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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Ricochet on February 12, 2009, 02:36:33 PM

Title: Deer scoring
Post by: Ricochet on February 12, 2009, 02:36:33 PM: Some other threads contained photos of bucks with scores that were questionable to some folks. Not trying to stir the pot here, just thought I'd post some live buck photos for everyone to practice their scoring on. I've included three shots of the buck so you'll have more to go on than a single, head on photo.

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Let's see some numbers. How wide, gross score, net score?
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bucklucky on February 12, 2009, 02:38:50 PM: 29 outside, 192 gross, 184 net.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: BLUEBULLS on February 12, 2009, 02:43:39 PM: Charlie, quit tapping into my head.

i'll go 29 1/8 wide

192 1/8 gr

184 1/8 net

hehehe
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bucklucky on February 12, 2009, 02:47:34 PM: :chuckle:, dont worry M_ray will add an eighth to your score too :)
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 12, 2009, 02:57:10 PM: Thats ALOT closer to 190 than the bucks that were posted. LOL
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on February 12, 2009, 02:58:05 PM: 5 points western and 10 points eastern. Thats the limits of my scoring abilities.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 12, 2009, 03:01:27 PM: 29 7/8 wide, 198 gross 192 5/8 net
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on February 12, 2009, 03:05:07 PM: I would tend to agree with Bone more on this one so far.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: tlbradford on February 12, 2009, 03:15:54 PM: 196, somebody shoot em and score quick.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Ricochet on February 12, 2009, 03:41:09 PM: He's already been shot and scored, I just thought it would be interesting to let everyone score a buck "on the hoof" and then give the correct numbers. No better way to train your eye IMHO. I'll post the true scores in a couple days.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: loveipabeer on February 12, 2009, 03:56:10 PM: That thing is awesome.

28" W

191" G

183" N

or $1
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: huntnphool on February 12, 2009, 04:05:14 PM: 28.5" wide 197 gross typ. 189 net

Quote
He's already been shot and scored,

By the way, Eastmans didn't score it did they, I may have to change my guess ;)
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on February 12, 2009, 04:16:46 PM: 203 gross 196 net 29 inches wide
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: MichaelJ on February 12, 2009, 04:23:42 PM: First guess was 188" gross... That width REALLY helps him out though I think I'll say 191" gross...

Michael
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: jackelope on February 12, 2009, 04:34:03 PM: if eastmans scored it, i will put him at 236 4/8 gross, 224 3/8 net.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 12, 2009, 04:37:26 PM: :chuckle:

ran him through my math "program" came out with 30. 1875 inches wide, which is essentially 30 and 1/8 or so.....curious how close it works. Of course it was with a smaller pic but fun anyhow
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: ThePascoKid on February 12, 2009, 04:45:29 PM: 29 3/4 wide, 196 gross, 187 net
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: RUTNBULL1 on February 12, 2009, 05:04:23 PM: Awesome buck, push-in the magical 200 inch mark:drool:, I say 198 5/8 gross, 189 7/8 net ( Oh yeah Nets are for fish), 29.5 inch inside spread. :P
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 12, 2009, 05:10:14 PM: I'm going to borrow the 29 4/8" spread from Mossback2, 192 gross and 185 4/8" net. All I really know is "SHOOTER"! I wouldn't even guess a score until after he was dead and tagged.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bow-n-head on February 12, 2009, 06:14:52 PM: Quote from: jackelope on February 12, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
if eastmans scored it, i will put him at 236 4/8 gross, 224 3/8 net.

:dunno:

I concure I am going to get a little more technical. Main beams 24 g-1 1.5 g-2 17.5 g-3 9.0 g-4 11.5 h-1 5.0 h-2 4.75 h-3 4.5 h-4 4.5 that is his biggest side. double that and give him 26 in spread, generously he may gross 190, he is quite lopsided, he may ONLY :drool: net 180.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 12, 2009, 06:41:33 PM: we should do one at a time or this could get confusing way fast.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: blacktailer on February 12, 2009, 06:46:35 PM: I'm gonna throw out the following:

Ricochet's buck- 194 gross
Bow n String' muley- 184 gross
Bow String's whitetail- 196 gross

Those are all three awesome bucks in three different kind of ways!!!!
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: blacktailer on February 12, 2009, 06:47:51 PM: Meant to say bow-n-head
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bow-n-head on February 12, 2009, 06:49:58 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on February 12, 2009, 06:41:33 PM
we should do one at a time or this could get confusing way fast.
sorry I got alittle carried away. having to much fun :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bow-n-head on February 12, 2009, 07:43:58 PM: Quote from: blacktailer on February 12, 2009, 06:46:35 PM
I'm gonna throw out the following:

Ricochet's buck- 194 gross
Bow n String' muley- 184 gross
Bow String's whitetail- 196 gross

Those are all three awesome bucks in three different kind of ways!!!!
I'll repost those on a new thread, good guesses though.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: UBA on February 13, 2009, 01:47:32 PM: Going to say 29.5 wide and gross around 196 .....net 193.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: luvtohnt on February 13, 2009, 01:50:41 PM: My guess. PULL THE TRIGGER!!

Brandon
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 13, 2009, 02:05:32 PM: Let him go he will grow!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 13, 2009, 11:52:11 PM: Not good at those exact scores (too much math). Gut feeling says "that's a 200" buck". 'nuff to make me pee a little if he was in front of me and I had a tag...
and yes, nets are for fish (again, waaay too much math)...
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 14, 2009, 11:09:26 AM: and teh score is........
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Ricochet on February 14, 2009, 11:31:05 AM: Guys, I've got to apologise. I thought I had the official score of the buck, it turns out its his "rough" score. I shipped the hunter an email this morning to see if he ever had it officially scored, hopefully we'll know soon. BUT, his rough score is lower than anyone's guess. The buck is a hair over 29 on the outside. His rough gross is 181 and nets 174. If any of you have a 2008 Oregon tag guide, the buck is on page three. Still a darn good buck for a muzzy hunter!
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bow-n-head on February 14, 2009, 05:51:51 PM: Mule deer can be very decieving. I don't know how many time I have gone after a (monster) someone saw only to be dissapointed when I found him. Major ground shrinkage. Fun nontheless. thanks for the thread ricochet. I would still shoot that buck anyday.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: old school on February 14, 2009, 06:10:38 PM: How about 205 you gota give him that.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on February 14, 2009, 06:25:25 PM: Would you rather have a wall full of trophies that were Impressive to look at or a wall full of trophies that get your name in a book. I think some of the most Impressive deer I have seen didn't make the record book. That deer there fits into that category. He looks extremely impressive so who cares what he scores.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Ricochet on February 14, 2009, 07:12:44 PM: Agreed WAPITIHUNTER,
He's a beautiful buck and to the hunter that took him, he's the buck of his lifetime. Scores are useful for comparing different buck's headgear, but only the hunter knows the true value of the trophy. Its just human nature to turn everything into a competition (i.e. synchronized swimming) but the true competition is between hunter and prey and there's no way to quantify that.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 14, 2009, 07:37:23 PM: Great example. Folks think that 190 or 180 is just a number bouncing around out there. Too many folks reading muley crazy I think. Thats why I am so critical when folks throw up their exaggerated scores. A 190 buck is a holy grail! 180 buck isn't far off.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bucklucky on February 14, 2009, 08:11:22 PM: Hey Bone . I was closer than you on the width and score :P :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: boneaddict on February 14, 2009, 08:13:39 PM: He saida hair over 29, so I gotcha on that one.....as for the score, surprised I am usually on the smaller side. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 15, 2009, 10:56:45 PM: hmmm... I guess I was way off. Oh well, like Bone says, a 180 buck is a stud. I'd give a lot to throw my tag on a 180 muley, in any state, with any weapon...
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 18, 2009, 08:22:49 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on February 14, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
Great example. Folks think that 190 or 180 is just a number bouncing around out there. Too many folks reading muley crazy I think. Thats why I am so critical when folks throw up their exaggerated scores. A 190 buck is a holy grail! 180 buck isn't far off.
I like to think I'm a tad better than the average Nimrod, but heck, I've still yet to break 170.
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: huntnphool on February 18, 2009, 08:36:19 PM: Quote
Oh well, like Bone says, a 180 buck is a stud. I'd give a lot to throw my tag on a 180 muley, in any state

Personally I set my goal at 180 class min. on every trip. If it gets to the last day I will then drop it to 170 class, knowing a 170 buck is still pretty impressive and is typically lacking in only one spot to make it a 180 buck. :twocents:
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: Ricochet on March 03, 2009, 05:26:49 PM: Hey guys, I got an email from the hunter just now. He says the official score is....188 5/8 gross and 181 1/8 net. So several of you were pretty close. Good job. They set the "official" outside spread at 30 even.

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Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: huntnphool on March 03, 2009, 05:35:05 PM: Looks like I missed the gross by an inch again ;)
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: MichaelJ on March 04, 2009, 04:53:46 PM: Quote from: MichaelJ on February 12, 2009, 04:23:42 PM
First guess was 188" gross... That width REALLY helps him out though I think I'll say 191" gross...

Michael

Quote from: Ricochet on March 03, 2009, 05:26:49 PM
Hey guys, I got an email from the hunter just now. He says the official score is....188 5/8 gross and 181 1/8 net. So several of you were pretty close. Good job. They set the "official" outside spread at 30 even.

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Ooohh Dang I'm good! lol Should've trusted my first guess.... ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Deer scoring
Post by: bucklucky on March 04, 2009, 05:30:12 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on March 03, 2009, 05:35:05 PM
Looks like I missed the gross by an inch again ;)

Ya right :chuckle:

I feal better now , I was closer than since the score changed. Looks like Bone was righ ton with the Width.