Post by: bulldogs40 on December 26, 2016, 09:08:42 PM
Post by: Henrydog on December 27, 2016, 07:32:19 AM
I shoot ATA trap and they a pretty poor reputation for reliability, and you never see one on a trap field. A CZ is $850, a Browning Citori CX is 1499. Spend the extra $400-600 and get a Japanese made Browning.
IMO the only thing Turkey does well is provide the Turkish blend for Camel Cigarettes.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 27, 2016, 09:12:49 AM
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Post by: GrampasGuns on December 27, 2016, 09:40:45 AM
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Post by: Bill W on December 27, 2016, 10:23:21 AM
The guys I've know that had them, mostly CZ's, were usually at or near the line that divides satisfied and unsatisfied; none were raving about the shotguns, nor going on half hour rants. They seemed to have small problems that popped up from time to time, but customer service and price were good. It was stuff like a small part would break and they were down to one barrel. There were other brands out there too, that weren't mainstream and had nice finish and wood-but still had a few small issues but easily dealt with by a smith back in the US. Back before the gov got weird about guns you could bring all kinds of stuff back from a deployment overseas, and for Turkey more than a few were bringing back fancy looking SxSs.
For a upload hunt or two a year it will be fine. My kid has a Weatherby pump, a 870 clone made in Turkey ....looks nice, but now that it has 500 down the tube it won't feed half the time.
I shoot ATA trap and they a pretty poor reputation for reliability, and you never see one on a trap field. A CZ is $850, a Browning Citori CX is 1499. Spend the extra $400-600 and get a Japanese made Browning.
IMO the only thing Turkey does well is provide the Turkish blend for Camel Cigarettes.
I'm somewhere between both these guys. I have 4 Huglus (aka turkish shotguns). I have had issues with three of them, and with the exception of one issue, all were easily fixed. The CZ Upland Ultralight had weak firing springs and after two trips back to the warranty center, fixed. Nothing out of pocket on my side as the warranty picked up postage on both sides of shipping. A CZ Bobwhite had an issue with piercing Winchester primers. Fix was to switch to Remington or Federal primers for reloads. Winchester primers have very thin skins. The third, a DeHaan o/u had a unique problem that didn't occur until this last hunting season. It couldn't handle the recoil of Kent Fasteel 3 inchers and turned itself into a single shot. The part needed for replacement was no longer available and after two trips back to the gunsmith, got retired from heavy duck loads. It didn't have any issues with other loads.
It is aggravating to have a new gun back at the warranty center but CZ does have a super fast turnaround. Once the springs are ID'd as a problem and replaced there are no more issues. The question as the one guy raised is which is worth more $$? A cheaper price but the potential of weak firing pin springs and the needed no cost trip back to the factory, or the higher price of a Browning Citori.
I also have a used Browning Maxus that was purchased mid-duck season and has minimal issues with the heavy Fasteel.
Post by: Bwana Bob on December 29, 2016, 11:21:56 AM
Post by: Bill W on December 29, 2016, 11:25:19 AM
Bill still have that citori I sold you? My AyA 20 ga sxs had no problems for may years and rounds. took it to the skeet range this summer and found the left barrel mainspring had broke and that's on an $1,800 gun. It can happen to any gun Need to buy snap caps to relieve the firing spring tension.
I still hunt with the 20 gauge lightning. Had it out both last year and this year. It's my early season pheasant gun.
Post by: AWS on December 31, 2016, 10:12:39 AM
Post by: KFhunter on December 31, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
I've had my paws on one that was custom made from Turkey and imported through ATF and let me tell you it's sweet. I couldn't miss and it's so fast.
best handling clay buster I've ever shot but I'm not sure it's even available in the US, it was a high end custom build and cost a fair chunk of change in Turkey.
I don't know the details or make of the gun other than it's a super sweet rig brought over from Turkey and I was fortunate to bust a few clays with it.
Post by: yorketransport on December 31, 2016, 10:26:37 AM
Post by: Bill W on December 31, 2016, 12:47:52 PM
I have had a little CZ Bobwhite for about 6 years now and keep it in the truck when I travel to shoot skeet and SC when I'm on the road it has been very reliable. I even used it for a couple of years hunting ducks and again it performed as needed. When looking at sxs's and O/U's I try to stick with double trigger guns as that is usually the first thing to cause a problem. I've owned shotguns made in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Spain, Italy, France, Belgium, Germany, Sweden and the good old USA and all have proven to work just fine for me, maybe I've been blessed.
A 12 gauge Bobwhite is the one I have that pierces some reloads with Winchester primers. I was up at Kesselrings around 2010 and handled the Bobwhites in 12 and 20 gauges. They are a nice looking gun. I couldn't decide which to get and ended up with a double double gun purchase that day. I'd really like to find a bunch of local quail as I think going retro hunting with a double trigger 20 gauge would be an experience.
Post by: AWS on December 31, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
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Post by: T-Bone on January 03, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
Turkish guns suffer a bit of snob prejudice and some mechanical failure on the first early imports; now rectified in the newer models. Also, the lower price point guns (like USA lower price point guns) can have problems. Stick with CZ (GREAT customer service) or a recognized name importer and you will be fine.