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Title: OK nice problem
Post by: Bofire on December 29, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
suppose you were told you needed to buy a long gun in the next few days. Your choice what, just a long gun. I have lots of guns. Today I started thinking this, and it is real, I NEED to buy a gun. do not want to spend a ton

I like Ruger American- 223, 17HMR?
  Winchester Model 37 20/12 gauge
  some AR,( I have free floated, scope AR now)
  nice older .22 rifle
  ideas???
Carl

 
 
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: huntnphool on December 29, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
FWIW, I love shooting my Savage 93R17 Laminate Thumbhole rifle, fun little gun.
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 29, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
Ruger #1.
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Post by: 2labs on December 29, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
Gotta go .204 :twocents:
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Post by: pashok23 on December 29, 2016, 09:30:53 PM
I have Ruger American in .223 i love it alot
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 29, 2016, 09:42:13 PM
Marlin 1895 in .45-70.  Wish I had never gotten rid of mine!!!
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Post by: quarterstaff on December 30, 2016, 12:14:04 AM
There's a sweet 1903 classic sporter I am just drooling over
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Post by: Timberstalker on December 30, 2016, 05:20:37 AM
17 WSM. Because they look interesting and I don't know anyone that has one.
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Post by: RadSav on December 30, 2016, 05:33:17 AM
FWIW, I love shooting my Savage 93R17 Laminate Thumbhole rifle, fun little gun.

Got that gun in 22WRM and it's one bad arse little gun!  But I hope they fired the idiot that designed that magazine...what the heck was that moron thinking?  Guess maybe he wasn't and that's the problem.

Great shooter and worth the money, though.
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: b23 on December 30, 2016, 08:51:26 AM
CZ 527 Varmint in 17 Hornet.  If you're looking for a smallish rifle that handles like a rimfire and is nearly as quiet as one but with a lot more pop on the other end, these little CZ 527's in 17 Hornet are a sweetheart to shoot.  The CZ's 527's are extremely accurate, have an outstanding trigger and just an all around great quality little gun.  I prefer the Varmint model over the American and it only weighs slightly more.

A CZ 527 in 204 wouldn't be a bad choice either.  :tup:
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: thinkingman on December 30, 2016, 11:56:11 AM
Nice older 22lr.
Think Kimber or Win mod 52 from CMP.
Used Anschutz.
Something with character, not black plastic and phosphate.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on December 30, 2016, 12:15:09 PM
I've always wanted either a .17 or a .22-250. If you don't have an AR, you should get an AR. What's your budget?
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Post by: Bill W on December 30, 2016, 12:28:46 PM
I'd go for a used Browning semi-auto .22lr.
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 30, 2016, 12:35:26 PM
There's a sweet 1903 classic sporter I am just drooling over

There's a sweet manlicher-stocked 6.5x55mm I have been drooling over, and an Encore in 460 SW, and . . . .
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: JDHasty on December 30, 2016, 12:44:39 PM
CZ 527 Varmint in 17 Hornet.  If you're looking for a smallish rifle that handles like a rimfire and is nearly as quiet as one but with a lot more pop on the other end, these little CZ 527's in 17 Hornet are a sweetheart to shoot.  The CZ's 527's are extremely accurate, have an outstanding trigger and just an all around great quality little gun.  I prefer the Varmint model over the American and it only weighs slightly more.

A CZ 527 in 204 wouldn't be a bad choice either.  :tup:

Ya' beat me to it.  I could go w/either 22 Hornet or 17 Hornet.  Both mine are American's, for the same reason I kinda' wish I had gone w/the Varmint in the 17 though.  There are 527 Varmints out there right now in 17 Remington and that might interest me too though.  I have a Sako action Ultra Wildcat in 17 Remington and have thought about the CZ until there were none the last time they were available. 

I am getting right at 3,250 w/40 Vmax out of the 22 Hornet and that is what makes it a toss up.  The 17 shoots flatter, but the 22 seems to hit a bit harder
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: M_ray on December 30, 2016, 12:52:34 PM
Answering the question for me I'd be leaning to the Savage .17Hmr or .204 only cause I already have 3 .22's and a couple .223's
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Post by: Dead-Eye on December 30, 2016, 01:01:09 PM
For years I tried to find a Stainless Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in 45/70, or even better, the Stainless XLR in 45/70, but they're really hard to find, or at least they were when I was looking. Occasionally I saw one for sale, usually for about $1400. Anything cheaper and it would be gone before I could reach my wallet in my back pocket.   After about 4 years of looking I threw in the towel when I found a good deal on a blued version of the 45/70 Guide Gun. What a beauty, I really love it. Of course, you can guess this part; recently I've seen the stainless Guide Guns and XLRs in 45/70 for sale for much less, now that Marlin is back to producing them in full force. 

I still drool over those Stainless models! Someday, maybe! ***SIGH***

I spent a while torn between the .17 and the .22 WMR.  The reviews were all close, but the .22 Mag won out with slightly better performance, so I went with a Savage .22 WMR. There doesn't seem to be much difference at the range. Both are tack-drivers. The biggest difference is that the .17 ammo is almost always available, and I have to constantly search for the .22 Mag ammo.  Good thing I bought extra boxes each time I shopped a few years back.
I would have figured the squeeze would be over by now, but the shelves are still empty.
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: KFhunter on December 30, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
17 WSM. Because they look interesting and I don't know anyone that has one.

@CAMPMEAT


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Post by: quarterstaff on December 30, 2016, 05:32:40 PM
There's a sweet 1903 classic sporter I am just drooling over

There's a sweet manlicher-stocked 6.5x55mm I have been drooling over, and an Encore in 460 SW, and . . . .
I have always wanted a Mannlicher stocked rifle but can never talk myself into one when I run across one :dunno: as far as 6.5X55 I bought one out of Fox's shop when it was in Poulsbo, it had a chopped stock, a brand spanking new barrel original contour(stepped) and no sights. I shot it at 100 yds just sighting over the receiver and got on paper and a 2 1/2-3" group  and to this day I cannot figure out why I got rid of the darn thing except 6.5x55 just wasn't common then as it is now. dang it now I want one!!!!!!!!!! :drool:
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 30, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
Well, I suppose I shouldn't post pictures of my 1895 GS or post the link of the 6.5 Swedish I've been lusting after.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,198022.msg2629774.html#msg2629774

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6200052/everett-washington-rifles-for-sale--1907-carl-gustafs-m94-carbine-6-5-swedish-mauser
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: b23 on December 30, 2016, 06:44:46 PM
17 WSM. Because they look interesting and I don't know anyone that has one.

I have one that I've had a far amount of work done to and it shoots real well.  Definitely has more pop than the 17 HMR, especially when you start getting out past 150 yards.  For high volume sage rat shooting my 17 WSM is cheaper to shoot than my 17 Hornet and I don't have to worry about saving the brass but my CZ 527 is a much nicer gun and if I could only pick one, I'd take my 17 Hornet over my 17 WSM.
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Post by: Alchase on December 30, 2016, 07:14:22 PM
Sako TRG M10 in 338 Lapua.

http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-trg/trg-m10
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: quarterstaff on December 31, 2016, 09:06:53 AM
Well, I suppose I shouldn't post pictures of my 1895 GS or post the link of the 6.5 Swedish I've been lusting after.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,198022.msg2629774.html#msg2629774

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6200052/everett-washington-rifles-for-sale--1907-carl-gustafs-m94-carbine-6-5-swedish-mauser

 :drool: :'( :tup: Really, just couldn't stick it in, you had to twist it. beautiful rifle there. unluckily for me my 1903 is going out for some work today.
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: quarterstaff on December 31, 2016, 09:12:05 AM
Marlin 1895 in .45-70.  Wish I had never gotten rid of mine!!!
I saw a marlin in 444 in a pawn shop in bremerton yesterday. I believe they wanted less than $800 I don't know if thats good or bad
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: Timberstalker on December 31, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
17 WSM. Because they look interesting and I don't know anyone that has one.

I have one that I've had a far amount of work done to and it shoots real well.  Definitely has more pop than the 17 HMR, especially when you start getting out past 150 yards.  For high volume sage rat shooting my 17 WSM is cheaper to shoot than my 17 Hornet and I don't have to worry about saving the brass but my CZ 527 is a much nicer gun and if I could only pick one, I'd take my 17 Hornet over my 17 WSM.
:tup:
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Post by: boneaddict on December 31, 2016, 10:11:12 AM
Both ends of the spectrum for me.  Id really like a 50cal but would settle for a 17WSM
Title: Re: OK nice problem
Post by: JDHasty on December 31, 2016, 11:51:39 PM
Both ends of the spectrum for me.  Id really like a 50cal but would settle for a 17WSM

I don't know.  If picking up brass is a consideration, then yes.  But if you want a performer then the CZ 527 in 17 Hornet wins out over the 17 WSM... going away. 

We shot with a doctor last year who had a WSM and it was everything my Anshutz 64 Sporter in 22 mag has going on, and maybe a little more.  BUT, it was not even in the same league with our 17 Hornets. 

I suffered the 22 Hornet dilemma all the while that Bruno's had to come in through Canada and I didn't bite.  Nothing else was "guaranteed" to be accurate w/o a lot of tinkering. 

I am not a tinkerer, I am a varmint shooter, and I begged off, but once the restrictions were lifted I bought a CZ 22 Hornet and, and, and we were coming back from a Montana PD shoot and my partner asked:  So what about this trip really impressed you?  The CZ Hornet was my answer and he was in total agreement. 

So since then, since my six-year old daughter wanted a rock chuck gun I tore down my contender and put her child's carbine stock on it as soon as the MGM 17 Hornet barrel arrived from EBCO. 

Holy mashugana this thing is pretty extra special and an order was put in to Boyds for a man size butt stock so that I could really wring it out and also because without a hunting license Bridget could not use it last year anyway.  She was then seven, but needed Hunter Ed. 

Let's cut the crap.  I am a bolt gun shooter who has a love for lever actions and a single shot break action rifle would never come in view on my radar screen.  But with Bridget as right handed but with left master eye...  I own a Contender and all is good, so that is the direction I went instead of buying a CZ for her and cutting the stock down.

But that 17 Hornet is so much of what I have lusted after that I ordered a Boyds man size stock and I left the man size stock on and shot it all last season.

As I said we shot next to a guy with a 17 WSM and he takes it to Montana, because he doesn't have to pick up brass.   That doesn't factor in for me because when I wander around a PD town with my CZ in 22 Hornet I never have the magazine  in it anyway.  I have a Calhoon single shot adapter in it and put the empties into my left BDU jacket pocket.  I have 200 loaded rounds in my right pocket and I just put the empty in my left before reloading. 

The BIG consideration for me in loking at 22 Hornet was:  Can I carry 200 loaded rounds around a PD town in my pocket.  With 204 0r 223 that is a definite no.  With 22 Hornet the answer was yes.   

With the 17 Hornet the answer is also yes and I really never shoot more than a few big game cartridges per year so my 300 Wby is all I have ever wanted for that, but I loves me some varmint shooting and I always have always wanted another "something different."  Now that I have a CZ 527 in 17 Hornet, and have seen that it has filled in everything from 22 LR range to 204, 22-250 or 243 range.

I am saying:  If you don't have one....  You do the math.  17 WSM is going to get you half way there even if you have a 22 mag, but a 17 Hornet is going to make it so that if you are into shooting varmints with a long range center fire rifle and a 22 LR or even a 22 mag or 17 HMR  one rifle in 17 Hornet is going to take you all the way out there. 

I am sorry, but the 17 WSM just doesn't get you "there."   The 17 Hornet is an honest 100 to 300 yard cartridge and the 17 WSM just is not.  It still leaves you with a gap between the varmints you shoot at with your walking varmint rifle and what you set up benches to shoot.   

In the past a 275 yard shot with my walking varmint rifle was a "hail Mary" shot.  Today it is a sporting shot with a 95% chance I am GTG.  A 275 yard shot when set up on benches with the big guns was "just a chip shot." 

   
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