
Post by: Waycott15 on November 14, 2016, 10:18:06 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 14, 2016, 10:19:05 PM
Hypothetical
What would the punishment be if this was natives?
Really... :bash:
Yes really but not in a stirring the pot kind of response... we know from the article what the punishment is for anyone other than natives but do some tribes have wasting type laws or anything comparable, that is all I meant. White, Brown, Black or Green this is an indefensible act!!!
u took it the wrong way :yike:
I didn't take it the wrong way. I read it just the way it was posted. Had you meant it another way then you should have elaborated a little more on the question. And yes, we down here have similar laws.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 15, 2016, 06:52:39 AM
Post by: Labs07 on November 15, 2016, 07:12:07 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on November 15, 2016, 07:21:10 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on November 15, 2016, 07:21:52 AM
Something like this should be more than 10pts.
And a swift kick to the nuts for each animal killed plus a much more harsh punishment
Castration
Post by: jay.sharkbait on November 15, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
Something like this should be more than 10pts.
And a swift kick to the nuts for each animal killed plus a much more harsh punishment
Castration
Maybe concentration camps too?
Forced sterilization could be used against so many crimes. While we're at it let's just round up certain demographics and sterilize them as well. After all they are going to commit a crime at some point in thier lives anyway.
Post by: mfswallace on November 15, 2016, 08:24:02 AM
Hypothetical
What would the punishment be if this was natives?
Really... :bash:
Yes really but not in a stirring the pot kind of response... we know from the article what the punishment is for anyone other than natives but do some tribes have wasting type laws or anything comparable, that is all I meant. White, Brown, Black or Green this is an indefensible act!!!
u took it the wrong way :yike:
I didn't take it the wrong way. I read it just the way it was posted. Had you meant it another way then you should have elaborated a little more on the question. And yes, we down here have similar laws.
Yep hyper sensitive but I get it... I guess I could have elaborated from the beginning cause I am curious since there are so many protected special classes of people that live within the borders of the US but aren't required to follow the same rules, that's all :tup:
Post by: C-Money on November 15, 2016, 08:47:09 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on November 15, 2016, 09:00:18 AM
Post by: scottr on November 15, 2016, 09:19:48 AM
Lets focus on trying to catch these thieves vs hypothetical scenarios of what may play out IF a certain group of people had done this.....
:yeah:
Post by: MADMAX on November 15, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
I checked and found nothing mentioned about it.
just FYI
absolutely sucks that happened, dang
Post by: elkrack on November 15, 2016, 11:10:51 AM
Post by: DaveMonti on November 15, 2016, 11:23:05 AM
Has anyone determined if this is a legitimate story? I've searched for stories on this and the only sources online are forums/blogs and facebook. I've not yet seen a legitimate news agency report on this.
DICSLAIMER!!!
I have no idea about nwsportsmansmag and can't seem to get on to the website, but I'd expect there to be bigger news outlets covering this story, especially if it was done by liberals that are trying to paint hunters in a bad light. It may be a legit news agency, but I don't know much about it. My point here is that I'd expect a news agency like King5 or at least the Ellensburg Record to have a report on this. I didn't find any, but I didn't search too hard.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 15, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Quick question:A quick google search comes up with the first three hits being about "Bullwinkle" then the NWsportsmansmag article about this incident. Interesting. My wifes friend said that they came across a poached cow in the colockum on Sunday, I will see if it was in Schnebly canyon or not.
Has anyone determined if this is a legitimate story? I've searched for stories on this and the only sources online are forums/blogs and facebook. I've not yet seen a legitimate news agency report on this.
DICSLAIMER!!!
I have no idea about nwsportsmansmag and can't seem to get on to the website, but I'd expect there to be bigger news outlets covering this story, especially if it was done by liberals that are trying to paint hunters in a bad light. It may be a legit news agency, but I don't know much about it. My point here is that I'd expect a news agency like King5 or at least the Ellensburg Record to have a report on this. I didn't find any, but I didn't search too hard.
Post by: DaveMonti on November 15, 2016, 11:38:31 AM
Quick question:A quick google search comes up with the first three hits being about "Bullwinkle" then the NWsportsmansmag article about this incident. Interesting. My wifes friend said that they came across a poached cow in the colockum on Sunday, I will see if it was in Schnebly canyon or not.
Has anyone determined if this is a legitimate story? I've searched for stories on this and the only sources online are forums/blogs and facebook. I've not yet seen a legitimate news agency report on this.
DICSLAIMER!!!
I have no idea about nwsportsmansmag and can't seem to get on to the website, but I'd expect there to be bigger news outlets covering this story, especially if it was done by liberals that are trying to paint hunters in a bad light. It may be a legit news agency, but I don't know much about it. My point here is that I'd expect a news agency like King5 or at least the Ellensburg Record to have a report on this. I didn't find any, but I didn't search too hard.
I found the same results Rainier. The NWSportsmans link that doesn't work for me, and a lot of links about Bullwinkle. There is a Rokslide and a facebook links as well, but I suspect those are linking to the same NWSportsmans (phantom?) post.
Post by: boneaddict on November 15, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
Post by: DaveMonti on November 15, 2016, 11:46:27 AM
Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/herd-of-elk-shot-up-near-ellensburg-tips-needed/
I believe we'll hear from the man behind NW Sportsman magazine here pretty directly. Stand by.
Here's the link to their main website, which also works fine.
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/
Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2016, 12:23:19 PM
Quick question:
Has anyone determined if this is a legitimate story? I've searched for stories on this and the only sources online are forums/blogs and facebook. I've not yet seen a legitimate news agency report on this.
DICSLAIMER!!!
I have no idea about nwsportsmansmag and can't seem to get on to the website, but I'd expect there to be bigger news outlets covering this story, especially if it was done by liberals that are trying to paint hunters in a bad light. It may be a legit news agency, but I don't know much about it. My point here is that I'd expect a news agency like King5 or at least the Ellensburg Record to have a report on this. I didn't find any, but I didn't search too hard.
It's a legit, popular magazine sold at stores all over the area. Also comes in the mail if you have a subscription. I believe it was the folks who had the Hunting and Fishing news when that magazine folded that started up NW Sportsman magazine. Andy will probably be able to clarify more accurately.
Post by: Bob33 on November 15, 2016, 12:25:53 PM
Post by: CGDucksandDeer on November 15, 2016, 12:28:28 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
I'll check Snopes. ;)I guess maybe I should've checked there first.
Post by: jackmaster on November 15, 2016, 12:31:16 PM
Can't even say what I want to!😡😡😡:yeah: people that do this should, well I will keep my comments to myself lest incriminating myself in an open forum, especially for the dipdunks that don't see this as a big deal :bash:
Post by: DaveMonti on November 15, 2016, 12:33:55 PM
Post by: Andy Walgamott on November 15, 2016, 12:34:36 PM
Just before 11 a.m. today the site that hosts our company's websites went down for about 45 minutes, making it impossible to find the story. The site should be working again.
I can understand why some might be leery of news from a nontraditional news source such as Northwest Sportsman, especially in this day and age. Frankly, I'm guilty of doing the exact same thing as you: "Wait a minute, why isn't this on Channel ___/in Newspaper ___? Who the heck are these jokers at nwsportsmanmag.com?!? Dang fake news!!"
In my and other reporters' defense, my gig is pretty focused on Northwest fishing, hunting and wildlife, so I'm not being dragged off on all sorts of man-bites-dog/human interest/etc. tangents like reporters at more traditional news outlets are.
Just to outline my reporting here: Yesterday afternoon I was contacted by WDFW Officer Roman Varyvoda and we discussed the case. I asked for images, which he supplied, and I cranked out that blog before 5.
Subsequently I was contacted by one of the people who reported the incident to WDFW and will be writing a follow-up blog with their thoughts.
Hope this helps. If you have any questions (or story tips!), feel free to contact me at awalgamott@media-inc.com.
Thanks!
AW
NWS
Post by: scottr on November 15, 2016, 12:48:12 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2016, 12:49:30 PM
Quick question:A quick google search comes up with the first three hits being about "Bullwinkle" then the NWsportsmansmag article about this incident. Interesting. My wifes friend said that they came across a poached cow in the colockum on Sunday, I will see if it was in Schnebly canyon or not.
Has anyone determined if this is a legitimate story? I've searched for stories on this and the only sources online are forums/blogs and facebook. I've not yet seen a legitimate news agency report on this.
DICSLAIMER!!!
I have no idea about nwsportsmansmag and can't seem to get on to the website, but I'd expect there to be bigger news outlets covering this story, especially if it was done by liberals that are trying to paint hunters in a bad light. It may be a legit news agency, but I don't know much about it. My point here is that I'd expect a news agency like King5 or at least the Ellensburg Record to have a report on this. I didn't find any, but I didn't search too hard.
I found the same results Rainier. The NWSportsmans link that doesn't work for me, and a lot of links about Bullwinkle. There is a Rokslide and a facebook links as well, but I suspect those are linking to the same NWSportsmans (phantom?) post.
If you guys used the words "schnebly" and "poaching" or something along those lines, take note of the name of one of the main folks interviewed in the Bullwinkle articles.
Probably why you got all the Bullwinkle search results.
Post by: DaveMonti on November 15, 2016, 12:51:15 PM
Thanks for following up with us Andy.
Post by: Elkrunner on November 15, 2016, 12:51:38 PM
Hi, all, thanks for your interest in the story I did on this case. Let me try to address some of these concerns.
Just before 11 a.m. today the site that hosts our company's websites went down for about 45 minutes, making it impossible to find the story. The site should be working again.
I can understand why some might be leery of news from a nontraditional news source such as Northwest Sportsman, especially in this day and age. Frankly, I'm guilty of doing the exact same thing as you: "Wait a minute, why isn't this on Channel ___/in Newspaper ___? Who the heck are these jokers at nwsportsmanmag.com?!? Dang fake news!!"
In my and other reporters' defense, my gig is pretty focused on Northwest fishing, hunting and wildlife, so I'm not being dragged off on all sorts of man-bites-dog/human interest/etc. tangents like reporters at more traditional news outlets are.
Just to outline my reporting here: Yesterday afternoon I was contacted by WDFW Officer Roman Varyvoda and we discussed the case. I asked for images, which he supplied, and I cranked out that blog before 5.
Subsequently I was contacted by one of the people who reported the incident to WDFW and will be writing a follow-up blog with their thoughts.
Hope this helps. If you have any questions (or story tips!), feel free to contact me at awalgamott@media-inc.com.
Thanks!
AW
NWS
:tup:
Post by: Andy Walgamott on November 15, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
AW
NWS
Post by: 1bugman on November 15, 2016, 01:28:05 PM
Post by: saylean on November 15, 2016, 01:31:08 PM
Anyway, I am willing to put up $100 bucks toward the reward. I think it would be great to get a fundraiser from Hunt WA to add to the reward if anyone else is willing.
A loud voice of disgust from the hunting community is what is going to help us retain a decent image and perhaps, help catch these (this) person.
I am not sure how to proceed with something like that, if the Wdfw would need to be contacted and involved...just spit balling.
Like all of you, this just sickens me, and I want to put some money where my mouth is.
Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2016, 01:41:43 PM
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/herd-of-elk-shot-left-to-rot-near-ellensburg/467497603
Post by: JDhunting_Aus on November 15, 2016, 01:47:33 PM
But to put into perspective that's perfectly legal in Australia and I've seen it happen.
No salvage laws or tags so the scumbags that want to bomb up deer And leave them to rot are legally entitled to.
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Post by: vandeman17 on November 15, 2016, 01:49:15 PM
I wouldn't have posted it if it was a bogus story. I checked it out before I posted it on here and all over facebook. I am glad it was checked out further though, nothing wrong with that.
Anyway, I am willing to put up $100 bucks toward the reward. I think it would be great to get a fundraiser from Hunt WA to add to the reward if anyone else is willing.
A loud voice of disgust from the hunting community is what is going to help us retain a decent image and perhaps, help catch these (this) person.
I am not sure how to proceed with something like that, if the Wdfw would need to be contacted and involved...just spit balling.
Like all of you, this just sickens me, and I want to put some money where my mouth is.
I would donate to the cause as well.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 15, 2016, 02:49:38 PM
Post by: scottr on November 15, 2016, 04:08:59 PM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/hunter-who-reported-ellensburg-elk-massacre-nauseous-and-furious/
Post by: nicz on November 15, 2016, 06:51:57 PM
Post by: JeffRaines on November 16, 2016, 12:06:14 AM
Whoever did this should have the hunting privileges cancelled for life and the right to own firearms.
Agreed. They have already shown that they don't care about laws, so banning them from hunting would be a waste of time. Seizing all their firearms and a lifetime irreversible ban on owning or even using them would work.
Post by: JDHasty on November 17, 2016, 09:04:13 AM
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Post by: scottr on November 17, 2016, 03:34:32 PM
In the Seattle Times today
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Don't read the comments :bash:
Post by: mfswallace on November 17, 2016, 09:55:56 PM
In the Seattle Times today
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Don't read the comments :bash:
Can't cause I have reached my limit on reading their articles without signing up for the BS!!
Post by: Bob33 on November 17, 2016, 10:20:42 PM
Friends don't let friends pay a dime to the Seattle Times.In the Seattle Times today
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Don't read the comments :bash:
Can't cause I have reached my limit on reading their articles without signing up for the BS!!
Post by: JDHasty on November 18, 2016, 05:46:08 AM
Friends don't let friends pay a dime to the Seattle Times.In the Seattle Times today
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Don't read the comments :bash:
Can't cause I have reached my limit on reading their articles without signing up for the BS!!
Clear your browser history and it resets
Post by: cougforester on November 18, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
Friends don't let friends pay a dime to the Seattle Times.In the Seattle Times today
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/reward-offered-in-shooting-of-5-elk-near-ellensburg/
Don't read the comments :bash:
Can't cause I have reached my limit on reading their articles without signing up for the BS!!
Clear your browser history and it resets
Or just use the incognito browser! So you don't lose other commonly visited websites too.
Post by: Stickerbush on November 18, 2016, 07:03:51 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 18, 2016, 07:54:19 AM
Post by: bracer40 on November 18, 2016, 08:34:12 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 18, 2016, 08:36:49 AM
Wow, some liberals are just hugely hateful people. I can't believe the ignorance of the comments on that article. I was going to reply but to what eventual result?
Its always surprising to me how ignorant many non-hunters are of what hunting actually consists of. I have found that there are actually more who are willing to listen and have a well thought out conversation than the ones who stonewall you, you just have to be willing to have that conversation. (note: I said conversation, not argument. As soon as emotion is brought into it, all common sense goes out the window).
Post by: JDHasty on November 18, 2016, 08:41:12 AM
Post by: bracer40 on November 18, 2016, 08:59:38 AM
I had one tell me yesterday the he thought it would be great if game animals also had a gun on them. I agreed with him. Getting a free gun every time I shoot one would be a great perquisite. He got mad and went all stompy feet at that point because others were laughing at my comment.That's funny!
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 18, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
Wow, some liberals are just hugely hateful people. I can't believe the ignorance of the comments on that article. I was going to reply but to what eventual result?
Its always surprising to me how ignorant many non-hunters are of what hunting actually consists of. I have found that there are actually more who are willing to listen and have a well thought out conversation than the ones who stonewall you, you just have to be willing to have that conversation. (note: I said conversation, not argument. As soon as emotion is brought into it, all common sense goes out the window).
I'm very effective at that conversation. But when the other side of it starts out with "we should have a season to kill hunter A-holes.", there's not going to be any listening for it.
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Post by: Dan-o on June 04, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
No word. The shooter prob sells jerky, yup, I said just what I wanted to say back in 2016.
Baseless speculation?
If you have evidence, you should turn it over.
Post by: jackelope on June 04, 2019, 10:10:33 PM
No word. The shooter prob sells jerky, yup, I said just what I wanted to say back in 2016.
Baseless speculation?
If you have evidence, you should turn it over.
Agreed. If you know something, you should report it. If you’re just slinging mud, take it somewhere else.