Post by: huntandjeep on December 19, 2016, 05:43:51 PM
Selling my current .223 AR and building another but thinking of going .204 this time if it will work with my can . Otherwise will build another .223
Post by: Special T on December 19, 2016, 05:59:30 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 19, 2016, 06:10:08 PM
Bet it works pretty good.Kinda what I'm hoping. Never been around a 204 so not sure how loud they are unsuppressed .
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 19, 2016, 06:26:31 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 19, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Your existing .223 can will work with a .204 As to the noise issue, in bolt rifles I've thought the noise level was very similar un-suppressed. I love shooting suppressed rifles, that should be a good setup if you build your 204AR.Good to hear :tup:. Still up in the air on a 204 build . Never even consider one just thought it would be different. If my 10 minutes of research is right the 223 has more choices of bullet weight but the 204 is faster . 204 has the flatness advantage past 400yrds ( but I have a 22/250 and 220 swift for that )
Post by: b23 on December 19, 2016, 10:16:40 PM
I thought about getting a 204 barrel for my AR but I really like the little CZ 527's and they flat shoot right out of the box and for just a little more than what a good quality barrel cost, I can have a CZ 527 Varmint in 204. If you're not 100% set on doing a 204 in an AR, maybe take a look at the CZ 527 Varmint model, they're a sweet little bolt gun and they always seems to shoot extremely well.
Post by: Blacklab on December 20, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
Post by: LEN on December 21, 2016, 10:29:07 AM
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Post by: b23 on December 21, 2016, 11:36:30 AM
If you are reloading, might look at Tac20. 223 brass almost free.
Or a 20 Practical, which is just a straight neck down of 223 brass to .20cal with no fireforming involved. I really like the idea of a 20 Practical or 20 Tactical because you can use Lapua 223 brass which nearly lasts forever and if I wasn't so cheap I'd have one of my 223's rebarreled to 20 Practical but I really want another CZ 527 just need to figure out how I can slip it by "The Warden" without her noticing. :chuckle:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 21, 2016, 11:44:52 AM
If you are reloading, might look at Tac20. 223 brass almost free.
Or a 20 Practical, which is just a straight neck down of 223 brass to .20cal with no fireforming involved. I really like the idea of a 20 Practical or 20 Tactical because you can use Lapua 223 brass which nearly lasts forever and if I wasn't so cheap I'd have one of my 223's rebarreled to 20 Practical but I really want another CZ 527 just need to figure out how I can slip it by "The Warden" without her noticing. :chuckle:
CZ is slowly adding calibers to the 527 model. They just announced a 6.5 Grendel and I heard .300 Blackout is a possibility. Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.
Post by: b23 on December 21, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.
I'd imagine it's a pretty straight forward process, as long as you have a lathe that can cut metric threads.
James Calhoon is kind of a CZ 527 specialist and he told me, how they come right from the factory is pretty darn good and typically doesn't have to do much to them at all.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 21, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
Re-barreling the 527 is pretty easy too.
I'd imagine it's a pretty straight forward process, as long as you have a lathe that can cut metric threads.
James Calhoon is kind of a CZ 527 specialist and he told me, how they come right from the factory is pretty darn good and typically doesn't have to do much to them at all.
Here is a wrench we designed and we used Black Hole to do the pre fit barrels. It took me less than an hour to do the re-barrel and a couple more to adjust the inletting.
We did a standard shank replacement and prototyped a Savage style nut.
Sorry for the hijack :)
Post by: b23 on December 21, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
I appreciate their function and they definitely serve their purpose and have their place, it's just that place won't ever be on any of my guns. lol
Post by: jay.sharkbait on December 21, 2016, 04:33:22 PM
You had me right up until you said barrel nut. :yike:
I appreciate their function and they definitely serve their purpose and have their place, it's just that place won't ever be on any of my guns. lol
There was only one we did with the nut. It worked fine but I though it wasn't worth the weight penalty and having to face the reciever. All the others indexed like the factory barrel.
Post by: huntandjeep on December 21, 2016, 07:17:11 PM
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: JJB11B on December 21, 2016, 07:39:16 PM
You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have no Idea what its worth though oops
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: huntandjeep on December 21, 2016, 07:47:42 PM
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: JJB11B on December 21, 2016, 07:50:13 PM
I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: huntandjeep on December 21, 2016, 07:56:08 PM
I will keep you posted .I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: JJB11B on January 25, 2017, 04:01:10 PM
still got that barrel? :chuckle:I will keep you posted .I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
Post by: Jburke on January 25, 2017, 08:17:19 PM
It looks like this thread may be a little older, but yes you are correct in thinking you would only need a low profile gas block to extend your rail.Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Post by: huntandjeep on January 25, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
Yes I still have . PM sentstill got that barrel? :chuckle:I will keep you posted .I think you need a whole new barrel and gas block.....mail me your old one and Ill dispose of it for you ;)You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle:
Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?
Post by: huntandjeep on January 25, 2017, 09:06:21 PM
That's what I did . Picked up an adjustable Seekins lo pro block and 12" Seekins rail. Debating on going to a mid length gas system though.It looks like this thread may be a little older, but yes you are correct in thinking you would only need a low profile gas block to extend your rail.Honestly I have no clue if I need to sell/ change the barrel or not. What I want to do is change out the 7" rail for a 13" rail , but the gas block on the rifle now has a picattinney rail on top of it that's flush with the handguard rail. Am I right in thinking I just need to order a lo-profile gas block ?You guys hi-jack away :tup:. Anyone ever part out an AR ? Now I might just sell off the stuff I don't want ( everything except upper/lower receivers) and buy different. Not sure how to price the old stuff. What's your thoughts ?I'd be interested in the barrel for the right price...I have know Idea what its worth though
Troy FF rail , DPMS barrel , 6 position stock ( everythings been used for 10 shots )
B23 I was just researching the 20 Practical :chuckle: