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Title: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 02, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
Went out in the snow to chase birds today. I bought a new Smith and Wesson 20 ga SxS a couple days ago, managed to knock down a rooster with it
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: GoBeavs85 on January 02, 2017, 11:02:26 PM
Nice! We're the birds holding well in the snow? I always thought they held tight in deep snow but last time out they were flushing wild 70-100 yards out.


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Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: Ruger on January 03, 2017, 01:01:29 PM
Depends on snow usually, if its a fresh soft snow they they hold good...but if it is crunchy what so ever then they are gone...
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: Henrydog on January 03, 2017, 01:20:34 PM
Nice work!  The snow has been kicking my and the dogs butt.  Getting old sucks.  How do you like that pack...I have read good things but never talked to anyone who actually owns one.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 03, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Nice work!  The snow has been kicking my and the dogs butt.  Getting old sucks.  How do you like that pack...I have read good things but never talked to anyone who actually owns one.

The tenzing is great vest, it's a little hard to get a pheasant in there with one hand though. Smaller birds drop right in.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 03, 2017, 03:54:51 PM
Nice! We're the birds holding well in the snow? I always thought they held tight in deep snow but last time out they were flushing wild 70-100 yards out.


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Birds were holding pretty tight, they were all in deep thick cover though. Quail were flushing through the trees, could hardly get a shot on them. I'd agree with Ruger, fresh powder is good, crunchy snow they'll flush 100 yards out. I've had good luck on quail singles even in crunchy snow, but not whole coveys
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 03, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
Nice.  More gun pics/info?
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 03, 2017, 04:54:33 PM
Nice.  More gun pics/info?

S&W Elite Gold Class I 20ga 28" barrels, fixed chokes (I/C, M) single trigger, case hardened steel. Don't have more pics, I've only had it 4 days. I believe it was discontinued, but is similar if not the exact same gun as the Dickinson Estate and Webley & Scott model 2000.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: Mark251 on January 03, 2017, 07:17:52 PM
Nice!  Congratulations  :tup:
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: merkelman on January 03, 2017, 07:28:03 PM
Nice.  More gun pics/info?

S&W Elite Gold Class I 20ga 28" barrels, fixed chokes (I/C, M) single trigger, case hardened steel. Don't have more pics, I've only had it 4 days. I believe it was discontinued, but is similar if not the exact same gun as the Dickinson Estate and Webley & Scott model 2000.
Made by UTAS in Turkey...quality has come a long way since the Huglu inception many years ago.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 03, 2017, 07:34:07 PM
Good job !!  Beautiful !!  Those roosters are !!
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: michaelcx38 on January 03, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
Awesome, great way to crack in the new gun. Looks like you've had a great season so far!
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: Bwana Bob on January 04, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Have a real nice AyA double in 20ga that looks like yours. But real doubles always have Two Triggers.
I also have a nice 1930's checz made 16ga and English/Midland 12ga that I hunt with.
I hunted the yak res a few weeks back during that cold snap but didn't do as well as you on finding quail. I haven't hunted it in a long time, guess I need to relearn it. Nice SxS.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 04, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
But real doubles always have Two Triggers.

And an English stock too, right? Strike two! This one has a half pistol grip. I've shot a few double trigger sxs's, I prefer a single trigger. Maybe one day I'll break my limit of $2k for a shotgun and get a true double... but I doubt it.

Awesome, great way to crack in the new gun. Looks like you've had a great season so far!

It's been a good one. Finally had some success with chukar, even shot a double on them my second trip out.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: merkelman on January 04, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
German on the left and Spanish Ugi on the right. Very well made Spanish guns with English configurations can be acquired for under 2k easily.  Single trigger guns definitely a bit faster, IMHO.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 05, 2017, 04:27:18 PM
German on the left and Spanish Ugi on the right. Very well made Spanish guns with English configurations can be acquired for under 2k easily.  Single trigger guns definitely a bit faster, IMHO.

I think my next shotgun will have to be a 16ga to round off the collection. I have all the other gauges, excluding oddballs. I was thinking LC Smith, but maybe I should do my research and see if I can find a less popular make for less that I wouldn't be afraid to take in the field. I gave myself the $2k limit because if I spend anymore than that I probably won't hunt with it, and then what's the point?
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: joe_dumy on January 05, 2017, 07:28:48 PM
Auctions are the way to go especially with a 2k budget. And 16ga has its fans and not so some will go high and some low. You just have to be patient and a GREAT deal will pop up. A gun worth 4 times its cost and something you will carry since you paid a low cost. I have worn offor the coin finish and some of the checkering  and got some rust spots on a 7k gun I paid 1k for and I love it. I don't think I would love it so much in the safe in mint condition. Can't wait to see it 20 years from now and all the honest wear.
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: T-Bone on January 06, 2017, 07:24:19 AM
German on the left and Spanish Ugi on the right. Very well made Spanish guns with English configurations can be acquired for under 2k easily.  Single trigger guns definitely a bit faster, IMHO.

I think my next shotgun will have to be a 16ga to round off the collection. I have all the other gauges, excluding oddballs. I was thinking LC Smith, but maybe I should do my research and see if I can find a less popular make for less that I wouldn't be afraid to take in the field. I gave myself the $2k limit because if I spend anymore than that I probably won't hunt with it, and then what's the point?

A very nice 16 Ga. here (if still available):http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19671
Title: Re: First pheasant with my new 20ga
Post by: John B on January 06, 2017, 03:36:10 PM
That's a nice one T-Bone. I'm not in the market right now, just bought a new gun last week.
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